Filthiness - yes or no?

[minsue]

Earl,

I have met an equal though slightly more women in my sex life than men, and women are filthier than ... a gutter in harlem? Men are not filthy even when they can be in my experience. Women are worse at any age, especially over 25. In my experience, it is the woman who has power over what is said and not said, and believe me ... when weighing sex with women and men? The women, unless a guy is way over top agressive, and even when they are? They do not speak the dirty language of women.

As FOR GOSLINGS: I AM NOT A GOSLINGPHILE, they are cute, thats all. I know they don't have sex until they are geese, but Min is an adult GOSLING, and as such a metaphor. ONE WANTS to touch them. No one can deny it! No one! Innocently Yet ... there is gosling fetish. On Lit anyhow.

 

[elsol]

Filthiness? Do you like your girls to be as filthy, or filthier than you? Do you like them to have a dirty mind full of fantasies?

Or would you be intimidated if your g/f had a more sexual mind and a bigger libido than you?

Are we ready for the storm?

How about the CLASSIC answer to this.

There are certain kinds of women, you don't bring home to your mother.

In other words, it depends. A weekend in Reno... I want her FILTHY, but I don't want to snicker when she's walking down the aisle wearing white and I'm the groom.

Boy, is this going to hurt or what?

Sincerely,
ElSol

 

[minsue]

Are we ready for the storm?

How about the CLASSIC answer to this.

There are certain kinds of women, you don't bring home to your mother.

In other words, it depends. A weekend in Reno... I want her FILTHY, but I don't want to snicker when she's walking down the aisle wearing white and I'm the groom.

Boy, is this going to hurt or what?

Sincerely,
ElSol

Come on, El. Can't you do better than the Madonna/Whore paradox? There's no fun in arguing that one, it's been done to death.

 

[Guest]

Men are intimidated by a woman who has a dirty mind and the desire and will to use it. They like it at first and tell you they love you for it, but then they're afraid they can't handle you, so they tell you you're too intense and then they run away to fuck someone they can handle.

Exactly. Much like I said above. They tell you you're all they've ever wanted in a woman, tell you they've fallen in love with you and will want you for a very long time to come. Then, some way down the line, they tell you they can't handle the intensity any more.

 

[TheEarl]

<hugs to all>

Looks like L wins. I'm absolutely gobsmacked.

The Earl

 

[elsol]

Come on, El. Can't you do better than the Madonna/Whore paradox? There's no fun in arguing that one, it's been done to death.

But this is just another version of the same question... so it gets the same answer, doesn't it?

Sincerely,
ElSol

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Filthy is not the same as insatiable. An insatiable woman is frightening to a man, because we're basically limited.

Filthy's not the same as aggressive. Aggressive women can be intimidating (so can aggressive men.)

Filthy's not the same as vulgar. Vulgarity doesn't do it for me.

Filthiness for me combines erotic tension with the mystique of the forbidden and makes a pretty potent combination. I'm all for it.

 

[logophile]

It hurts to know that you think of women like me as someone you can't take home to mom.
But it doesn't really surprise me.

 

[TheEarl]

Filthy is not the same as insatiable. An insatiable woman is frightening to a man, because we're basically limited.

Filthy's not the same as aggressive. Aggressive women can be intimidating (so can aggressive men.)

Filthy's not the same as vulgar. Vulgarity doesn't do it for me.

Filthiness for me combines erotic tension with the mystique of the forbidden and makes a pretty potent combination. I'm all for it.

Dr M gets it.

The Earl

 

[minsue]

It hurts to know that you think of women like me as someone you can't take home to mom.
But it doesn't really surprise me.

Come on over, Logo. I'll show you off to the family.

 

[sophia jane]

It hurts to know that you think of women like me as someone you can't take home to mom.
But it doesn't really surprise me.

L- I know exactly what you mean. We're good enough for fucking, but not for the long haul. Sigh.

SJ

 

[Guest]

It hurts to know that you think of women like me as someone you can't take home to mom.
But it doesn't really surprise me.

It doesn't hurt me, because I know it's just one facet of who I am. Much like you, too, I have no doubt.

We aren't filthy sluts 24/7. We know how to be "repsectable". As Min mentioned, it's that whole Madonna/Whore thing again.

Most of us, I am sure, act differently around different people, and in different situations. Some of us are pretty smart about it, too.

Edited to add: I KNOW I'm good enough for the long haul. I've been with my hubby for almost 16 years now (yes, we met when I was 16 - half my life, eep!). He likes me being who I am and how I am. Heck, he encourages it! But, I do know I lay myself open to hurt from others, because of how I am. But I do know, no matter what, that there is one very special man, who loves me, unconditionally. Well, three, including my Dad and two Brothers. My husband, Adam, is the best man I could have married - he understand me and loves me for exactly who I am, and doesn't even try to change me. He stays along for the rollercoaster ride, as he puts it.

