'Gay' vs 'really gay'?

[WriterDom]

According to the NCSF, National Coalition for Sexual Freedom, . NCSF found that 36% of SM practitioners have been victims of harassment and that 30% have been victims of discrimination. This discrimination resulted in 24% losing a job or a contract, 17% losing a promotion and 3% losing custody of a child.

And we are going to pick a fight with the gay community?

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

You weren't expecting us to react like this? Wow. Even I take offense at that view of us, and I've been keeping quiet about this entire thread so far.

As for the couch, I like this one just fine.

Uh huh...even with 'gays only' spraypainted on it?

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

According to the NCSF, National Coalition for Sexual Freedom, . NCSF found that 36% of SM practitioners have been victims of harassment and that 30% have been victims of discrimination. This discrimination resulted in 24% losing a job or a contract, 17% losing a promotion and 3% losing custody of a child.

And we are going to pick a fight with the gay community?

I wouldn't think so, no...and you would sort of think the communities would overlap to an extent. Guess not...

 

[zipman]

Uh huh...even with 'gays only' spraypainted on it?

After seeing their couch, I much prefer sitting on the floor in one of the other forums.

 

[Queersetti]

Uh huh...even with 'gays only' spraypainted on it?

This is not a gays only area.

But it is an area in which derogatory comments about the gay community, or any part of it, are not going to go unchallenged.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

This is not a gays only area.

But it is an area in which derogatory comments about the gay community, or any part of it, are not going to go unchallenged.

What about gay murderers...can I talk bad about them?

 

[glamorilla]

What about gay murderers...can I talk bad about them?

only if you're in the body bag.

 

[Queersetti]

What about gay murderers...can I talk bad about them?

As I have pointed out previously, you can talk about anything you like, just like everyone else at Lit.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

only if you're in the body bag.

See, that wasn't helpful at all!!

 

[glamorilla]

It works under the "Help keep America Beautiful" philosophy.

 

[Luna_Wolf72]

It works under the "Help keep America Beautiful" philosophy.

I think this is probably the best come back i have seen all day!!!

LMAO!!!

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

You know, I was having alot of fun until people started threatening my life...good call!

Straight-bashing is a new sport, huh? Follows the pattern, that's for damned sure.

 

[Never]

Johnny, may I suggest you learn the gentle art of shutthefuckup?
If you came in here and were able to scrap one halfway decent thought from that bedpan you call I brain, people would not jump on you.

Yeah, you made an offensive comment. But you knew that four fucking pages ago. You could have apologized then but you were "having fun".

Do you think anyone here cares about how much swishy men annoy you?

"Straight-bashing?" Boo-fucking-hoo. Welcome to Lit, if you want nice, go to the Playground.

 

[Queersetti]

You know, I was having alot of fun until people started threatening my life...good call!

Straight-bashing is a new sport, huh? Follows the pattern, that's for damned sure.

"People" started threatening your life?

One poster made a remark that could, with a great deal of twisting and squeezing, could be construed as being vaguely threatening. But once again, out comes Johnny's big brush to slap blame around indiscriminately.

Have you considered the possibility that when people react negatively to your gay bashing, that negativity may be directed to you, in particular, and not to straights in general?

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

"People" started threatening your life?

One poster made a remark that could, with a great deal of twisting and squeezing, could be construed as being vaguely threatening. But once again, out comes Johnny's big brush to slap blame around indiscriminately.

Have you considered the possibility that when people react negatively to your gay bashing, that negativity may be directed to you, in particular, and not to straights in general?

LOL!!


As soon as I bash gay people, I'll have to check and see.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Johnny, may I suggest you learn the gentle art of shutthefuckup?
If you came in here and were able to scrap one halfway decent thought from that bedpan you call I brain, people would not jump on you.

Yeah, you made an offensive comment. But you knew that four fucking pages ago. You could have apologized then but you were "having fun".

Do you think anyone here cares about how much swishy men annoy you?

"Straight-bashing?" Boo-fucking-hoo. Welcome to Lit, if you want nice, go to the Playground.

LOL, again, this wasn't sopposed to be anything serious.

If people read the general tone of my posts, of have read my posting on any other thread besides this one, which I was sure some of the people here had, and they still think I'm gay-bashing, they have deeper problems than worrying about me. Get a grip, folks.


