George Santos

[coati]

Except for the Dems who still say Biden is a mentally competent president doing a great job. Unless they really believe that.

Gimme a break. An incompetent president would not be able to pass all the legislation that Biden got in his first two years.

Your false equivalencies between Biden and Trump/Santos are typical Fox News crap.

 

[Dribble]

Such as ..... Jefferson Davis?

You try and try...but fail each time.

 

[Dribble]

Gimme a break. An incompetent president would not be able to pass all the legislation that Biden got in his first two years.

Your false equivalencies between Biden and Trump/Santos are typical Fox News crap.

So...the fluff they passed is worth more than the Rights taken. Nice

 

[KeithD]

Biden isn't a low-bar president. More consumer-supporting legislation has been passed and put into effect already in his presidency than in most--and this despite having to recover from a pandemic as well, not to mention in the face of a total failure in handing a functioning government over to him and the first coup attempt in American history since the Civil War--this time by the sitting president. Despite all of the challenges the economy is recovering well and is the most solid one in the world. The only suggestion of low-bar is being made by partisan hacks who are lying through their teeth in an effort to fool the not too bright (like Dribble perhaps?)

 

[Bray123]

So...the fluff they passed is worth more than the Rights taken. Nice

It would have been better if the right to have an abortion hadn't been all but taken, but that wasn't the fault of Biden.

 

[jomar]

So...the fluff they passed is worth more than the Rights taken. Nice

What rights have they taken?

 

[coati]

Biden isn't a low-bar president. More consumer-supporting legislation has been passed and put into effect already in his presidency than in most--and this despite having to recover from a pandemic as well, not to mention in the face of a total failure in handing a functioning government over to him and the first coup attempt in American history since the Civil War--this time by the sitting president. Despite all of the challenges the economy is recovering well and is the most solid one in the world. The only suggestion of low-bar is being made by partisan hacks who are lying through their teeth in an effort to fool the not too bright (like Dribble perhaps?)

From what I've observed, Dribble is like a spoiled teenager who sits around the house pouting about the world not meeting his expectations, rather than doing something constructive about it. Chernosoth is similar.

It's so easy and convenient to be a smug cynic, whose only task is to discover what is wrong with every elected government representative. Cynics absolve themselves of doing the hard work. Their stock and trade are false equivalencies, spreading pessimism, and constant whining. They promote self-fulfilling prophesies, because they would rather be "right" than do the hard work to make the world a better place.

With so little positive vision and no personal initiative, they are generally socially isolated. Cynical smugness is not an endearing personality trait. The best way to recover from this predicament is to shut off your electronic device and voluntarily start helping to make the world better.

 

[coati]

Making the world a better place would be farther off topic for this thread, but could be the topic of a new thread, especially later this year when geopolitical events move the Overton window of what is better and what is possible.

Here are some Mark Twain quotes about Congress:
“Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.”
“Fleas can be taught nearly anything that a Congressman can.”
“An honest man in politics shines more there than he would elsewhere.”
“There is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress.”
“All Congresses and Parliaments have a kindly feeling for idiots, and a compassion for them, on account of personal experience and heredity.”

^^^Cute quotes, be we do live in the land of what's possible, not what's perfect. That's the whole reason why we have to distinguish between typical political posturing and outright pathological lying. Now more than ever we should be recognizing that there is a vast difference between the two.

Donald Trump and George Santos have gone way off the scale for lying. They represent the same degree of lying that Putin and other despots use to stay in power. This thread is about pathological liars.

 

[phrodeau]

Here are some Mark Twain quotes about Congress:

Another guy using a fake name.

 

[jaF0]

^^ The orange turd lied his ass off saying whatever he thought he needed to to get the support of the stupid, ignorant and incompetent.

He's a nothing but a con man, a carnival barker spewing nonsense to get fools into the tent.

'There behind the glass is a real blade of grass.'

 

[KeithD]

Trump had enormous working class support

Only because of the stupidity and gullibility of the aggregated "working class." There hasn't been a damn thing Trump actually has done to better the working class. And he's not part of the working class. He's in the con artist class.

 

[butters]

and there were plenty of "working class" people who did not, nor ever would, vote for trump. to lump all in in some notion of working class people being dumb as a rock is a gross distortion of reality.

 

[coati]

Trump had enormous working class support and still has some because he was more honest than the rest of the field in both parties. His various lies were ignored or forgotten as trivial because he listened to what people wanted and delivered on enough of his promises.

Another total load of crap. ^^^

Trump's base, the ones who show up at his rallies, include lots of people who like him because he stokes their anger and fears. This is the cheapest trick in the book for despots and wannabe despots.

And, he did not "deliver" anything that would help what you call the "working class", other than giving them permission to lash out and cause increasing conflict in society. He was the worst and most damaging President in American history, and you are dumb enough to call him "more honest than the rest of the field in both parties".

 

[Fuzzy1975]

That is common in history, someone outside the establishment rising to power to make necessary and inevitable changes. There is still plenty more to do, so we may see someone you despise more than Trump.

And I am sure an idiot like yourself will be more than happy to vote them into the highest office. Right?

 

[phrodeau]

Remember Acorn, and the outrage over volunteers collecting fake names for voter registration cards?

We’re learning that George Santos collected campaign funds from donors using fake names, which is actually against the law.

https://www.motherjones.com/politic...santos-2020-campaign-many-dont-seem-to-exist/

 

[dkovic77]

Remember Acorn, and the outrage over volunteers collecting fake names for voter registration cards?

