Choking

[Etoile]

I don't see breath play and choking as quite the same thing, actually. To me, choking is more violent than just denial of oxygen.

 

[Toshbia]

Dose not get pleasure from chokeing but i might from the other i dont like things tie on my neck for chokeing ..... but the other i might try if it done right.

 

[intothewoods]

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We've been doing more and more of this lately. Reading all of the responses, it's hard to know if I should be more freaked out or not. I haven't been gasping for air at any point. It just feels like pressure on my throat. I remember at the time I thought, okay, I can breathe, so this is okay. I'm going to read a few of the articles in the library, just to make sure the crucial artery isn't being pushed (as I understand it).

Having said that, I just love it. I mean, like nothing else I've experienced so far. First of all, my throat is an incredible erogenous zone for me. And it's just so rough and intense, and we can look into each other's eyes, and it really pushes my buttons. And the trust I have to have in him...

 

[SweetCherry]

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We've been doing more and more of this lately. Reading all of the responses, it's hard to know if I should be more freaked out or not. I haven't been gasping for air at any point. It just feels like pressure on my throat. I remember at the time I thought, okay, I can breathe, so this is okay. I'm going to read a few of the articles in the library, just to make sure the crucial artery isn't being pushed (as I understand it).

Having said that, I just love it. I mean, like nothing else I've experienced so far. First of all, my throat is an incredible erogenous zone for me. And it's just so rough and intense, and we can look into each other's eyes, and it really pushes my buttons. And the trust I have to have in him...

See, that's how it goes for me, too. I just love feeling her hand at my throat, squeezing enough to feel it, and make my air not come as easily as it does normally. It's about feeling her power over me and trusting that I'll be fine in her hands. There's a sensuality to it that goes beyond my ability to put it into words.

 

[Homburg]

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We've been doing more and more of this lately. Reading all of the responses, it's hard to know if I should be more freaked out or not. I haven't been gasping for air at any point. It just feels like pressure on my throat. I remember at the time I thought, okay, I can breathe, so this is okay. I'm going to read a few of the articles in the library, just to make sure the crucial artery isn't being pushed (as I understand it).

Well, I'm not a big fan of breathplay. And I ain't gonna squeeze the throat. Just like I'm not going to strike a bottom with a closed fist. For me, those are violent.

Jay Wiseman, pretty well-respected BDSM writer and educator, has some very interesting things to say on breathplay. I'm not a full-on safety maven like Jay, but there's some useful data in there.

Getting back to my initial comment, closed fists and squeezing the throat will not be in my repetoire because I associate them with violence. Not violence done to me. No, violence I've done to others. I was raised with the idea that there are two ways to walk into a fight. If your fist is closed, you want the fight as much as the other person, and you are just as wrong. You are there to hurt that person. If you walk into a fight with your hands open, you are trying to stop that fight. If the other fellow gets hurt, well, that's his fault. So closing my fist is me saying I am there to cause harm.

Choking the neck is the same. I did too much time in various martial arts that used chokeholds as a finishing move. Yes, I can choke someone out as safely as possible (which is not safe) and with minimal fuss. That does not mean I want to. I remember once accidentally choking out my good friend and sparring partner, Danny. Great guy, and a long-standing friend. I got the better of him without realising, and choked him straight into unconsciousness. I didn't realise it immediately, so did not release him like I was supposed to. Once I figured out that he was out, I let go, rolled him over and started to check his breathing, etc. It was almost a minute before he came too, and he did so by convulsing violently, and a couple of the other guys had to help me keep him from thrashing his way into injury. This is not someone that has epilepsy or any other medical issue. He convulsed because he was choked out hard.

I am NOT at all going to give others grief for breathplay. It's your brain. All I will say is that the number one cause of death during sexual play is erotic autoasphyxiation/strangulation. Number two or three is non-auto asphyxiation/strangulation (if I remember the numbers correctly). Take that as you will.

Again, I am NOT judging, or telling anyone what to do. Don't get sensitive. I am stating an opinion, and explaining why I have that opinion.

 

[Adakgirl]

everyone who is into the idea of breath play/being choked should read this article by jay wiseman about breath play.

i'll admit to being really turned on by the idea of being choked, but after reading his article, i will never do it, other than a light, hands on throat type of thing.NO pressure and no restriction of air.

mr wiseman used to be an EMT, and he knows what he's talking about. apparently any restriction of air at all causes the heart to act in funny ways because its not getting enough oxygen. the heart starts "throwing pvcs" which can make it go into an abnormal rythym and one can go into a heart attack, yes, from being choked. of course there is the damage of a stroke or that type of accident, but there is also the danger of the person suffering a cardiac arrest and dying. im big on edge play but this one is just way off limits to me and honestly i think it should be with anyone. its equilvalent to putting three bullets in a revlover, spinning the thingie (yes i said thingie), putting it to yr subs head, and pulling the trigger.


article: http://members.aol.com/Oldrope/breath.htm

Excellent info and ty for posting it here. Breath play is a hard limit for me. Choking is as well. I like Homberg, associate choking with violence. There are plenty of ways to experience mind blowing orgasms without risking someones life.

