Disney Checkmates DeSantis

[butters]

big expansion now happening in Anaheim; $1.9B... desantis cost florida a fortune

https://www.theartistree.fm/journal...ts-the-green-light-from-anaheim-city-council/

The decision follows an eight-hour public hearing, where residents, Disneyland employees, and officials from neighboring cities voiced both support and concerns regarding the proposal.

Disney CEO Bob Iger has confirmed upcoming attractions, including an Avatar-themed area inspired by James Cameron’s World of Pandora, as part of the Disneyland Resort. During a presentation at Disney Imagineering, Iger emphasized leveraging both physical land and intellectual property to create value for shareholders. This signals Disney’s intention to capitalize on its rich portfolio of IPs to enhance the park’s offerings.

Among the IPs potentially incorporated into Disney’s Anaheim plans are Frozen, Tron, Zootopia, and Tangled, indicating a diverse range of thematic possibilities. The company aims to draw inspiration from successful ventures like Tokyo DisneySea and Shanghai Disneyland to introduce novel experiences to Disneyland.

 

[Chobham]

big expansion now happening in Anaheim; $1.9B... desantis cost florida a fortune

https://www.theartistree.fm/journal...ts-the-green-light-from-anaheim-city-council/

Let's be clear, neither Florida nor DeSantis has lost a single penny. You can't count what you never had.

Some more facts. Disneyland Anaheim is land limited, there is limited space for expansion which means any ambitious project is going to come at the expense of what is already there. Perhaps that's a good thing depending on the draw value of the replacement.

Next comes the costs associated with construction, California is significantly more regulated and costly regarding construction than Florida.

And last is the taxes. Even should Disney be able to negotiate some tax break eventually that break will expire and then they'll pay through the nose.

Bottom line is that if this is Iger's attempt to stick it to DeSantis it's short sighted and self-defeating. As a rationale business decision it's questionable.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Let's be clear, neither Florida nor DeSantis has lost a single penny. You can't count what you never had.

Some more facts. Disneyland Anaheim is land limited, there is limited space for expansion which means any ambitious project is going to come at the expense of what is already there. Perhaps that's a good thing depending on the draw value of the replacement.

Next comes the costs associated with construction, California is significantly more regulated and costly regarding construction than Florida.

And last is the taxes. Even should Disney be able to negotiate some tax break eventually that break will expire and then they'll pay through the nose.

Bottom line is that if this is Iger's attempt to stick it to DeSantis it's short sighted and self-defeating. As a rationale business decision it's questionable.

lol. Butters is desperately reaching. Disney has announced plans to invest $60 billion in its theme park business that includes a massive 14 acre expansion at Disney World Florida.

Hopefully the $1.98 billion of the $60 billion that’s going to Disneyland in Anaheim gets built fast. My grandkids out there love Disneyland and I’m sure will be thrilled when the new rides are ready.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Let's be clear, neither Florida nor DeSantis has lost a single penny. You can't count what you never had.

Some more facts. Disneyland Anaheim is land limited, there is limited space for expansion which means any ambitious project is going to come at the expense of what is already there. Perhaps that's a good thing depending on the draw value of the replacement.

Next comes the costs associated with construction, California is significantly more regulated and costly regarding construction than Florida.

And last is the taxes. Even should Disney be able to negotiate some tax break eventually that break will expire and then they'll pay through the nose.

Bottom line is that if this is Iger's attempt to stick it to DeSantis it's short sighted and self-defeating. As a rationale business decision it's questionable.

You have no idea what you’re talking about.
The Disneyland Forever project wouldn’t sacrifice anything because the proposal is to take land that is currently not zoned for theme park attractions and make it zoned for theme park attractions.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Either way its not even possible to judge how money in lost tourism money this will coat assuming this doesn't get unfucked. I've only been to Disney World once and I was like three I know I rode and elephant but only because I've seen pictures. I live close enough to LA that if I want I can drop in on a whim anytime I please.

 

[wizzard426]

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[desecration]

Even should Disney be able to negotiate some tax break eventually that break will expire and then they'll pay through the nose.

Kind of like that proposed Samsung plant in Texas. Funny how sometimes government admits that taxes damage business.

 

[wizzard426]

Solyndra received a tax break!