Here, let me apologise now: I'm sorry if I stepped on anyone's toes, or made anyone feel offended.

 

[yourdestonie]

Why don't you go sit on the couch in your jockey shorts and watch a football game or something?

and drink more beer.

only if you're in the body bag.

It works under the "Help keep America Beautiful" philosophy.

Johnny, may I suggest you learn the gentle art of shutthefuckup?
If you came in here and were able to scrap one halfway decent thought from that bedpan you call I brain, people would not jump on you.

Yeah, you made an offensive comment. But you knew that four fucking pages ago. You could have apologized then but you were "having fun".

Do you think anyone here cares about how much swishy men annoy you?

"Straight-bashing?" Boo-fucking-hoo. Welcome to Lit, if you want nice, go to the Playground.

Ok I read all the post in thins thread from front to back and thisi is my own opinion.



Why for gosh sakes can't anyone be allowed to be different. Whether it be Gay or straight?


Each of you have posted your thoughts and if you look back over them not one is any better than the last.

every post has bashed one segment of the world or another while all the time trying to get your point across.

Think about it, You want to be accepted for your particular perv (and we all have them or we wouldn't be here) But your not willing to accept someone elses. Don't come back with your wrong I coppied some of your posts just to make this point.

Yes I watch Will & Grace and I laugh at some of it. But to be honest I think most of the gay community would be offended at being portrayed as geeky Sex starved idiots. I know It would make me upset.
Just as it does when I see women portrayed as sluts just because they like sex and talk about it Ie: Sex in the City.
I'm submissive and have to hide it because society looks down on those of us who enjoy that lifestyle. Even some of those communities who Scream acceptance.
Can't we just try to accept all people and let it go. everyone has an opinion and as far as I'm concerned they are entitled to it. and not only that they should be allowed to let everyone knw that opinion. Why should they have to hide that fact just because someone may get offended.

I'm a Straight Whate Female who enjoys being submissive can you guess how many people would look down thier noses at that?

well hows this

Most people no matter their color or origin or sexual perfrence would say Slut

I'd loose my standard of living if it ever got out.

I don't happen to like women in a sexual way so even som of the BDSM community looks down their noses at me because I don't fit their standards of a sub.

Now all that said go back to your respective cornners and think how you have just added to the world of non acceptance.

My grandmother always said Sweep your own door step before you go to sweep someone elses.



Edited to say pardon the spelling I'm just a simple country girl form NC who has dated her cousins for years
(joking)

 

[Never]

It's hard to sell yourself as even handed when you ignore the 'Swishy men annoy me, shut them up' post.

Yourdestonie:
"..every post has bashed one segment of the world or another while all the time trying to get your point across."

Comparing actual gay-bashing to people hurling insults over the internet is in poor taste, in my opinion.

"Think about it, You want to be accepted for your particular perv (and we all have them or we wouldn't be here) But your not willing to accept someone elses."
I don't consider being gay or straight a perversion. Wild idea, I know. Blows the mind.

" Can't we just try to accept all people and let it go. everyone has an opinion and as far as I'm concerned they are entitled to it. and not only that they should be allowed to let everyone knw that opinion. Why should they have to hide that fact just because someone may get offended."

Everyone may voice their opinion at Lit, everyone may tell others their opinion sucks, everyone may tell others that hey don't give a flying leap what others think of their opinion. Yes, if JM make an opinion I disagree with and find offensive, I'll comment on it. Just like you just commented on opinions you disagreed with and, perhaps, found offensive. JM doesn't have to hide his opinion, anymore than you or I or anyone else on this forum has to hide their opinion.

If you want to turn this into a straight/queer issue, you may. I'd disagree. Heck, you could turn it into straight/queer/bdsmer issue if you so desire. Feel free. JM has apologized if he offended anyone and that works for me.

 

[glamorilla]

straight boys who can't take what they dish out are funny.

especially when they pout.

 

[MzChrista]

LOL, again, this wasn't sopposed to be anything serious.

If people read the general tone of my posts, of have read my posting on any other thread besides this one, which I was sure some of the people here had, and they still think I'm gay-bashing, they have deeper problems than worrying about me. Get a grip, folks.


