Did ANY Democrat watch the Democrat debate?

*snicker*

Back a sure loser and then you can say, "It ain't my fault..."


Blame Bush. Jenna, to be specific!
 
Cap’n AMatrixca said:
*snicker*

Back a sure loser and then you can say, "It ain't my fault..."


Blame Bush. Jenna, to be specific!
What a superficial thinker you turned out to be.
 
Byron In Exile said:
Ron Paul.

Thank you.

I was impressed with Ron Paul by some footage of a debate on Fox. It was obvious the "party" did not like what he was saying, but it made sense to me. He stood his ground and made his points. I respect that.
 
SaintPeter said:
Thank you.

I was impressed with Ron Paul by some footage of a debate on Fox. It was obvious the "party" did not like what he was saying, but it made sense to me. He stood his ground and made his points. I respect that.


You might respect what he has to say, but he's saying to the wrong constituency to get elected.

Mama always said: St-st-st-stupid is as stupid does.

Why do you think John McCain is no longer in con-con-con, in the running, man?



I'll take superficial and raise you a vapid...
 
Okay, fuck the war against Islam.

That's not the United States' business.

The main business of the USA with the Middle East is oil.

Would the US have spent more money in the recent "war" with Iraq than in the entire Vietnam "conflict" if Iraq's main export were coffee or bananas?
 
Cap’n AMatrixca said:
*snicker*

Back a sure loser and then you can say, "It ain't my fault..."


Blame Bush. Jenna, to be specific!

You mean like voting for the Libertarian candidate?
 
On a related note, I was anxiously awaiting the republican debate on minorities.

The only problem was that not a single republican candidate showed up.
 
SaintPeter said:
Thank you.

I was impressed with Ron Paul by some footage of a debate on Fox. It was obvious the "party" did not like what he was saying, but it made sense to me. He stood his ground and made his points. I respect that.
I have a major problem with his views on abortion.

Fucking major, actually — but thankfully in the US that's not the President's business.

At least presently.

And yet, otherwise, he so understands the US Constitution that I would vote for him an instant over any other candidate for any office. This is a man of integrity. Why he is subjecting himself to the sort of abuse anyone should expect with his views at his age escapes me.
 
Byron In Exile said:
Okay, fuck the war against Islam.

That's not the United States' business.

The main business of the USA with the Middle East is oil.

Would the US have spent more money in the recent "war" with Iraq than in the entire Vietnam "conflict" if Iraq's main export were coffee or bananas?


Is that allowing for adjusting for inflation?

Is that lumping in Afghanistan?

Let's face it. If there were no oil, there would have been no Saddam invading Kuwait...
 
Then the House of Saud would not have had to run to the allies it made right after Yalta when FDR beat Churchill to the punch and hence no excuse for bin Laden to target the Crusaders...

;) ;)

It's about oil. It also means indirectly it's about the Left's complete insistence that we don't do one damned thing to get to the oil reserves we have or develop nuclear material, so it can be argued that it's not the Neo-cons who caused the violence.
 
zipman said:
On a related note, I was anxiously awaiting the republican debate on minorities.

The only problem was that not a single republican candidate showed up.


What the hell are you talking about?

Everytime the Republicans get into the Minority business, Clarence Thomas, Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice,ALberto Gonzales the race warlords of the Left go apeshit...
 
zipman said:
You mean like voting for the Libertarian candidate?



I already owned up to voting for Bush, twice, and that made you go apeshit, so wrong again zip.

Focus on the issues, not me, and you'll be better off.
 
Cap’n AMatrixca said:
What the hell are you talking about?

Everytime the Republicans get into the Minority business, Clarence Thomas, Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice,ALberto Gonzales the race warlords of the Left go apeshit...

What happened, Drudge didn't report on this?


Debate Over Decision to Skip Minority Forum

As the Democrats debated last night in New Hampshire, a debate broke out about the decision of the leading Republican presidential hopefuls to skip a televised forum tonight that focuses on issues important to black and Hispanic voters.

None of the leading Republican candidates plan to attend the forum, which the television host Tavis Smiley will moderate at Morgan State University in Maryland and which will be broadcast live on public television. All the leading Democratic candidates attended a similar debate moderated by Mr. Smiley in June at Howard University in Washington.

Instead of attending the televised forum, which has been in the works for months, Rudolph W. Giuliani and Mitt Romney are scheduled to be in California, Fred D. Thompson in Tennessee and Senator John McCain in New York.

“I’m very disappointed by it,” said Michael Steele, the chairman of Gopac, an organization that tries to groom Republican candidates, who said he had spent months trying to have all the candidates to attend the forum. “The hope was that it would be a chance for these guys to get out there and have a direct conversation with African-Americans and minorities across the country and lay out their visions.”

