Depression and Bipolar Support

[wally2450]

In the last month and a half I've been diagnosed with Severe Depression, Moderate Anxiety, Slight Motivational Issues, and a Rule Out for Bi-Polar/Hypo mania.

In the past week and a half my fiance'e of a little less than a year (but we'd dated for 2 and a half before I asked her to marry me) broke up with me.

In the last three days I've had to move some of my stuff out of our apartment and crash at a friends while she decides if she wants to try to work things out or not.

In five days, the friend's room that I am sleeping in will be back from his training a few states away and I won't have a bed to sleep on. It'll be the couch here, or the couch bed back at my apartment with a girl who probably won't want me around but can't kick me out cause I'm on the lease...

...my therapist said I can take 15 minutes a day to feel sorry for myself and mourn the loss of my relationship but she needs me to refocus after that.

-=Mhorashty=-

Best wishes to you.

 

[BlackWolf65]

There have been too many posts left here since my last visit for me to go back and quote every one of them. There *is* one that I want to respond to, but I want to do that in a seperate post...

To everyone who has posted and left a message describing what you're going through, I offer this, for what little bit that I know it might be worth...

It is not *always* going to be like this, if you look for help. That help can be in professional in nature, or it can be finding someone in your life whom you trust enough to talk to, in depth, about the scope and depth of what you're feeling. The things that all of us deal with are not easy to carry alone. We all know this, because we've all been there...

One of the reasons I started this thread was to hopefully give all of us a place to come when we feel as though there's nowhere to turn for understanding. And while this - an online, self-help group of people - is a poor substitute for have a real live person sitting with you and listening, there *are* some who really do have no place else to turn for support...

My PM box is always open to those who wish to utilize it. I think I can safely go out on a limb, and say that most of the other people who've posted here will say the same thing. If anyone here - anyone - needs an ear that will just listen, let you vent, cry, whatever, we need to turn to each other. *We* know better than most how this - depression, bipolar disorder, etc. - affects the lives of those who live with it...

Thank you all for helping to keep this thread alive, and to those who are suffering, please, get some help, professional or otherwise...

BW

 

[BlackWolf65]

In the last month and a half I've been diagnosed with Severe Depression, Moderate Anxiety, Slight Motivational Issues, and a Rule Out for Bi-Polar/Hypo mania.

In the past week and a half my fiance'e of a little less than a year (but we'd dated for 2 and a half before I asked her to marry me) broke up with me.

In the last three days I've had to move some of my stuff out of our apartment and crash at a friends while she decides if she wants to try to work things out or not.

In five days, the friend's room that I am sleeping in will be back from his training a few states away and I won't have a bed to sleep on. It'll be the couch here, or the couch bed back at my apartment with a girl who probably won't want me around but can't kick me out cause I'm on the lease...

...my therapist said I can take 15 minutes a day to feel sorry for myself and mourn the loss of my relationship but she needs me to refocus after that.

-=Mhorashty=-

Mhorashty, I'm glad that you're seeing a therapist. However, I have a slight issue with her:

...my therapist said I can take 15 minutes a day to feel sorry for myself and mourn the loss of my relationship but she needs me to refocus after that.

If this therapist is stating that feeling sorry for yourself and mourning the loss of your relationship are one and the same thing, then in my humble opinion, she got her license from the back of a box of Lucky Charms. Self-pity is not - *NOT* - the same thing as the grieving process that one goes through when they experience a loss like this. Self-pity is all about poor me, and yes, it's frustrating, and it can interfere with important issues that need to be dealt with. But it is not the same thing as mourning such a deep and difficult loss...

I want to offer you a link that someone gave to me recently. This is a good web site, and I'd encourage you to take some time to read through it. Perhaps it can be of some help:

LINK

Good luck to you, and if you ever need to talk, you can find me via PM...

BW

 

[koalabear]

Just remember a therapist is like a golf pro....they can teach you to play the game their way.......

 

[gypziedoll]

Just remember a therapist is like a golf pro....they can teach you to play the game their way.......

and they always have new techniques......afternoon KV...*bows*

 

[Guest]

with. But it is not the same thing as mourning such a deep and difficult loss...

I want to offer you a link that someone gave to me recently. This is a good web site, and I'd encourage you to take some time to read through it. Perhaps it can be of some help:

LINK


BW

Great link BW, I have skimmed it and added it to my faves to read properly later.

I wrote myself a list/mantra of values/statements/reminders whatever you want to call them and stuck a copy up on the fridge and at work. I shall copy it here later.

 

[Morrigu]

and they always have new techniques......afternoon KV...*bows*

Therapists have different techniques, not suitable for everybody.......being faced with the one who refuses to speak first when you are hidden inside yourself is not always constructive. This is not a fault, just that some approaches work better for some people than others.

Sorry to blunder on to the thread, but I just had to say.......

 

[koalabear]

and they always have new techniques......afternoon KV...*bows*

a good joint works better than any mood pill......Howdy QV....*bows*

 

[gypziedoll]

Therapists have different techniques, not suitable for everybody.......being faced with the one who refuses to speak first when you are hidden inside yourself is not always constructive. This is not a fault, just that some approaches work better for some people than others.

Sorry to blunder on to the thread, but I just had to say.......

Oh I understand....and take no offense....I have had several therapists...that just didn't have the right techniques for me....its sad to say but the majority of them rathered sedate me and not look for the root of my problem...than take the time with me.

