Do women actually enjoy wearing high heels?

As to why women wear them, at this point I think it's more of an Emperor's new clothes thing.
Most women don't like them.
Most men don't actually care.
Yet the charade goes on...
Question, you say most men don't care.
Fair enough, but if that were true why do strippers and porn stars always wear them? Why do most women at clubs wear them? Why do women often wear them along with lingerie in the bedroom?
In all three of those examples-especially the first two, its a predominately male audience they're targeting and again to the first two, in a very sexualized way.

I have a foot fetish, and I've always found it interesting when women will be like "Yeah, that's gross" but yet, heels, stockings, painted toes, toe rings, an anklet, a sexy little tat on the foot. Are they not trying to make their feet look as appealing as the rest of them?

I'm asking this as a serious question, not trying to be snarky.

Us foot pervs need the truth.
 
As to why women wear them, at this point I think it's more of an Emperor's new clothes thing.
Most women don't like them.
Most men don't actually care.
Yet the charade goes on...
I may not entirely agree with all of that, but it's a legitimate point of view.

I just have a problem with a man telling me I "shouldn't be wearing heels" because I "don't know how to walk in them."
 
Most men don't actually care.

Going by how many guys in chat tell me how hot i must look specifically in heels, and how disappointed they often get if i say no, dead wrong.

Men loooove high heels, the higher the better.

High heels, short skirt, stockings, usually a low cut top thrown in. That is the expected template.
 
Going by how many guys in chat tell me how hot i must look specifically in heels, and how disappointed they often get if i say no, dead wrong.

Men loooove high heels, the higher the better.

High heels, short skirt, stockings, usually a low cut top thrown in. That is the expected template.
Pink, you aren't allowed to wear heels anymore until you get a Man to sign off that you know how to walk in them.

That's the new rules, sorry.
 
Going by how many guys in chat tell me how hot i must look specifically in heels, and how disappointed they often get if i say no, dead wrong.

Men loooove high heels, the higher the better.

High heels, short skirt, stockings, usually a low cut top thrown in. That is the expected template.

I think, as with many other fetishes, there is a vocal minority, but I don't think they represent the world at large.
 
Men loooove high heels, the higher the better.

High heels, short skirt, stockings, usually a low cut top thrown in. That is the expected template.
My wife has some issues with her sciatic nerve so she generally only wears low heels to work or going out. She has some much higher ones, but they're for indoor use only.

Years back, when my daughters were in their early teens, the younger one snoops around and finds a pair of heels under the bed-because you know, people who aren't snooping are always sliding under the bed. And she says to her sister. "Look at these, there is no way she can walk in them!"
Older daughter. "She doesn't walk in them,"
Youngest "Then why does she have them?"
Oldest. "Seriously?"
Youngest..."What...oh, ewwwwwww!"

This however was not as awkward as the time she asked why we had a leash and collar in our room when we didn't have a dog.

This is their step mom, so I could only imagine what they told my ex when they went back home. Only thing I ever wanted for her was a muzzle.
 
Question, you say most men don't care.
Fair enough, but if that were true why do strippers and porn stars always wear them? Why do most women at clubs wear them? Why do women often wear them along with lingerie in the bedroom?
In all three of those examples-especially the first two, its a predominately male audience they're targeting and again to the first two, in a very sexualized way.

I have a foot fetish, and I've always found it interesting when women will be like "Yeah, that's gross" but yet, heels, stockings, painted toes, toe rings, an anklet, a sexy little tat on the foot. Are they not trying to make their feet look as appealing as the rest of them?

I'm asking this as a serious question, not trying to be snarky.

Us foot pervs need the truth.

Because it's the emperor's new clothes. No one wants to be the one to point out he's naked.

If a stripper came out barefoot do you really think most guys would care? They wouldn't cheer and ogle and the rest?

There are definitely foot fetishists out there, but they don't represent society as a whole.

Women spend far more time worried about shoes than men do, and worry far more about how other women will judge their footwear than how a man will feel about it.
 
Pink, you aren't allowed to wear heels anymore until you get a Man to sign off that you know how to walk in them.

That's the new rules, sorry.

EB might have worded his response poorly, but what I took from it was those women who aren't very comfortable in heels and walk awkwardly in them. It sort of defeats the point if everyone watching you is thinking "is she about to fall?"
 
When pointing your toes, or standing on tippy toes, or wearing heels, your muscles in your legs tighten and become more visible, your ass pops, legs look longer and more shapely.

Heels, hair, makeup, Botox, lingerie the list is immense on what people do to look and feel sexy. Whether for work or play, sex sells....

I have lots of high heel shoes...
 
When pointing your toes, or standing on tippy toes, or wearing heels, your muscles in your legs tighten and become more visible, your ass pops, legs look longer and more shapely.

Heels, hair, makeup, Botox, lingerie the list is immense on what people do to look and feel sexy. Whether for work or play, sex sells....

I have lots of high heel shoes...
That's a lot of work. My idea of looking good is wearing a shirt that doesn't have a heavy metal band or some type of horror movie or skull on it, a pair of jeans that aren't ripped, and brush my hair with something other than my fingers.
 
Going by how many guys in chat tell me how hot i must look specifically in heels, and how disappointed they often get if i say no, dead wrong.

Men loooove high heels, the higher the better.

High heels, short skirt, stockings, usually a low cut top thrown in. That is the expected template.
Unfortunate that women fall into that trap....
Who cares what men want....
At the end of the day. If women feel so insecure that they have to do what men want.... Then more power to them.
Using strippers and hookers isn't exactly strengthening either sides argument.
They're there to take as much cash as they can from the men so weak of mind they have to pay for their entertainment and sexual gratification.
Intelligent women have moved on....

