George Bush is awesome!

[Guest]

Re: Re: Re: Cartoons

I always wondered how that was spelled - thank you, 'dita!! Do you mind if I add that to my sig line?

Of course I don't mind, Sarahh. Take a look at this for some fun. P.

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

Unfortunately that is all you liberals have is cartoons and bad newspapers.... We have the militarty, congress, and the white house, so you can keep making your cartoons if it makes you feel better. ..

Unfortunately, all we liberals have is a comic book administration and an overawed mainstream media, but by now even timid news anchors with tiny little balls have quit questioning whether the Emperor has no military record, and instead begun to question whether he has any military honor, scruples, or even intelligence.

For those of us who have been scouring foreign news agencies, alternate news sources, and books, in the quest for balanced news coverage it is about BLOODY time!

That some critical analysis is beginning to come from mainstream sources – except for those so deeply on the administration’s pocket that they are breathing through neocon lint – DOES make me feel more hopeful.

What the image purports doesn’t make me feel better, but I had no expectation that I would feel better.

With luck, that might happen later this fall.

 

[Guest]

neocon lint

Brilliant. P.

 

[shereads]

Ladies, please! Language!

I leave the forum for a day and you women go and insult Blarney, who was only trying to point out...um...Let's see. I've given his posts a quick scan to refresh my memory, and I'm not certain what point he was trying to make. Something about there being no need for a draft because there aren't enough dead people yet; only 800 of us, and a few unidentified body parts belonging to the enemy. Except that we're in Iraq for the benefit of the enemy, which is where I become confused. Or is that the other thread? This is confusing, especially for someone who gets too much of her news from newspapers and such.

I'd best take the dog out. Perdita, will you sort this out, please? I ask you, specifically, because my Cuban friend tells me that when reason fails, it sometimes helps to "cut him a new one in Castillian."

I have no idea what she means by that. Perhaps you can interpret.



Best regards,

SR

 

[Guest]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Cartoons

Of course I don't mind, Sarahh. Take a look at this for some fun. P.

Thank you - what a terrific site!

(I always knew Lit was going to open my mind to many new and wondrous things!)



(I never learned some of those words in German class, either!)

 

[Lauren Hynde]

Next time Blarneystoned claims victory, remind me to repost that last post of mine that he chose to ignore completely.

 

[shereads]

Maybe he too is like the wizard of oz, no one see's him.

So apparently this is a lost cause thread now?

AB: The name of the thread is, "George Bush is awesome." You were expecting some other kind of cause?

 

[shereads]

deleted double post

 

[shereads]

Re: On voting

I am not here to sway votes.

And yet, I have a feeling you probably have.



Thank you! We can use all the help we can get.

Next time Blarneystoned claims victory, remind me to repost that last post of mine that he chose to ignore completely.

He was a little premature in announcing the end of active combat. But he looked almost like a real combat pilot in that helmet, didn't he?



"My opponent talks about Social Security like it's some kind of federal program."

~ George W. Bush

 

[amicus]

Perdita is not a gracious lady by any means, hey, Blarney, notice how they do not address the issue? amusing..is it not?

My only wish is that when you called them, 'flighty', that you had added 'flibbertygibbet'..and meant it.

It is not that I wish women would return to raising babies and cooking, from experience, I have learned to keep them away from the kitchen.

amicus with a smile

 

[shereads]

I had a feeling these two would hit it off. Not exactly the Vulcan Mind Meld, but it's nice to see them each have a friend.

"He's all hat and no cowboy." ~ Gov. Ann Richards

 

[Guest]

I chose not to be gracious or ethnically submissive to a bigot who glibly compared Abu Graib to "some mexican bath house". I also have no desire to waste my eloquence on such bigotry. Asshole or pendejo, the language doesn't matter. I grew up stereotyped as a "dirty Mexican", Blarneycabron hit a nerve, obviously thoughtlessly and with prejudice. And while I'm here I'll state that "Amicus" is the most oxymoronic name on Lit.

Perdita

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

Ms P,

Forget the Vulgate Mind Mould.

I've got an URL to the latest ...

FIORE!!!

 

[pop_54]

I chose not to be gracious or ethnically submissive to a bigot who glibly compared Abu Graib to "some mexican bath house". I also have no desire to waste my eloquence on such bigotry. Asshole or pendejo, the language doesn't matter. I grew up stereotyped as a "dirty Mexican", Blarneycabron hit a nerve, obviously thoughtlessly and with prejudice. And while I'm here I'll state that "Amicus" is the most oxymoronic name on Lit.

