Filthiness - yes or no?

[Liar]

I thought it was the men I'd been stupid enough to fall in love with. I see that it's more than that. So what exactly is there to hope for?

Me? http://www.my-smileys.de/smileys2/hat_3.gif

 

[TheEarl]

Your av doesn't look shocked and appalled, dear...

What av?

The Earl

 

[elsol]

What av?

The Earl

Don't deny it... i saw it too.

Jesus man, give a guy warning!

Sincerely,
ElSol

 

[mlady_france]

I thought it was quite a nice surprise.

 

[logophile]

Still shocked and appalled. If I could go out with all ofyou then I would.

The Earl

Will you just go out with us one at a time then?

 

[logophile]

What av?

The Earl

Fuck! I missed it!

 

[minsue]

"Her clit was too high for her to have an orgasm with me inside her." is a direct quote from one of them.

Sincerely,
ElSol

That's got to be one of the stupidest excuses I've ever seen. I can't decide whether to laugh or cry.

 

[Guest]

 

[mlady_france]

That's got to be one of the stupidest excuses I've ever seen. I can't decide whether to laugh or cry.

I chose to laugh.

 

[minsue]

Me? http://www.my-smileys.de/smileys2/hat_3.gif

There's only one of you.

 

[Guest]

Well.. there's the Earl, and not a lot of guys have replied.

Ladies have replied mostly, so it could be a skew... You could all be getting rejected by the same bloke and/or his friends.

Or maybe it could just be the guys I hang out with.

"Her clit was too high for her to have an orgasm with me inside her." is a direct quote from one of them.

Sincerely,
ElSol

Um, nope. And I've never been rejected. I've just picked up on hints and stuff, that's all, and I turned things around to work for me (pulling back, emotionally, turning the negatives into postives, taking control of the situation, putting myself first, stop trying too hard to please, etc, etc).

I don't have any direct experience of the topic of the thread, but in an indirect and roundabout way, I do.

I've only been hurt once in my life, but even that worked out well. It's all about communication and compromise, and both people involved wanting things to work out.

I really don't think most men are like this. My hubby certainly isn't. He loves that I'm so sexually open and experimental and has never tired of me in any way whatsoever. Who's to say he's not the norm, as opposed to those at the other end of the spectrum?

 

[mlady_france]

Yes, and it was just mean for The Earl to tease us that way.

God bless photographic memories.

 

[elsol]

That's got to be one of the stupidest excuses I've ever seen. I can't decide whether to laugh or cry.

Oh cry!

It gets worse.

The first time I heard it... I actually tried to give him some sexual tips about it. Then a couple of years later, I was having dinner with a different ex-girlfriend of his and she made fun of it.

I was like 'You mean, he said that about you too?"

She laughed her brains out. I was... errr... dating ANOTHER of his ex's, and I turned to her and raised an eyebrow.

She nodded quite innocently.

That made the count THREE women, he said this about.

I couldn't fucking believe it!

Shit, the sex is the EASY part.

Sincerely,
ElSol

 

[elsol]

I really don't think most men are like this. My hubby certainly isn't. He loves that I'm so sexually open and experimental and has never tired of me in any way whatsoever. Who's to say he's not the norm, as opposed to those at the other end of the spectrum?

I think the real difference is the 'as' or 'more'.

As filthy, maybe. 'More' than, hmmm... I'm not buying that one.

I think it falls in the same place as sexual experience, from my view guys can handle a woman with as much sexual experience, but 'more' triggers insecurities.

For that reason, I FUCKING HATE the movie "Chasing Amy". It talks directly to the issue.

I think the question would be interesting to reverse.

How do women handle men more filthy than they are?

Sincerely,
ElSol

 

[minsue]

If we're gonna get stereotypical, women are raised to expect men to be filthier. Just as men are raised to view the kind of woman he likes to fuck as being different than the kind of woman he should marry.

 

[Liar]

There's only one of you.

Not true. There's the zombie-in-the-morning me, the caffeinated socipath me, the woody allen introspective me and a whole bunch of other me's. However, there's only one of me at the same time.

 

[logophile]

How do women handle men more filthy than they are?

Haven't met one, clearly.

 

[minsue]

Not true. There's the zombie-in-the-morning me, the caffeinated socipath me, the woody allen introspective me and a whole bunch of other me's. However, there's only one of me at the same time.

Touche

 

[Guest]

If we're gonna get stereotypical, women are raised to expect men to be filthier. Just as men are raised to view the kind of woman he likes to fuck as being different than the kind of woman he should marry.

'Nuff said.

 

[TheEarl]

How do women handle men more filthy than they are?

Sincerely,
ElSol

In my experience, the woman sets the pace entirely and everything slows to her level.

The Earl

 

[yui]

If we're gonna get stereotypical, women are raised to expect men to be filthier. Just as men are raised to view the kind of woman he likes to fuck as being different than the kind of woman he should marry.

Uh-oh...

 

[Liar]

All of this really begs a question:

How important is sex? It seems like fear of sexual inadequaty on one end and fear of not getting your sexual needs fulfilled on the other end is given a magnitude like none other in a relationship.

You know, having been single for several years now, I am not having what I thought was my sexual needs fulfilled, and gues what? I'm pretty damn happy anyway. Could it be that the importance of sexual perfection and sexual intensity in a relationship is blown way out of proportion by the common culture we share?

We're contantly reminded of that we need to "spice things up" in the bedroom. And yeah, by all means, I'm all for that. But why - and this is a question for guys and gals alike - is the humping game such a deal-breaker?

#L

 

[logophile]

In my experience, the woman sets the pace entirely and everything slows to her level.

The Earl

And do you have much success in bringing her up to yours? Or do you just continually choke back your real desires?

 

[TheEarl]

All of this really begs a question:

How important is sex? It seems like fear of sexual inadequaty on one end and fear of not getting your sexual needs fulfilled on the other end is given a magnitude like none other in a relationship.

You know, having been single for several years now, I am not having what I thought was my sexual needs fulfilled, and gues what? I'm pretty damn happy anyway. Could it be that the importance of sexual perfection and sexual intensity in a relationship is blown way out of proportion by the common culture we share?

We're contantly reminded of that we need to "spice things up" in the bedroom. And yeah, by all means, I'm all for that. But why - and this is a question for guys and gals alike - is the humping game such a deal-breaker?

#L

Sex wasn't important enough to me for it to be a deal breaker with my former Lady.

The Earl

 

[logophile]

All of this really begs a question:

How important is sex? It seems like fear of sexual inadequaty on one end and fear of not getting your sexual needs fulfilled on the other end is given a magnitude like none other in a relationship.

You know, having been single for several years now, I am not having what I thought was my sexual needs fulfilled, and gues what? I'm pretty damn happy anyway. Could it be that the importance of sexual perfection and sexual intensity in a relationship is blown way out of proportion by the common culture we share?

We're contantly reminded of that we need to "spice things up" in the bedroom. And yeah, by all means, I'm all for that. But why - and this is a question for guys and gals alike - is the humping game such a deal-breaker?

#L

It's not for me. It's OK with me if our experience levels don't match. It's even OK if our drives don't match. I can adjust, expand or contract as necessary. And if I care for the person, I'm pleased to do it.

My issue is with the whole "Chasing Amy" thing. Men don't want someone with my level of experience or my desires, even if I keep them quiet.

I can keep it all a secret, but at some point it's going to come out and then it's going to be ugly.