We’re learning that George Santos collected campaign funds from donors using fake names, which is actually against the law.

https://www.motherjones.com/politic...santos-2020-campaign-many-dont-seem-to-exist/

It’s always follow the money, in every case.

 

[VinnyVeritas]

Another total load of crap. ^^^

Trump's base, the ones who show up at his rallies, include lots of people who like him because he stokes their anger and fears. This is the cheapest trick in the book for despots and wannabe despots.

And, he did not "deliver" anything that would help what you call the "working class", other than giving them permission to lash out and cause increasing conflict in society. He was the worst and most damaging President in American history, and you are dumb enough to call him "more honest than the rest of the field in both parties".

This is spoken like a person who has spent a life eschewing anything resembling blue-collar work and denigrating blue-collar workers (who make a heck of a lot more money than coati&Co).

Is it envy or arrogance unearned?

 

[coati]

This is spoken like a person who has spent a life eschewing anything resembling blue-collar work and denigrating blue-collar workers (who make a heck of a lot more money than coati&Co).

Is it envy or arrogance unearned?

^^^Just when you think a MAGAt can't get any more disconnected from reality, a post like this appears.

You know nothing about my work background, and your implication that Trump represents blue collar values is beyond absurd.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

^^^Just when you think a MAGAt can't get any more disconnected from reality, a post like this appears.

You know nothing about my work background, and your implication that Trump represents blue collar values is beyond absurd.

What was it again that Trump said? Something about loving the poorly educated, or some such drivel....

 

[coati]

What was it again that Trump said? Something about loving the poorly educated, or some such drivel....

I would love to see his lard ass climbing an extension ladder. But most of all, I'd love to see him "raking the forests" while wearing an orange jump suit.

The remarkable thing is that he cons people of all work backgrounds. The only requirement for his con is that you must be resentful. A lot of the guys I've worked with on various projects fit that profile, which is why Trump's con gets results at the ballot box.

 

[butters]

santos decides to step away from his committee seats just till things are resolved, but leaves seats reserved to return to:

Roger Williams, the chair of the Small Business Committee, said Santos left the door open to returning to the committees “when there comes a point he is not an issue anymore.”

“He kind of set the rules in there. I mean, we were all listening,” Williams said after the GOP meeting.

Santos has been under fire at home, with Republicans in New York calling for his resignation. Almost eight in 10 voters in Santos’s district, which covers northern Nassau County and parts of Queens in New York City, want him to resign, according to a Newsday/Sienna College poll conducted Jan. 23-26. Only 7% of his constituents view him favorably.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...pc=U531&cvid=67c91e55e2d74691dae57a6b0022edbc

so, the result of backdoor dealings with mccarthy, where mccarthy retains santos' vote for the potential return to the assignments once the heat's been deliberately doused and the ethics committee doesn't find he did anything too bad? with this temporary thing, would i be right to assume he's still drawing any extra pay/perks of being on those committees whilst not having to do the work?

 

[Rightguide]

It's the voter's responsibility to know more about the merits of the candidate than just the latter after their name.

They were probably more worried about the Democrat he was running against and accepted a liar as opposed to a another Communist.

 

[Rightguide]

Recall of federal officials​

The United States Constitution does not provide for recall of any elected federal official. The option was considered during the drafting of the document in 1787, but was not included in the final version. Some state constitutions have stated the right of citizens to recall their members of the United States Congress, but whether it is constitutionally legal at the federal level has not been yet been ruled upon by the United States Supreme Court. One of the closest noted legal precedent is U.S. Term Limits, Inc. v. Thornton, in which the Supreme Court decided that states did not have the right to impose new terms, qualifications, or conditions of service on federal officials.[2]

Some states have released opinions and rulings on recall of members of the U.S. Congress. Attorney generals in Arkansas (2010), Louisiana (2009), Kansas (1994), Nevada (1978), and Oregon (1935) all issued opinions against the recall of federal officials. Conversely, the Attorney General of Wisconsin in 1979 give an opinion that state administration could not reject a petition for recall of a member of the U.S. Congress. In 2010, the Supreme Court of New Jersey ruled against federal recall and the Supreme Court of North Dakota also upheld an opinion by the state's attorney general against federal recall. Michigan courts stopped a recall petition against a member of Congress in 2007. A federal court in 1967 dismissed a case from Idaho where petitioners hoped to require the state to accept petitions seeking recall of a U.S. Senator.

https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_governing_recall_in_New_York

They can be expelled however by a two-thirds vote, See Article I Section 5. There have been 5 such expulsions in US House history, all Democrats.

 

[jaF0]

No idea as to the credibility of this site ....

Stefanik Was Once 'Laser Focused on Electing Santos' - Now She Blames Voters for Electing Him as She Backs Away​

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/ip3/www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com.icoThe New Civil Rights Movement|56 minutes ago
Elise Stefanik (R-NY), used her reputation and geographic proximity to help get fellow New York Republican George Santos elected to Congress. But now, as her donors and his express anger at being misled and lied to, and ahead of what appears to be a likely ...

 

[KeithD]

I think it's a great aide for Democrats and for anyone who wants to demonstrate the clown car performance of the Republicans in Congress that George stay around being George and Keven McCarthy stay around supporting George being George.