 

[BiBunny]

I LIKE violence--choking, closed fists, etc. And while I know it's not very safe, I also enjoy being choked by things other than hands...a towel tightened around my throat, for example.

 

[Homburg]

Excellent info and ty for posting it here. Breath play is a hard limit for me. Choking is as well. I like Homberg, associate choking with violence. There are plenty of ways to experience mind blowing orgasms without risking someones life.

D'oh! Totally missed that someone else posted that article. Well, hey, it really is a good one, and bears repeating. Jay may be a bit too anal about safety for some, but damned if it isn't good to read his perspective and thus get a good idea of all that you rick.

I was tempted to get one of the shirts comparing Jay's negotiation style to Phillip the Foole's. Phillip is really damned funny.

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I LIKE violence--choking, closed fists, etc. And while I know it's not very safe, I also enjoy being choked by things other than hands...a towel tightened around my throat, for example.

See, now I'm down with violence. We can put on some gloves and do some sparring. It'll be good fun and it'll get your aggressions out.

It was greeeat fun to realise years later that I liked the more physical sparring and combative martial arts clubs specifically because I liked to hit people. And that is one arena where I love getting hit too.

 

[intothewoods]

Well, I'm not a big fan of breathplay. And I ain't gonna squeeze the throat. Just like I'm not going to strike a bottom with a closed fist. For me, those are violent.

Jay Wiseman, pretty well-respected BDSM writer and educator, has some very interesting things to say on breathplay. I'm not a full-on safety maven like Jay, but there's some useful data in there.

Getting back to my initial comment, closed fists and squeezing the throat will not be in my repetoire because I associate them with violence. Not violence done to me. No, violence I've done to others. I was raised with the idea that there are two ways to walk into a fight. If your fist is closed, you want the fight as much as the other person, and you are just as wrong. You are there to hurt that person. If you walk into a fight with your hands open, you are trying to stop that fight. If the other fellow gets hurt, well, that's his fault. So closing my fist is me saying I am there to cause harm.

Choking the neck is the same. I did too much time in various martial arts that used chokeholds as a finishing move. Yes, I can choke someone out as safely as possible (which is not safe) and with minimal fuss. That does not mean I want to. I remember once accidentally choking out my good friend and sparring partner, Danny. Great guy, and a long-standing friend. I got the better of him without realising, and choked him straight into unconsciousness. I didn't realise it immediately, so did not release him like I was supposed to. Once I figured out that he was out, I let go, rolled him over and started to check his breathing, etc. It was almost a minute before he came too, and he did so by convulsing violently, and a couple of the other guys had to help me keep him from thrashing his way into injury. This is not someone that has epilepsy or any other medical issue. He convulsed because he was choked out hard.

I am NOT at all going to give others grief for breathplay. It's your brain. All I will say is that the number one cause of death during sexual play is erotic autoasphyxiation/strangulation. Number two or three is non-auto asphyxiation/strangulation (if I remember the numbers correctly). Take that as you will.

Again, I am NOT judging, or telling anyone what to do. Don't get sensitive. I am stating an opinion, and explaining why I have that opinion.

I'm edgier than Homburg. Sweet!

I read the article, but as I recall the jist of it was, don't do this. I guess my question is, if I can breathe the entire time, is it choking?

For me this isn't about having some mega-orgasm, btw. It's just an illustration of control.

ETA: My sense of the articles is that if it's not strangulation or restriction of air, it should be safe. The question is what is light pressure, and what is a risk?

 

[Homburg]

I'm edgier than Homburg. Sweet!

I read the article, but as I recall the jist of it was, don't do this. I guess my question is, if I can breathe the entire time, is it choking?

For me this isn't about having some mega-orgasm, btw. It's just an illustration of control.

ETA: My sense of the articles is that if it's not strangulation or restriction of air, it should be safe. The question is what is light pressure, and what is a risk?

The simplest and most effective chokehold I know is called a rear naked. You can breathe while in a rear naked, but you will be unconscious in seconds (I know, I've taken that trip to night-night land, and it is a short one). That said light pressure would need to be applied in exactly the wrong spot for it to cause problems. My issue there is whether or not the person applying it really has proper knowledge on where NOT to apply pressure. The neck is a serious piece of work, both sturdy and delicate, and it's kinda important. Y'know, just a bit.

Light pressure applied to certain blood vessels can restrict blood flow to the brain, though light pressure might only cause slight mental impairment. Light pressure across certain nerves in the neck can depress heart rate and ryhthm.

Light pressure varies per individual though. What might be nothing on me may wemm be heavy pressure for you. I've got a freaky thick neck. I'm not particularly concerned about such things on me. You? *shrug* Who knows.

Again, not saying don't do it. Just be real aware of what you chance, and how to avoid damage. Or just take you chances. Humans is fairly tough. You might wind up a statistic, but you prooobably won't. Some people are willing to take that chance.