Perdita

The guy is a total brainless, or should I say 'brain-washed' idiot *P* Darling, just put him on virtual ignore as I have done... and Lauren you're wasting your time looking for an answer to something a drunken Irishman hasn't told him about yet.

As for the other character *P* lover one, maybe just drop the 'oxy' when referring to that one.

pops

 

[shereads]

I chose not to be gracious or ethnically submissive to a bigot who glibly compared Abu Graib to "some mexican bath house". I also have no desire to waste my eloquence on such bigotry. Asshole or pendejo, the language doesn't matter. I grew up stereotyped as a "dirty Mexican", Blarneycabron hit a nerve, obviously thoughtlessly and with prejudice. And while I'm here I'll state that "Amicus" is the most oxymoronic name on Lit.

It was Blarney's turn to reveal himself for what he really is, Perdita. Amicus was easier, because he doesn't mind admittiing he's a bigot. This one had to be coaxed out.

You've done a service. There was a gullible but well-meaning college kid following BS around like a puppy. Maybe now he'll see this White-Like-Me, Arabs-Are-All-Alike pseudo-patriotism for what it really is.

There's enough racism and misogeny in the real world. We don't have to volunteer to look at it in our spare time.

 

[shereads]

Ms P,

Forget the Vulgate Mind Mould.

I've got an URL to the latest ...

FIORE!!!

Stay the course.

 

[shereads]

Re: Amicus

...but they dont realize they have too many views

Note to fellow Democrats: reduce number of views.







Priceless.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Ms P,

Forget the Vulgate Mind Mould.

I've got an URL to the latest ...

FIORE!!!

LOL,

I thought I was the only Fiore fan at lit. Just in case you don't know Burley he has his own site, with all his back dated flash work and a new one every Thursday

-Colly

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Perdita is not a gracious lady by any means, hey, Blarney, notice how they do not address the issue? amusing..is it not?

My only wish is that when you called them, 'flighty', that you had added 'flibbertygibbet'..and meant it.

It is not that I wish women would return to raising babies and cooking, from experience, I have learned to keep them away from the kitchen.

amicus with a smile

I usually argue facts with you Amicus. Specifically, I deconstruct your arguments when you miscite historic fact. By and large, I do not attack your opinions, except where you choose to rest them on miscited historic fact.

Perdita is quite gracious and is a very sweet and kind lady. And I use the word lady, very rarely, because it has a very strong connotation to me of gentility and class. She has it.

For someone who continually preaches proud to be an American, I find it very strange that you would take exception to someone who is proud to be of Mexican heritage and took exception to someone sluring that heritage.

-Colly

 

[Guest]

Perdita is not a gracious lady by any means, hey, Blarney, notice how they do not address the issue? amusing..is it not?

My only wish is that when you called them, 'flighty', that you had added 'flibbertygibbet'..and meant it.

It is not that I wish women would return to raising babies and cooking, from experience, I have learned to keep them away from the kitchen.

amicus with a smile

Yes, she is. Apparently you have never met a lady.

But I have to chuckle at the rest of this post. First, because Blarney has never addressed a particular issue. Ever. Instead of rationally arguing a point he prefers to discuss himself "taking rounds" (as if he's a doctor, not a med-tech) and as if we cannot understand the supreme sacrifice he makes in his life.

Please.

As for you, your pathetic attempt to get a rise out of the women on this forum is ludicrous and simple-minded. You think you can toss out a few bigoted words and have us squabbling? By now we know you too well, so we realize arguing with you is futile.

That's the thing about bigots. Their minds are already made up.

Never try and teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.

 

[cantdog]

I am awed. Remind me never to deserve Sher's contempt. His posts just leave me with a weariness, now, and I lost all gumption to deal with it, but Sher was there, and Perdita was magnificent as usual.



ear for P; ear and a tail for Sher

 

[shereads]

LOL,

I thought I was the only Fiore fan at lit. Just in case you don't know Burley he has his own site, with all his back dated flash work and a new one every Thursday

-Colly

He's one of the reasons I subscribe to Salon. The other reason is that I'm too impatient to sit through the commercial they make you watch if you use the site for free.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

He's one of the reasons I subscribe to Salon. The other reason is that I'm too impatient to sit through the commercial they make you watch if you use the site for free.

I check out Salon ocasionally, but I check his sight pretty close to religiously. He can get his point across, but do so in a way that makes you laugh as well as think

-Colly

 

[amicus]

POSTED BY ABSTRUSE....

It's obvious from the amount of pages surmounted in this thread, that people have spoken, opinions have been voiced, yet, I have found my question unanswered.

