Disaster in the Making

In summary

Troops are coming home

We have the oil.

Troops are leaving Syria, but going to Iraq

Troops are staying in Syria, because we don’t have the oil.

Folks defending Trump at every turn.

I’m sure I’ve missed more than one turn.

[Insert Zumi’s dog chasing it’s tail gif here.]

We’re not leaving and service members in Syria. 🙊
 
France has a duty to defend its own borders, it isn't up to us.

I see you approve of Trump’s fuck everyone else philosophy. Convenient for now perhaps, but shortsighted in the long run. Someday we may require assistance.
 
RWCJ misses the point, yet again.

It is not leaving Syria that is at issue. Nobody wants endless wars. It is actually a welcome change that you dopes are finally onboard with not killing more brown people for questionable national security benefit (ie. no benefit).

It is doing it as a favor to Erdoğan on a phone call without policy consensus of people that know what the fuck they are doing. And doing it without a plan. And doing it so that the benefit accrues to Russia, Assad and has terrorist criminals fleeing jails to become threats, again, and undoing the work and blood of the soldiers in the region.

In other words, Trump sucks as a president. He cannot manage foreign policy and even when the policy direction is desirable he fucks it up abdominaly because he thinks he can can act unilaterally.
 
How is today any different than two weeks ago in your eyes? Iraq’s a wall in the park?🙊 A deep state free zone?

Trump is making sure we aren't involved in actions that are not in our national security interests as defined by the present CinC. He ran on this and has plainly said, on more than one occasion, that he would rebuild our depleted military power. He said several times he would fight only when it was in our security interests and then "only to win."

In other words, if he went to war it would be a punitive endeavor of overwhelming force with a minimum loss of American lives without the nation building drain. Unlike the situation in Syria where Obama and Clinton were arming terrorists in order to accomplish a failed regime change. They created this mess. That's what is different.
 
RWCJ misses the point, yet again.

It is not leaving Syria that is at issue. Nobody wants endless wars. It is actually a welcome change that you dopes are finally onboard with not killing more brown people for questionable national security benefit (ie. no benefit).

It is doing it as a favor to Erdoğan on a phone call without policy consensus of people that know what the fuck they are doing. And doing it without a plan. And doing it so that the benefit accrues to Russia, Assad and has terrorist criminals fleeing jails to become threats, again, and undoing the work and blood of the soldiers in the region.

In other words, Trump sucks as a president. He cannot manage foreign policy and even when the policy direction is desirable he fucks it up abdominaly because he thinks he can can act unilaterally.

Don’t forget it’s to the detriment of Israel.
 
Trump is making sure we aren't involved in actions that are not in our national security interests as defined by the present CinC. He ran on this and has plainly said, on more than one occasion, that he would rebuild our depleted military power. He said several times he would fight only when it was in our security interests and then "only to win."

In other words, if he went to war it would be a punitive endeavor of overwhelming force with a minimum loss of American lives without the nation building drain. Unlike the situation in Syria where Obama and Clinton were arming terrorists in order to accomplish a failed regime change. They created this mess. That's what is different.

That’s not an answer, gramps. :rose:
 
RWCJ misses the point, yet again.

It is not leaving Syria that is at issue. Nobody wants endless wars. It is actually a welcome change that you dopes are finally onboard with not killing more brown people for questionable national security benefit (ie. no benefit).

It is doing it as a favor to Erdoğan on a phone call without policy consensus of people that know what the fuck they are doing. And doing it without a plan. And doing it so that the benefit accrues to Russia, Assad and has terrorist criminals fleeing jails to become threats, again, and undoing the work and blood of the soldiers in the region.

In other words, Trump sucks as a president. He cannot manage foreign policy and even when the policy direction is desirable he fucks it up abdominaly because he thinks he can can act unilaterally.

And Borenextdoor lacks the intellect to understand Syria or the Constitution.
 
RWCJ misses the point, yet again.

It is not leaving Syria that is at issue. Nobody wants endless wars. It is actually a welcome change that you dopes are finally onboard with not killing more brown people for questionable national security benefit (ie. no benefit).

It is doing it as a favor to Erdoğan on a phone call without policy consensus of people that know what the fuck they are doing. And doing it without a plan. And doing it so that the benefit accrues to Russia, Assad and has terrorist criminals fleeing jails to become threats, again, and undoing the work and blood of the soldiers in the region.

In other words, Trump sucks as a president. He cannot manage foreign policy and even when the policy direction is desirable he fucks it up abdominaly because he thinks he can can act unilaterally.

This.
 
Trump is making sure we aren't involved in actions that are not in our national security interests as defined by the present CinC. He ran on this and has plainly said, on more than one occasion, that he would rebuild our depleted military power. He said several times he would fight only when it was in our security interests and then "only to win."

In other words, if he went to war it would be a punitive endeavor of overwhelming force with a minimum loss of American lives without the nation building drain. Unlike the situation in Syria where Obama and Clinton were arming terrorists in order to accomplish a failed regime change. They created this mess. That's what is different.

that's quite literally the goal for every war you basic twit.
 
that's quite literally the goal for every war you basic twit.

No it isn't, you petulant pussy.

Obama never applied overwhelming force. He handcuffed our military with ROEs that helped the enemy kill Americans. Trump stripped those away to wipe out Isis in a year, something Obama couldn't do in years, and really didn't want to do.:rolleyes:
 
No it isn't, you petulant pussy.