 

[desecration]

Probably not the smoking gun people want it to be:

As we previously noted, one of Solyndra’s major investors was a venture-capital fund linked to George Kaiser, a bundler for Obama’s 2008 campaign. To be more specific, the investor was Argonaut Private Equity, an investment arm of the George Kaiser Family Foundation—an anti-poverty charity funded by George Kaiser.

George Kaiser has made 16 visits to the president’s aides since 2009, as Bloomberg and others have pointed out. Kaiser, who is based in Tulsa, was also in D.C. the week before the Obama administration awarded Solyndra its loan guarantee. As the The Daily Caller notes, he logged four visits with White House officials in two days.

Kaiser’s charity told the Washington Post that George Kaiser is not personally invested in Solyndra and “did not participate in any discussions with the U.S. Government regarding the loan.”

https://www.propublica.org/article/whats-happening-with-solyndra-heres-our-guide

 

[butters]

lol. Butters is desperately reaching. Disney has announced plans to invest $60 billion in its theme park business that includes a massive 14 acre expansion at Disney World Florida.

Hopefully the $1.98 billion of the $60 billion that’s going to Disneyland in Anaheim gets built fast. My grandkids out there love Disneyland and I’m sure will be thrilled when the new rides are ready.

look at you being wrong again, bless your heart:

Iger, talking with investors on the 1st quarter earnings call, said most of the $60 billion they plan to plow into theme parks and the cruise line will be spread out around the world.

“You can pretty much conclude they’ll be all over,” Iger said.

on the matter of investment in florida, Iger was non-committal after disney saw falling attendance and higher costs, but didn't specify there would be no expansion.

“We’re already hard at work at basically determining where we’re going to place our new investments and what they will be,” Disney CEO Bob Iger said.

https://wsvn.com/news/local/florida...nvestment-be-hinting-at-a-fifth-orlando-park/

 

[HisArpy]

look at you being wrong again, bless your heart:


on the matter of investment in florida, Iger was non-committal after disney say falling attendance and higher costs, but didn't specify there would be no expansion.

https://wsvn.com/news/local/florida...nvestment-be-hinting-at-a-fifth-orlando-park/

I love how butterfat is still trying to twist this leftist losing saga into a win despite it not turning out anywhere close to the gloatfest she originally thought it would be.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Good article in the WSJ today about how Google’s swift termination of 28 employees is illustrative of more companies becoming less willing to bow to political pressure from activist employees. It cites the consequences of Disney’s ill-fated decision to pander to angry LGBTQ employees by using its influence to purposely misrepresent Florida’s parental rights legislation.

Company Bosses Draw a Red Line on Office Activists

Google’s dismissal of protesting workers is the latest example of employers pushing back on pressure tactics by staff

“The perils of being ensnared in partisan politics is changing the calculus of how responsive companies should be to any issue that doesn’t directly affect business, some executives and corporate advisers say. Many of them point to Disney’s now-resolved legal battle with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis as a cautionary tale.”

https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/workp...ve92wvx4zlikm2w&reflink=article_copyURL_share

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Good article in the WSJ today about how Google’s swift termination of 28 employees is illustrative of more companies becoming less willing to bow to political pressure from activist employees. It cites the consequences of Disney’s ill-fated decision to pander to angry LGBTQ employees by using its influence to purposely misrepresent Florida’s parental rights legislation.

Company Bosses Draw a Red Line on Office Activists

Google’s dismissal of protesting workers is the latest example of employers pushing back on pressure tactics by staff

“The perils of being ensnared in partisan politics is changing the calculus of how responsive companies should be to any issue that doesn’t directly affect business, some executives and corporate advisers say. Many of them point to Disney’s now-resolved legal battle with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis as a cautionary tale.”

https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/workp...ve92wvx4zlikm2w&reflink=article_copyURL_share

The fact that these two things are very different shows you really don’t understand the issue.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Disney’s ill-fated decision to pander to angry LGBTQ employees by using its influence to purposely misrepresent Florida’s parental rights legislation.

Exactly what was "ill-fated"?

Disney was never the one who had much to lose. That was DeSantis. Did this little tiff help him win the Presidential Republican nomination. No. Did it raise his odds of winning the next election? To soon to tell.

What exactly did Disney, lose?