 

[CharleyH]

Exactly. Much like I said above. They tell you you're all they've ever wanted in a woman, tell you they've fallen in love with you and will want you for a very long time to come. Then, some way down the line, they tell you they can't handle the intensity any more.

But women say this to other women, and men too. So what is the diff? I am not sure Doc is distinguishing. I think he is asking. Certainly, Lou, YOU HAVE had practice in letting men down?, and women too? Girls give wrong phone numbers most times? SURELY, LOU, when you get numbers, you do not call them all?

 

[TheEarl]

But women say this to other women, and men too. So what is the diff? I am not sure Doc is distinguishing. I think he is asking. Certainly, Lou, YOU HAVE had practice in letting men down?, and women too? Girls give wrong phone numbers most times? SURELY, LOU, when you get numbers, you do not call them all?

Crossed threads?

The Earl

 

[Guest]

But women say this to other women, and men too. So what is the diff? I am not sure Doc is distinguishing. I think he is asking. Certainly, Lou, YOU HAVE had practice in letting men down?, and women too? Girls give wrong phone numbers most times? SURELY, LOU, when you get numbers, you do not call them all?

I'm with Earl here.

 

[elsol]

Filthy is not the same as insatiable. An insatiable woman is frightening to a man, because we're basically limited.

Filthy's not the same as aggressive. Aggressive women can be intimidating (so can aggressive men.)

Filthy's not the same as vulgar. Vulgarity doesn't do it for me.

Filthiness for me combines erotic tension with the mystique of the forbidden and makes a pretty potent combination. I'm all for it.

Filthy to me is dirty.

And when you say someone is dirty, it connotes a lack of control and awareness of themselves.

It's like walking into someone's house and it being FILTHY!

So when uses the word filthy, to me, it's like saying their 'sexual house is filthy'.

Sincerely,
ElSol

 

[minsue]

Filthy to me is dirty.

And when you say someone is dirty, it connotes a lack of control and awareness of themselves.

It's like walking into someone's house and it being FILTHY!

So when uses the word filthy, to me, it's like saying their 'sexual house is filthy'.

Sincerely,
ElSol

Ah. There's the rub. Personally, I can't think of any filthy women who lack awareness of themselves.

 

[LadyJeanne]

Filthy to me is dirty.

And when you say someone is dirty, it connotes a lack of control and awareness of themselves.

It's like walking into someone's house and it being FILTHY!

So when uses the word filthy, to me, it's like saying their 'sexual house is filthy'.

Sincerely,
ElSol

I don't agree with this at all. A dirty mind has nothing to do with a lack of control or self-awareness. A woman with a dirty mind has an active imagination and channels it toward passionate and adventurous sex. It doesn't mean she sleeps with every dick that comes along or that she's not aware of the sexual power she has, or that she's not in control of her life in any way.

 

[sophia jane]

I don't agree with this at all. A dirty mind has nothing to do with a lack of control or self-awareness. A woman with a dirty mind has an active imagination and channels it toward passionate and adventurous sex. It doesn't mean she sleeps with every dick that comes along or that she's not aware of the sexual power she has, or that she's not in control of her life in any way.

Amen!

SJ

 

[logophile]

Back to ElSol's post...

This is exactly what keeps me from looking for a real relationship. I'm fairly certain that most men feel like this. Maybe not all of you guys here at Lit, but then they're a self-selected group of people who has chosen to be here, probably in part because we find acceptance for our kinks, fetishes, whathaveyou that are not present in the rest of the world. I know that most men aren't going to be willing to keep me around, even though I know how to keep my naughtiness in the appropriate time and place. I'm more than they can take.

 

[LadyJeanne]

Exactly. Much like I said above. They tell you you're all they've ever wanted in a woman, tell you they've fallen in love with you and will want you for a very long time to come. Then, some way down the line, they tell you they can't handle the intensity any more.

And then they find someone they can handle and some way down the line, they start threads in the How To forum asking how to get their wives to be more slutty in bed or ask why their wives have completely lost interest in sex and they haven't gotten laid in 10 years.

 

[Dar~]

I just want a lover who won't flinch when I make a suggestion.

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[Guest]

And then they find someone they can handle and some way down the line, they start threads in the How To forum asking how to get their wives to be more slutty in bed or ask why their wives have completely lost interest in sex and they haven't gotten laid in 10 years.

Bingo!!!

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

Filthy to me is dirty. . . .

Much of this question depends upon semantics.

How has dirty been defined?

Does it refer to Experience, or Sluttiness, or Grime & Disease?

 

[TheEarl]

I have to say, given the posts on here, that men are fucking stupid!

No wonder so many of you like women.

The Earl