Obama never applied overwhelming force. He handcuffed our military with ROEs that helped the enemy kill Americans. Trump stripped those away to wipe out Isis in a year, something Obama couldn't do in years, and really didn't want to do.:rolleyes:

dear lord you're a delusional 🤡.

what overwhelming force has trump shown? all he has done is prematurely pulled out and let ISIS reform stronger than ever and undid all the damage obama caused them :rolleyes:
 
dear lord you're a delusional 🤡.

what overwhelming force has trump shown? all he has done is prematurely pulled out and let ISIS reform stronger than ever and undid all the damage obama caused them :rolleyes:

Ask the Caliphate, they were defeated in detail. Trump ordered Mattis to annihilate them and he did, and while he was at it he wiped out 200 Russian mercenaries in the process. They moved in a Marine artillery unit that seriously fucked up every grid square visibly occupied by Isis fighters. The Air Force was cleared to take down all of their fuel and supply convoys without having to contend with the ridiculous strictures of Obama's EPA in target selections. They were slaughtered by the thousands, surrendering survivors were identified and jailed or left to the justice of the Kurds. You really need to educate yourself on the issue.
 
No Americans in France? How will France feel if ISIS we let escape commit a terrorist act in France?

Every one of whom handled by our SpecOps have had their DNA, fingerprints, and retinal scans, placed in a database. So we know who they are.

If we already have their scans, the better we are. If they were to return to France, we would simply tell French to detain those or face their own consequences...
 
Ask the Caliphate, they were defeated in detail. Trump ordered Mattis to annihilate them and he did, and while he was at it he wiped out 200 Russian mercenaries in the process. They moved in a Marine artillery unit that seriously fucked up every grid square visibly occupied by Isis fighters. The Air Force was cleared to take down all of their fuel and supply convoys without having to contend with the ridiculous strictures of Obama's EPA in target selections. They were slaughtered by the thousands, surrendering survivors were identified and jailed or left to the justice of the Kurds. You really need to educate yourself on the issue.

you don't really expect anyone to believe your weak interpretation of a right wing blog theory do you?
 
RWCJ misses the point, yet again.

It is not leaving Syria that is at issue. Nobody wants endless wars. It is actually a welcome change that you dopes are finally onboard with not killing more brown people for questionable national security benefit (ie. no benefit).

It is doing it as a favor to Erdoğan on a phone call without policy consensus of people that know what the fuck they are doing. And doing it without a plan. And doing it so that the benefit accrues to Russia, Assad and has terrorist criminals fleeing jails to become threats, again, and undoing the work and blood of the soldiers in the region.

In other words, Trump sucks as a president. He cannot manage foreign policy and even when the policy direction is desirable he fucks it up abdominaly because he thinks he can can act unilaterally.

Nobody does a favor in international politics, only the interests do matter.

Obama invited Russians. Otherwise Russians would not be in Syria at all. He didn't want regime change anymore, and asked Russia to save Esad. Obama's original plan was a regime change, and later on that plan changed. Tell me about that flip flop which Trump is ending it. He may be acting unilaterally, and as long as it is within his power; why not? It is a campaign promise and he is following through.
 
Mission parameters have been adjusted to conform with Trump's worldview: Forget the Kurds, protect the oilfields.

Seems about right.

Forget your comrades the anti-America socialist terrorist.....which is what REALLY has you so upset.

Democrats and the deep state love their communists wherever they may be found.;)

It's the only reason they are bent out of shape.

No dummy, forget the PPK Kurdish communists, enforce the sanctions, and hurt the Russians.

Rob loves his anti-American lefties though!!

They are escaping and you’re a fool if you think they are not a threat to our security, and that of Americans around the world.

Sounds like a good reason to secure our borders and control who we let into the country.

"OH NOEZ THAT'S NAZISM!!! "

No Americans in France? How will France feel if ISIS we let escape commit a terrorist act in France?

Not many M'aricans get protection outside of our legal borders.

Who gives a fuck? France lets them in and gets diversified that's their problem....they called us ogres and warmongering knuckle draggers for taking the fight to them, let's see how they handle Allah Akbarz fucking their people/society/nation up.

We’ve gained zero from Trump’s actions and lost much.

We didn't lose ANYTHING.

The respect of left wing terrorist that fucking hate us, is the only thing we've lost. Not a big deal.

I see you approve of Trump’s fuck everyone else philosophy. Convenient for now perhaps, but shortsighted in the long run. Someday we may require assistance.

LMFAO!!! Someday......and NOBODY would come.

Better to keep ourselves strong instead of relying on those who fucking loathe us.

Unless you're one of those ultra-patriotic "progressive" folks who thinks we owe our enemies EVERYTHING....but only if they are violent socialist. :rolleyes:

RWCJ misses the point, yet again.

It is not leaving Syria that is at issue. Nobody wants endless wars.

It is doing it as a favor to Erdoğan on a phone call without policy consensus of people that know what the fuck they are doing.

Claims nobody wants endless wars....while advocating endless war.

CIC doesn't need consensus of people. Never has.

Go back to middle school and take a remedial civics class BND.

dear lord you're a delusional 🤡.

what overwhelming force has trump shown? all he has done is prematurely pulled out and let ISIS reform stronger than ever and undid all the damage obama caused them :rolleyes:

Remember when Trump dropped a MOAB on ISIS??

All the "progressives" cried for the deaths of poor brown people who hate you and the USA at the hands of LITERALLY Hitler???

Now you lot are all clamoring for eternal war in the middle east for no reason..

The left has no principals beyond "orange man bad".
 
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