Plainly put:
What happens to me, the average, lower income family of four mom?
How is Mr. Bush going to help me?

I'm out of work, will new jobs be generated?

I have no health insurance as of now?How do I pay for my meds and see a doctor? Don't even tell me the welfare system will help, that is the biggest fallacy going.

How is he going to improve education when he is making budget cuts there?

Frankly I'm not concerned with rebuilding Iraq right now, I want to know how I'm going to make it through the year like many other Americans are wondering.

So please tell me why I should give him a vote?

~A~actually being serious for once

Hello A...assuming that you are as you said above...

The first thing you need to acknowledge is that Government cannot create jobs.

Government is the guy or gal you elect to the City Council in your own home town. That person, chosen by a majority of your neighbors goes to work in an office built by your money, in a building built by your money on land purchased by your money.

You pay for that persons computer and electricity and printer ink and phone bill..you pay it all out of your income, large or small.

That person, in that office has a book of rules and regulations, that you created and approved, that both dictates and limits what that person can do as your representative.

That person, acting through that book of rules, is authorized to spend your money to fix the pot holes in the streets and keep the sewer system running.

In other words, those, 'common use' aspects of your city/state/nation.

Your first question was about jobs/work/employment. Productive work is created by the creation/manufacture of goods and services that people wish to have and will pay for.

A farmer grows a watermelon, you want one. There is a job for those that pick the melon, another job for the trucker that transports it and more jobs at the market where you buy the melon. That one little watermelon you bought helped pay the salaries and wages of everyone who contributed to getting that melon on your plate.

The whole system is called 'free enterprise' a 'free' market place where people can exchange goods and services as they choose, without interference or being forced to pay tribute to a local war lord.

Your second question was about health care.

Apply the same principle as above, supply and demand. View 'health care' as a commodity, to be bought and sold by those who supply the service, (Doctors and Nurses) and those who want to purchase that service.

In a free market place, the supply will meet the demand, all things being equal.

That system fails when when it is manipulated or controlled.

When the Medical field limits the number of Doctors that are 'permitted' to graduate from medical schools and not enough doctors are there to provide service, then the 'price' of their service increases.

Medical providers can be as corrupt as building trade unionists and others. Guilds and Unions purposely limit the supply of their services to keep the price high.

Education must be viewed in the same manner; education is a commodity like any other service.

Politicians are not farmers or doctors or teachers. Your public servant, your mayor, your state or federal elected official, is most likely trained in the field of Law..most likely an attorney.

I know...that is very simplistic and you already know all of that.

In any society where those sources of goods and services are regulated and managed and manipulated by those 'lawyers' you elected to serve, there will be shortages, shoddy service and inferior products. That is the 'curse' of a 'command economy' where government directs the flow of goods and services instead of the market place.

Of course things are not as easy to understand here in the 21st century, it was easier in the time of Adam Smith in a more agrarian society and a slower pace.

There is very little an individual can do in a corrupt system to affect change. In politics, the 'left' desire to control, more or less, all aspects of your life; the right, more or less, desires to protect your freedom to choose as you wish.

The best you can do, in this country, where you have a 'right' to have your voice heard, is to support those who advocate a free society.

Good luck....amicus (the oxymoron moron)

 

[shereads]

This "newspaper" thing could catch on. ~ SR

U.S. Troops Moving From S. Korea to Iraq
3,600 to Leave in Shift of Defense Plan

By Josh White
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, May 18, 2004; Page A15


The Pentagon is moving 3,600 U.S. troops from South Korea to Iraq this summer, a shift that highlights the stress on the U.S. Army and promises a significant change in the way the United States helps defend the Korean peninsula.

Defense Department officials announced yesterday their plan to send the 2nd Brigade of the Army's 2nd Infantry Division to Iraq within the next few months to help deal with festering security problems there. The move will deplete U.S. forces in South Korea by nearly 10 percent, the first major shift of resources out of the country in decades.

Pentagon officials stressed yesterday that the move should not be viewed as a sign of waning commitment to protecting Seoul from a North Korean attack, but some members of Congress expressed concern and some experts said it showed the U.S. Army is stretched dangerously thin.

The Pentagon is dipping into forces protecting a volatile region dominated by concern over North Korea's nuclear ambitions, and members of Congress yesterday predicted U.S. troops would be diverted to Iraq from other parts of the globe over the next year. Defense officials had estimated earlier they would drop U.S. forces in Iraq to about 115,000 by summer, but U.S. generals have asked to keep about 138,000 troops there at least through next year.

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