Faith is an evil thing

[Wilson23]

Curst, not blest, be they who have not seen, and yet have believed.

 

[OpenMindedMom_MCHL]

How does that work?

Extremely well. Because I do have faith.

 

[Wilson23]

All faith is a form of wishful thinking.

Wishful thinking is not always wrong -- but it is always suspect, and you do not need to be a philosopher to see why.

 

[Wilson23]

Extremely well. Because I do have faith.

I suppose you mean by that that it makes you feel good, to believe there is a higher power who loves humans.

Wishful thinking.

 

[OpenMindedMom_MCHL]

All faith is a form of wishful thinking.

Wishful thinking is not always wrong -- but it is always suspect, and you do not need to be a philosopher to see why.

I also do not need a personal video of God sitting across from me at a table drinking tea to post on line to know that He is real. That is what faith means to me.

 

[OpenMindedMom_MCHL]

I suppose you mean by that that it makes you feel good, to believe there is a higher power who loves humans.

Wishful thinking.

It makes my life better. You will know the truth on the day you draw your last breath. I know the truth now.

 

[Bray123]

It makes my life better. You will know the truth on the day you draw your last breath. I know the truth now.

If you had been born in another country you would know a different truth, just as true as any other truth. Otherwise known as 'an alternative truth'.

 

[OpenMindedMom_MCHL]

If you had been born in another country you would know a different truth, just as true as any other truth. Otherwise known as 'an alternative truth'.

If frogs had wings they would not bump their butts every time they hop.
I hope you are happy with your 'alternative truth', I find great hope and joy living my 'real truth'.
I am not trying to talk anyone into or out of believing as they choose.

Masha Allah
Tabarak Allah

 

[LLCox]

Wonderfully well in my case. Because I have faith. I cannot talk anyone into or out of believing. I just do. I know that is a simplistic answer but its all I have,

Exactly what do you have faith in. Whatever it is is not working, look around you.

 

[Hel_Books]

It's no different than you having faith in Marx.

So you're admitting the Christian Nationalists are basically Stalinists with different flags?

 

[Wilson23]

Exactly what do you have faith in. Whatever it is is not working, look around you.

Islam, apparently.

 

[OpenMindedMom_MCHL]

Exactly what do you have faith in. Whatever it is is not working, look around you.

I have faith in God, the creator of all things. Each and everything that is 'not working' is the fault of imperfect, evil, cruel, fallible, greedy human beings who believe only in themselves. He gives us all choices, seldom do any of us choose wisely.

 

[Wilson23]

I have faith in God, the creator of all things. Each and everything that is 'not working' is the fault of imperfect, evil, cruel, fallible, greedy human beings who believe only in themselves. He gives us all choices, seldom do any of us choose wisely.

What would it take to convince you God does not exist?

 

[Typo Fu Master]

Christian Nationalists have taken to calling themselves "people of faith" -- by analogy with "people of color," implying, "don't despise us for what we are." Not really fair -- you're born with your color and can't change it.

But what is far more disturbing is their wearing "faith" as a badge of pride.

The most odious, the most objectionable thing about Christianity is that it places VALUE on FAITH. You just can't get more wrong-headed than that -- faith is a vice, not a virtue. I am tempted to say a sin, since sloth is generally ranked as a sin and faith is a form of sloth -- it means giving up on any rigorous, skeptical inquiry into first things and just accepting what you're told.

Faith -- in the religious sense -- is NOT a good thing for human beings to have. It is not good for the state of your soul.

If you don't believe in faith then why do you care about the state of your soul? It requires faith to believe you have one.

 

[OpenMindedMom_MCHL]

What would it take to convince you God does not exist?

Nothing can ever change my belief and my faith that He is real. I have no selfies of Him, no tiktok videos sent from paradise, I have not heard His Holy Voice emanate from a burning bush but I still believe. That is why it is called.... faith.

 

[Typo Fu Master]

I have faith in God, the creator of all things. Each and everything that is 'not working' is the fault of imperfect, evil, cruel, fallible, greedy human beings who believe only in themselves. He gives us all choices, seldom do any of us choose wisely.

If He is All-Knowing, He knew this would happen and did it anyway. Just saying. I don't automatically assume that a higher power exists, but we can't prove that one doesn't.

 

[OpenMindedMom_MCHL]

If He is All-Knowing, He knew this would happen and did it anyway. Just saying. I don't automatically assume that a higher power exists, but we can't prove that one doesn't.

He knew 'this would happen' but He set it all in motion to give us all the chance to change the outcome and make everything better. With few exceptions, all of us have squandered the opportunity so far. It still does not mean we should give up and stop trying,.

 

[Wilson23]

Nothing can ever change my belief and my faith that He is real. I have no selfies of Him, no tiktok videos sent from paradise, I have not heard His Holy Voice emanate from a burning bush but I still believe. That is why it is called.... faith.

Your faith is WORTHLESS if you cannot even conceive of anything that would destroy it.

 

[Wilson23]

He knew 'this would happen' but He set it all in motion to give us all the chance to change the outcome and make everything better. With few exceptions, all of us have squandered the opportunity so far. It still does not mean we should give up and stop trying,.

What kind of Muslim are you?! You're talking about free will, not kismet!

 

[Typo Fu Master]

He knew 'this would happen' but He set it all in motion to give us all the chance to change the outcome and make everything better. With few exceptions, all of us have squandered the opportunity so far. It still does not mean we should give up and stop trying,.

I agree but I feel like there has been a lot of unnecessary suffering.

 

[OpenMindedMom_MCHL]

I agree but I feel like there has been a lot of unnecessary suffering.

All by the hands of evil humans who decided it must be that way,

 

[OpenMindedMom_MCHL]

What kind of Muslim are you?! You're talking about free will, not kismet!

What 'kind of Muslim' I am pales in comparison to what kind of person I am.
I am Shia Muslimah. I grew up all my life in the Christian faith. Both are very similar and deeply entwined in more ways than people realize.

 

[Wilson23]

What 'kind of Muslim' I am pales in comparison to what kind of person I am.
I am Shia Muslimah. I grew up all my life in the Christian faith. Both are very similar and deeply entwined in more ways than people realize.

Well, most Christians believe in free will . . . except for Calvinists.

 

[OpenMindedMom_MCHL]

Your faith is WORTHLESS if you cannot even conceive of anything that would destroy it.

Evil can try to destroy it but the final days are written in many Holy books. Until the last moment comes does not mean we should cower in the dark and give up. My faith will never be worthless because it is a gift given to me and its value cannot be measured in 'worth'.

 

[OpenMindedMom_MCHL]

Well, most Christians believe in free will . . . except for Calvinists.

All faiths are different but the end goal is the same.