Mr. Steele said that shunning the debate could not only harm the party’s prospects with black voters, but with independent voters, as well.

“It doesn’t help,” said Mr. Steele, who became the first African-American to win statewide office in Maryland when he was elected lieutenant governor. “It’s hard enough as a black Republican to stand up in the community and say, ‘Trust me, these guys really do care,’ and then, when given the opportunity to show that, these folks don’t see the follow- through.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/27/us/politics/27repubs.html?hp
 
Cap’n AMatrixca said:
I already owned up to voting for Bush, twice, and that made you go apeshit, so wrong again zip.

Focus on the issues, not me, and you'll be better off.

First off, nothing you have ever said has made me go apeshit on here. Like LT, you place far more weight on your posts than anyone else.

Secondly, I'm pretty sure you have said that you did not vote for Bush and that you voted Libertarian in the last two elections. So which is it?
 
Cap’n AMatrixca said:
Is "fundamental" really the word you wanted to use?

And I beg to differ. The one thing every Democrat is promising is more taxation. If the people who promised us less gave us more, what the hell do you think the people promising more are going to give us?


With George asking for $190 billion for 2008. A total of over $800 billion since 9/11/2001. Now that's responsible management while dropping taxes. If it was private sector, his ass would be toast.

There is no option.

Oh, and, no, I didn't watch the debates.
 
zipman said:
What happened, Drudge didn't report on this?


Debate Over Decision to Skip Minority Forum

As the Democrats debated last night in New Hampshire, a debate broke out about the decision of the leading Republican presidential hopefuls to skip a televised forum tonight that focuses on issues important to black and Hispanic voters.

None of the leading Republican candidates plan to attend the forum, which the television host Tavis Smiley will moderate at Morgan State University in Maryland and which will be broadcast live on public television. All the leading Democratic candidates attended a similar debate moderated by Mr. Smiley in June at Howard University in Washington.

Instead of attending the televised forum, which has been in the works for months, Rudolph W. Giuliani and Mitt Romney are scheduled to be in California, Fred D. Thompson in Tennessee and Senator John McCain in New York.

“I’m very disappointed by it,” said Michael Steele, the chairman of Gopac, an organization that tries to groom Republican candidates, who said he had spent months trying to have all the candidates to attend the forum. “The hope was that it would be a chance for these guys to get out there and have a direct conversation with African-Americans and minorities across the country and lay out their visions.”

Mr. Steele said that shunning the debate could not only harm the party’s prospects with black voters, but with independent voters, as well.

“It doesn’t help,” said Mr. Steele, who became the first African-American to win statewide office in Maryland when he was elected lieutenant governor. “It’s hard enough as a black Republican to stand up in the community and say, ‘Trust me, these guys really do care,’ and then, when given the opportunity to show that, these folks don’t see the follow- through.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/27/us/politics/27repubs.html?hp

So, whenever this Smiley guy decides to have a forum, everyone is supposed to drop their plans and rush to him to prove they are there for minorities? I didn't know he was in charge of minority debate. Maybe they should just go speak to the wait staff of the hotel they are staying in (Joe Biden).

Michael Steele has nothing to be dissappointed about since the Republicans backed his bid for office proving they were sensitive to a minority. Maybe HE should be the one concerned about addressing minorities since most of the black community just out and out thinks Republicans are the equivalent of the Klan. Because Bush has tried to reach out over and over and the NAACP, in particular, has treated him like Bollinger on Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Like Democrats and the South, the Republicans have had to write off that constituency 'cause they're not from the hood.

When the Democrats went to talk to the minorities, they told Bill Richardson he had to speak the language of the white power structure...
 
ksmybuttons said:
With George asking for $190 billion for 2008. A total of over $800 billion since 9/11/2001. Now that's responsible management while dropping taxes. If it was private sector, his ass would be toast.

There is no option.

Oh, and, no, I didn't watch the debates.


I know. If Democrats had watched they would have heard the top tier all say, "We cannot promise to get out of Iraq."

That's after they've been demanding for months that Bush get out...

What percentage of the budget is that and by what pecentage has revenue increased and by what number has the projected deficit dropped?
 
zipman said:
On a related note, I was anxiously awaiting the republican debate on minorities.

The only problem was that not a single republican candidate showed up.


Why do you say things that are easily disproven?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070928...s_debate_12;_ylt=AkZjI4kiUS8ZkO9_JHm6znR0WnwV

The Republican candidates did not skip the minority “debates.” The big four did, but the rest were there. And they said plenty of negative things about the front runners, ripe to be cherry-picked.
 
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