That said, I take chances with my bottoms all the time. I'm not a safety nazi. I just avoid choke/strangle play because of all the stuff that can go wrong with it. And, well, violent connotations. And the fact that it is a freak-out trigger for viv. Etc, etc.

 

[Homburg]

I'm edgier than Homburg. Sweet!

*bink* Am I a paragon of edge or something?

Paragon of Edge. That would be a killer name for an industrial band.

 

[intothewoods]

The simplest and most effective chokehold I know is called a rear naked. You can breathe while in a rear naked, but you will be unconscious in seconds (I know, I've taken that trip to night-night land, and it is a short one). That said light pressure would need to be applied in exactly the wrong spot for it to cause problems. My issue there is whether or not the person applying it really has proper knowledge on where NOT to apply pressure. The neck is a serious piece of work, both sturdy and delicate, and it's kinda important. Y'know, just a bit.

Light pressure applied to certain blood vessels can restrict blood flow to the brain, though light pressure might only cause slight mental impairment. Light pressure across certain nerves in the neck can depress heart rate and ryhthm.

Light pressure varies per individual though. What might be nothing on me may wemm be heavy pressure for you. I've got a freaky thick neck. I'm not particularly concerned about such things on me. You? *shrug* Who knows.

Again, not saying don't do it. Just be real aware of what you chance, and how to avoid damage. Or just take you chances. Humans is fairly tough. You might wind up a statistic, but you prooobably won't. Some people are willing to take that chance.

That said, I take chances with my bottoms all the time. I'm not a safety nazi. I just avoid choke/strangle play because of all the stuff that can go wrong with it. And, well, violent connotations. And the fact that it is a freak-out trigger for viv. Etc, etc.

Great, it's one of the few things I really like. I'm not a spank me, spank me! girl.

I don't want to not be able to breathe. I like the roughness of it - I like his hands around my throat.

ETA: I mentioned these articles to Mister Man, and we're going to look through them more carefully before we do anything again. I think we both thought the whole issue was about cutting off oxygen, which we don't get anywhere near.

 

[Homburg]

Great, it's one of the few things I really like. I'm not a spank me, spank me! girl.

I don't want to not be able to breathe. I like the roughness of it - I like his hands around my throat.

ETA: I mentioned these articles to Mister Man, and we're going to look through them more carefully before we do anything again. I think we both thought the whole issue was about cutting off oxygen, which we don't get anywhere near.

If it is just hands around the throat it's probably not a big deal.

 

[ownedsubgal]

i remember this one.

since my earlier post on this topic, i've experienced a much higher level intensity in being choked. from convulsing and passing out to just feeling woozy. it's still a scary thing for me, especially when it's done by someone other than my Master. at least i know that HE loves me, and i figure that maybe that love could prevent him from going past the point of no return. but with others it's different, i know i'm just a piece of meat for them. but at the same time there is something very erotic and cozy feeling about that level of fear. tho i can't say i'd ever wish it to happen, there are certainly worse ways to go out.

 

[Homburg]

tho i can't say i'd ever wish it to happen, there are certainly worse ways to go out.

This is actually very true. Having been choked out while practicing and sparring, it is a very soft experience when done right. Clamp on a good choke, and about 8-12 seconds later the world fades away.

 

[Specula]

choking

This thread should be removed. It is uninformed, but above all it is outdated, full of little of any value.

 

[lowcollar]

I have really enjoyed both sides of light choking. Nothing too hard for me.

 

[secretSanna]

I love it. My ex was good at it. Once we were having sex and he pressed just the right way. I went out for a second. Hot. It's not as nice when there's pressure on the throat.

That being said you have to be very careful with this stuff and know what you're doing

 

[Boat1]

Has anybody here tried it before?

I will experience it soon, as my Domme Wife has mentioned interest in it and I replied with TOTAL acceptance and desire...
I have a choker on order, materials to make a different style, and have written Her of my deep desire for Her to use Her bare hands.

 

[subdudeme13]

I will experience it soon, as my Domme Wife has mentioned interest in it and I replied with TOTAL acceptance and desire...
I have a choker on order, materials to make a different style, and have written Her of my deep desire for Her to use Her bare hands.

Try this!
https://xhamster.com/videos/choke-fuck-15020590

 

[Boat1]

Try this!
https://xhamster.com/videos/choke-fuck-15020590

Chit! I can't open it... it seems my gubment wants to protect me from viewing it...

 

[subdudeme13]

Chit! I can't open it... it seems my gubment wants to protect me from viewing it...

You can open it when you get home!

 

[lowcollar]

I like being choked in a number of situations. ...when I am on my back being pegged is a favorite. Also, I like it a lot when she is riding cowgirl. She doesn't do it too long, but I love the feeling of being dominated in that way.

 

[colorfulnayyy]

I had a dom who would choke me while we made out…

 

[Astrotrain]

I would have a lot of reservations about this, it gives BDSM a bad name. Inflicting pain is one thing, but you can't fuck up a spanking so bad that you kill someone. The anti BDSM crowd have really latched onto this and I can't say I blame them:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...l/25/fatal-hateful-rise-of-choking-during-sex