I am happy that my new Dr. so far seems to be genuinely concerned for my well being and is compassionate enough to try different venues in ways to help me.

 

[gypziedoll]

a good joint works better than any mood pill......Howdy QV....*bows*

Sometimes I will agree with you KV...too bad self medication is not legal....(nice stripes KV)

 

[koalabear]

Sometimes I will agree with you KV...too bad self medication is not legal....(nice stripes KV)

no money for the edamites in self medication....better to get everyone to think they are much better off buying the legal pharms. When in fact nothing has been cured....you're just hooked on drugs. depression is a normal body function..not abnormal as they would have you believe......overcoming it by getting hooked on drugs is not the answer.

 

[gypziedoll]

no money for the edamites in self medication....better to get everyone to think they are much better off buying the legal pharms. When in fact nothing has been cured....you're just hooked on drugs. depression is a normal body function..not abnormal as they would have you believe......overcoming it by getting hooked on drugs is not the answer.

True depression is a normal body function....but sometimes it goes way beyond what is deemed normal

 

[koalabear]

True depression is a normal body function....but sometimes it goes way beyond what is deemed normal

define normal, everyone is different.....your brain can can handle anything in it's own time if you let it. Pills are no better than drugs or booze.....just legal. The root cause remains..you just don't give a fuck on drugs.

 

[gypziedoll]

define normal, everyone is different.....your brain can can handle anything in it's own time if you let it. Pills are no better than drugs or booze.....just legal. The root cause remains..you just don't give a fuck on drugs.

well whether i am on the drugs or not I give a fuck....and have learned the hard way that most times I need the added help of the drugs.....and I know everyones normal is different.....just like everyones definition of kinky is different.

 

[koalabear]

well whether i am on the drugs or not I give a fuck....and have learned the hard way that most times I need the added help of the drugs.....and I know everyones normal is different.....just like everyones definition of kinky is different.

and you should know QV.......hehehehe.........meditation and yoga work better than any drug....

 

[gypziedoll]

and you should know QV.......hehehehe.........meditation and yoga work better than any drug....

that I do....but what happened here was my meditation wasn't working anymore by itself KV....I still use that and my natural remedies....by the chemicals in my brain needed a lil jump start

 

[koalabear]

that I do....but what happened here was my meditation wasn't working anymore by itself KV....I still use that and my natural remedies....by the chemicals in my brain needed a lil jump start

I use that excuse for a joint too.......hehehehe........


I am the light, I am the way!!!!.....*oops that's for my tent meetings*.....

 

[gypziedoll]

I use that excuse for a joint too.......hehehehe........


I am the light, I am the way!!!!.....*oops that's for my tent meetings*.....

*giggles* since when you hold tent meetings honey?.....and can I join?

 

[koalabear]

*giggles* since when you hold tent meetings honey?.....and can I join?

I've been a nude Evangelist for years.....hehehe

 

[gypziedoll]

I've been a nude Evangelist for years.....hehehe

hahaha...now see if Jimmy Swaggert had thought of that he would have had a bigger congregation.....

 

[BlackWolf65]

no money for the edamites in self medication....better to get everyone to think they are much better off buying the legal pharms. When in fact nothing has been cured....you're just hooked on drugs. depression is a normal body function..not abnormal as they would have you believe......overcoming it by getting hooked on drugs is not the answer.

I agree with this, but only in a very limited way...

What about the people like me - bipolar - who depend on drugs to *restore*, to some extent, the normal chemical process in our brain? I don't view the fact that I take 2,000 mg of Depakote, 900 mg of lithium carbonate, and anywhere from 50 to 300 mg of Seroquel as being dependent on drugs to be in a good mood. I view as essential to my survival, because I've seen what happens to unmedicated manic-depressives...

 

[gypziedoll]

I agree with this, but only in a very limited way...

What about the people like me - bipolar - who depend on drugs to *restore*, to some extent, the normal chemical process in our brain? I don't view the fact that I take 2,000 mg of Depakote, 900 mg of lithium carbonate, and anywhere from 50 to 300 mg of Seroquel as being dependent on drugs to be in a good mood. I view as essential to my survival, because I've seen what happens to unmedicated manic-depressives...

unmedicated manic depressives spell trouble...I know it did in my case....sent me right over the edge....

 

[koalabear]

I agree with this, but only in a very limited way...

What about the people like me - bipolar - who depend on drugs to *restore*, to some extent, the normal chemical process in our brain? I don't view the fact that I take 2,000 mg of Depakote, 900 mg of lithium carbonate, and anywhere from 50 to 300 mg of Seroquel as being dependent on drugs to be in a good mood. I view as essential to my survival, because I've seen what happens to unmedicated manic-depressives...

to make up for a chemical imbalance is far different. I'm not saying they are useless.......just way over prescribed.

 

[BlackWolf65]

to make up for a chemical imbalance is far different. I'm not saying they are useless.......just way over prescribed.

I wasn't really taking issue with your post... There are a lot of drugs that are over prescribed - Prozac comes to mind - but I think it's important to remember that some people are dependent on psych drugs not *just* for their moods, but for their lives...

 

[BlackWolf65]

unmedicated manic depressives spell trouble...I know it did in my case....sent me right over the edge....

Trouble is an understatement... lol...

Enraged, violent, suicidal...

Yeah... I'll stick to my drugs, thank you very much...