For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

[ChloeTzang]

I like the way he ended the war in 24 hours.

Yeah, it was an amazing success. You wonder how he did it.

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[dmallord]

Quoting before deletion

What's up with all these citations? Are you making a scrapbook for retirement?

 

[ll74]

What's up with all these citations? Are you making a scrapbook for retirement?

It's exactly what it says.

Lancey is deleting his posts

 

[dmallord]

It's exactly what it says.

Lancey is deleting his posts

I'm sorry, Bud. I still don't see how that has you quoting those things. What's the purpose? Lit must have created the ability to delete posts for some reason, right?

So, he's an ass who spouts off stupid shit. Is that something you feel the world needs to document about him?

You have to know that he reads what you say and delights in it. He believes it gets your goat. I also get that vibe, as I've seen you do the quote things several times now.

If there is a purpose, okay. But I'm not seeing a reason to take jabs like that. Nothing about it addresses anything political as far as I can see.

 

[ll74]

I'm sorry, Bud. I still don't see how that has you quoting those things. What's the purpose? Lit must have created the ability to delete posts for some reason, right?.

That's cool. You don't need to know why I do things.

I also don't give a shit if you understand what I do and why

 

[ChloeTzang]

Ukrainian media beginning to be honest about Trump being a Russian asset......the bigger problem is that NATO members are more concerned with an upset Trump than Russia. That’s saying something about western weakness.

Time for everyone to simply acknowledge the truth and stop pretending. President Krasnov isn't even pretending that Putin isn't pulling his strings any more. This is a complete surrender to his puppet master.

The one nice thing about the G7 was that Carney, literally, gave Zelensky Trump's seat after he ran away from the G7...

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[ll74]

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This should be how Putin goes.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Russia is making it more and more clear that there will be no ceasefire and no negotiations. Accept Russia's demands (which amount to surrender) or surrender - the same thing.

Silence and inaction from Trump makes it more and more clear that he has come down on Russia's side. The only thing preventing him being more open about this is that some of the GOP would side with the Democrats if he did that. Other than that, it can't be plainer that Trump is somehow in Putin's pocket.

 

[HisArpy]

I think this image says a lot more than most people think it does.

Perhaps the US should withdraw the assistance we've been giving Ukraine. Because it certainly seems that they aren't very thankful for it.

Maybe then Ukraine will understand how deep they're in the shitter without any escape route except being flushed.

 

[ll74]

I think this image says a lot more than most people think it does.

Perhaps the US should withdraw the assistance we've been giving Ukraine. Because it certainly seems that they aren't very thankful for it.

Maybe then Ukraine will understand how deep they're in the shitter without any escape route except being flushed.

Whether they show us proper thanks is obviously very important

 

[HisArpy]

Whether they show us proper thanks is obviously very important

If someone buys you dinner and you say fuck off bastard after eating it, do you think you're going to get a second free meal from them?

Do you believe you're entitled to that free meal?

 

[ll74]

If someone buys you dinner and you say fuck off bastard after eating it, do you think you're going to get a second free meal from them?

Yes, obviously this is how foreign policy should work.

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Do you believe you're entitled to that free meal?

This is a dumb question in regards to foreign policy

 

[HisArpy]

Yes, obviously this is how foreign policy should work.

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This is a dumb question in regards to foreign policy

That is EXACTLY how foreign policy works.

 

[ll74]

That is EXACTLY how foreign policy works.

You're a fucking idiot

 

[HisArpy]

You're a fucking idiot

Lol, says the guy who thinks foreign policy isn't giving free meals at the US public feeding trough.

 

[ll74]

Lol, says the guy who thinks foreign policy isn't giving free meals at the US public feeding trough.

That's not what I think.

That's what you think in opposition to something stupid.

I know that foreign policy is not binary and that sometimes we give shit to people in advance of our global objectives.

 

[HisArpy]

That's not what I think.

That's what you think in opposition to something stupid.

I know that foreign policy is not binary and that sometimes we give shit to people in advance of our global objectives.

Lol, dream on.

 

[ll74]

Lol, dream on.

Transactionally, you should make immediate decisions for immediate results.

In ten years, you will revisit the discussion.

But yah....all about free shit......genius.


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We are here with Russia now because Obama gave Russia free shit. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But it's never about the free shit

 

[HisArpy]

Transactionally, you should make immediate decisions for immediate results.

In ten years, you will revisit the discussion.

But yah....all about free shit......genius.


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We are here with Russia now because Obama gave Russia free shit. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But it's never about the free shit

It's ALWAYS about the free shit. We give foreign aid so that foreign nations will act in our best interests.

Conversely, when foreign nations tell us to go fly a kite, they shouldn't be getting our free shit.

Enter Ukraine...

 

[ll74]

It's ALWAYS about the free shit. We give foreign aid so that foreign nations will act in our best interests.

Nope.

Conversely, when foreign nations tell us to go fly a kite, they shouldn't be getting our free shit.

Enter Ukraine...

Strategically, you're an idiot.

 

[HisArpy]

Nope.


Strategically, you're an idiot.

I'm not the one advocating sending arms to a nation fighting a war they can't win, and one which isn't ours in the first place, while that nation calls us names and demands we give them more.

Russia isn't our friend either but it if conquers Ukraine then we're no worse off. Europe might be, but WE aren't. Nor is China any stronger (and might actually be weaker). Remember, Ukraine used to be a former Soviet satellite State so for them to become such again changes nothing in the long game.

 

[ll74]

I'm not the one advocating sending arms to a nation fighting a war that isn't ours while that nation calls us names and demands we give them more.

I haven't advocated that.

Russia isn't our friend either but it if conquers Ukraine then we're no worse off. Europe might be, but WE aren't. Nor is China any stronger (and might actually be weaker). Remember, Ukraine used to be a former Soviet satellite State so for them to become such again changes nothing in the long game.

Ukraine is our ally.

 

[HisArpy]

Another word here;

Was is a game of attrition. Eventually one side begins to lose the ability to wage war and at that point the game proceeds to the bloody conclusion.

Ukraine right now cannot fund its war machine. It's relying on foreign aid to do that. However, eventually that foreign aid will run out as nations realize that they've spent more than they'll ever get back and their national economies start to slow as a result.

At that point Ukraine has lost except for the dying parts. Right now we're at the very beginning of that point in time.