Here, let me apologise now: I'm sorry if I stepped on anyone's toes, or made anyone feel offended.

Well why the fuck didnt you say that on page two and save everybody all that typing?

 

[MzChrista]

Ok I read all the post in thins thread from front to back and thisi is my own opinion.



Why for gosh sakes can't anyone be allowed to be different. Whether it be Gay or straight?


Each of you have posted your thoughts and if you look back over them not one is any better than the last.

every post has bashed one segment of the world or another while all the time trying to get your point across.

Think about it, You want to be accepted for your particular perv (and we all have them or we wouldn't be here) But your not willing to accept someone elses. Don't come back with your wrong I coppied some of your posts just to make this point.

Yes I watch Will & Grace and I laugh at some of it. But to be honest I think most of the gay community would be offended at being portrayed as geeky Sex starved idiots. I know It would make me upset.
Just as it does when I see women portrayed as sluts just because they like sex and talk about it Ie: Sex in the City.
I'm submissive and have to hide it because society looks down on those of us who enjoy that lifestyle. Even some of those communities who Scream acceptance.
Can't we just try to accept all people and let it go. everyone has an opinion and as far as I'm concerned they are entitled to it. and not only that they should be allowed to let everyone knw that opinion. Why should they have to hide that fact just because someone may get offended.

I'm a Straight Whate Female who enjoys being submissive can you guess how many people would look down thier noses at that?

well hows this

Most people no matter their color or origin or sexual perfrence would say Slut

I'd loose my standard of living if it ever got out.

I don't happen to like women in a sexual way so even som of the BDSM community looks down their noses at me because I don't fit their standards of a sub.

Now all that said go back to your respective cornners and think how you have just added to the world of non acceptance.

My grandmother always said Sweep your own door step before you go to sweep someone elses.



Edited to say pardon the spelling I'm just a simple country girl form NC who has dated her cousins for years
(joking)

When somebody who isnt gay comes on a gay message board and starts in about what he doesnt like about gays, things arent all even.
Im not going to buy into the BS that when queers fight back against people who disrespect them they are the same as the jerks who started it.
No offense but I dont think straight people ought to be coming in here and wagging their fingers at us.

 

[Queersetti]

Ok I read all the post in thins thread from front to back and thisi is my own opinion.



Why for gosh sakes can't anyone be allowed to be different. Whether it be Gay or straight?


Each of you have posted your thoughts and if you look back over them not one is any better than the last.

every post has bashed one segment of the world or another while all the time trying to get your point across.

Think about it, You want to be accepted for your particular perv (and we all have them or we wouldn't be here) But your not willing to accept someone elses. Don't come back with your wrong I coppied some of your posts just to make this point.

Yes I watch Will & Grace and I laugh at some of it. But to be honest I think most of the gay community would be offended at being portrayed as geeky Sex starved idiots. I know It would make me upset.
Just as it does when I see women portrayed as sluts just because they like sex and talk about it Ie: Sex in the City.
I'm submissive and have to hide it because society looks down on those of us who enjoy that lifestyle. Even some of those communities who Scream acceptance.
Can't we just try to accept all people and let it go. everyone has an opinion and as far as I'm concerned they are entitled to it. and not only that they should be allowed to let everyone knw that opinion. Why should they have to hide that fact just because someone may get offended.

I'm a Straight Whate Female who enjoys being submissive can you guess how many people would look down thier noses at that?

well hows this

Most people no matter their color or origin or sexual perfrence would say Slut

I'd loose my standard of living if it ever got out.

I don't happen to like women in a sexual way so even som of the BDSM community looks down their noses at me because I don't fit their standards of a sub.

Now all that said go back to your respective cornners and think how you have just added to the world of non acceptance.

My grandmother always said Sweep your own door step before you go to sweep someone elses.



Edited to say pardon the spelling I'm just a simple country girl form NC who has dated her cousins for years
(joking)

I find your post remarkable condescending and offensive.

As never points out, you seem to feel that only the gay posters should be chastised, while ignoring the offensive remarks of the straight posters to which we were reacting.

It is ridiculous to claim that because we reject the idea that we ought to suppress the more flamboyant members of our community we are being unaccepting of straights. The demand was made that gays change to make straight men uncomfortable, and you have twisted our rejection of that ridiculous proposition into intolerance on our part.