Cagivagurl
 
Question, you say most men don't care.
Fair enough, but if that were true why do strippers and porn stars always wear them? Why do most women at clubs wear them? Why do women often wear them along with lingerie in the bedroom?
I think it is that vicious circle of conditioning. Men grow up being told, implicitly, that "men" like certain things. Really big tits, high heels, and back in the day, garter belts.

Most things that are explicitly aimed at arousing men feature those things prominently. So most men learn to associate them with sex. Or, maybe more importantly, with women who are sending signals of sexual availability. Then when men see them on a woman, they get aroused because of the association. Not because he finds those women more attractive per se, but because they appear more available. So those trying to appeal to men include them. A big self-reinforcing circle.

Most guys I know don't actually prefer enormous tits. But when we're in the locker rooms and bars, we all talk like they're the gold standard of attractiveness. Because we think everybody else thinks so, or at least because it makes for a common reference point.

Garter belts have gone out of fashion. I think heels, at least the most extreme ones, are getting there. Ginormous tits will be a harder nut to crack, because tits are inherently attractive, and so they aren't themselves going out of fashion, and exaggerated size is a subtle add-on in this regard. That plus the 'if something is good, more is better' mentality.

Thats not to say there aren't men genuinely attracted to those things, only that it isn't nearly as universal as it is mde out to be.

That said, heels do give a definition to women's legs and butts and height that adds to their attractiveness, though, in my opinion, transiently and shallowly. They at least draw more attention because it brings them closer to a certain ideal that may or may not be hard wired in our brains. It's not a fetish to be attracted to a woman in a slinky dress and heels. Where it becomes a fetish is when a man needs to see them when her legs are in the air.
 
I may not entirely agree with all of that, but it's a legitimate point of view.

I just have a problem with a man telling me I "shouldn't be wearing heels" because I "don't know how to walk in them."
I said "many" women, not "most" women, and certainly not "women" as in all women. If you choose to read into that, that I Inferred you don't know how to walk in heels, that's on you. My point was, many women do know how, but many women feel uncomfortable wearing heels - including a few women in this thread who've acknowledged that.

I'm thinking of the poor tottering girl who fell down the stairs because her heels were too high, and nearly broke her neck.
 
the list is immense on what people do to look and feel sexy.
And I think people like to feel sexy independent of what any class of potential partners think, even if nobody will see it. I've heard, and assume it is true, that women will wear sexy undergarments even when there is zero chance of them being seen, for just thst reason

There's a difference, though with a lot of overlap, between feeling sexy and trying to be appealing to others.
 
EB might have worded his response poorly, but what I took from it was those women who aren't very comfortable in heels and walk awkwardly in them. It sort of defeats the point if everyone watching you is thinking "is she about to fall?"
It's why I never look good in a tie, let alone a suit.
 
EB might have worded his response poorly, but what I took from it was those women who aren't very comfortable in heels and walk awkwardly in them. It sort of defeats the point if everyone watching you is thinking "is she about to fall?"
Thank you.

Or, in the several cases I was thinking of, actually fell.
 
And I think people like to feel sexy independent of what any class of potential partners think, even if nobody will see it. I've heard, and assume it is true, that women will wear sexy undergarments even when there is zero chance of them being seen, for just thst reason

There's a difference, though with a lot of overlap, between feeling sexy and trying to be appealing to others.

I've painted my toe nails and then put on boots knowing full well no one is going to see my feet.
It isn't rational, but I feel better having done it.
 
I've painted my toe nails and then put on boots knowing full well no one is going to see my feet.
It isn't rational, but I feel better having done it.
I don't think it is irrational. I mean, it could be, depending on why, but you know it is there, and psychological effects can be very real. There's a lot of woo in what passes for psychology, but not all of it. Some of it is just basic human nature.
 
And I think people like to feel sexy independent of what any class of potential partners think, even if nobody will see it. I've heard, and assume it is true, that women will wear sexy undergarments even when there is zero chance of them being seen, for just thst reason

The wearer sees it, and the wearer is somebody. Looking good to oneself is just as valid as looking good to somebody else.
 
I said "many" women, not "most" women, and certainly not "women" as in all women. If you choose to read into that, that I Inferred you don't know how to walk in heels, that's on you. My point was, many women do know how, but many women feel uncomfortable wearing heels - including a few women in this thread who've acknowledged that.

I'm thinking of the poor tottering girl who fell down the stairs because her heels were too high, and nearly broke her neck.
I think we can all agree that nobody should have to wear heels if they are uncomfortable in them.

We SHOULD all be able to agree that if someone wants to wear heels, that's their choice.

Your original post referred to women "not knowing how" to wear heels, not women feeling uncomfortable in them. It said some women "shouldn't" wear heels, not some women shouldn't have to wear heels. And then it went on to discuss how men react to women in heels, without expressing any concern for the health or well-being of women who wear heels.

And I wasn't the only one who interpreted it that way. Even the person defending you acknowledges that you "may have expressed yourself poorly."

Only you know what you meant. But if what you said is not what you meant, then no, that's not on me. That's on you.
 
And I wasn't the only one who interpreted it that way. Even the person defending you acknowledges that you "may have expressed yourself poorly."

Only you know what you meant. But if what you said is not what you meant, then no, that's not on me. That's on you.
I apologise for my poor choice of words, which lead to misinterpretation of my meaning.
 
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