What "pervs" are you talking about? Not one of your quotes is an attack on anyone's "pervs", which by the way is an extremely offensive way for a straight person to refer to gay sexuality.

It is not up to you to tell us how we should respond to being attacked. Did your Grandmother have any advice on minding your own fucking business?

 

[Queersetti]

When somebody who isnt gay comes on a gay message board and starts in about what he doesnt like about gays, things arent all even.
Im not going to buy into the BS that when queers fight back against people who disrespect them they are the same as the jerks who started it.
No offense but I dont think straight people ought to be coming in here and wagging their fingers at us.

Didn't you get the memo?

We are supposed to be good little gays and lesbians who look and act and think in a manner that is perfectly indistinguishable from those nice straight people who have so graciously decided that we may live among them as long as we behave ourselves.

 

[yourdestonie]

I find your post remarkable condescending and offensive.

Well when your toes get stepped on it usually hurts.

As never points out, you seem to feel that only the gay posters should be chastised, while ignoring the offensive remarks of the straight posters to which we were reacting.

Actually your wrong I was simply pointing out that they were doing just exactly what they were getting mad at JM for.

It is ridiculous to claim that because we reject the idea that we ought to suppress the more flamboyant members of our community we are being unaccepting of straights.

I'm not sure thats what was being said. I read it to say that JM was offended by those more"Swishy" gay men. I don't think for one min that any one in any community should be held accountable for something others do.

The demand was made that gays change to make straight men uncomfortable, and you have twisted our rejection of that ridiculous proposition into intolerance on our part.

And show me the tollerance. when someone says that another human being would be better off in a body bag, or why don't you go watch the football game and drink your beer. Excuse me but I don't see any difference in a Straight man placing stereo types on gays or gays placing them on Straights. And you will never make me see the difference.

What "pervs" are you talking about? Not one of your quotes is an attack on anyone's "pervs", which by the way is an extremely offensive way for a straight person to refer to gay sexuality.

Oh so you can take offense but he or I can't thats fair I guess and if you'll re read the post I was refering to my own self more than anything.

It is not up to you to tell us how we should respond to being attacked. Did your Grandmother have any advice on minding your own fucking business?

Just as its not up to you to tell JM how he should feel or what he should post. Boy talk about a double standard. And did yours ever tell you that your language was awfull. What gives you the right to tell me what is or isn't my business?

 

[Queersetti]

I find your post remarkable condescending and offensive.

Well when your toes get stepped on it usually hurts.

As never points out, you seem to feel that only the gay posters should be chastised, while ignoring the offensive remarks of the straight posters to which we were reacting.

Actually your wrong I was simply pointing out that they were doing just exactly what they were getting mad at JM for.

It is ridiculous to claim that because we reject the idea that we ought to suppress the more flamboyant members of our community we are being unaccepting of straights.

I'm not sure thats what was being said. I read it to say that JM was offended by those more"Swishy" gay men. I don't think for one min that any one in any community should be held accountable for something others do.

The demand was made that gays change to make straight men uncomfortable, and you have twisted our rejection of that ridiculous proposition into intolerance on our part.

And show me the tollerance. when someone says that another human being would be better off in a body bag, or why don't you go watch the football game and drink your beer. Excuse me but I don't see any difference in a Straight man placing stereo types on gays or gays placing them on Straights. And you will never make me see the difference.

What "pervs" are you talking about? Not one of your quotes is an attack on anyone's "pervs", which by the way is an extremely offensive way for a straight person to refer to gay sexuality.

Oh so you can take offense but he or I can't thats fair I guess and if you'll re read the post I was refering to my own self more than anything.

It is not up to you to tell us how we should respond to being attacked. Did your Grandmother have any advice on minding your own fucking business?

Just as its not up to you to tell JM how he should feel or what he should post. Boy talk about a double standard. And did yours ever tell you that your language was awfull. What gives you the right to tell me what is or isn't my business?

You aren't gay, you are straight. So it isn't up to you to tell gays and lesbians how they ought to react to anything.

You have never posted in this forum before, but you saw fit to come in and criticize the way we reacted to Mayberry's smear against gays. Is there any reason why I, or anyone else, ought to give any weight to your opinion?