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Makes a huge difference...
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Makes a huge difference...
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As an all around survival weapon. From wilderness survival to urban infrastructure collapse SHTFWFTOMG survival. The reason I ask is that I have herd others say they would rather have a .22, shotgun, or combo of the two for survival and I can see why. However I am a bit paranoid and would want something that would offer a little more versatility in the way of defense against larger threats man or beast as well as slightly larger game. But I can see the downside of not being able to hunt avian game, or the smaller more prolific game. So is the trade off really better one way or another?
IDK...a shot gun or shot gun/22 comb is a mighty handy tool but if you were to run into say a pissed off moose or some deliverance type shit a few 30 rnd mags of 5.56mm starts sounding really good.
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Some survival situations demand the ability for a New York reload. Others, don't.
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A pissed off moose can aptly be handled with a .357 mag provided you have guts enough to let the distance close. My M-I-L dispatched a nice bull with a single shot, once.
People, are more of a PITA.
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If I were to be stuck with just one gun it would be a 12 ga. pump gun in modified choke with a nice selection of loadings. And, if possible, a couple of interchangeable barrels of various lengths to accommodate different situations. Not the perfect solution, but if you practice real hard and take your time it'll certainly get most jobs done.
Remember, the old time guards didn't 'ride pistol', and they didn't 'ride rifle.' There is a reason.
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Good choice.......
My grab-it gun is a Browning BPS Tactical. It'll get small game with some 7 1/2 shot. But it's loaded with Brenneke Black Magic slugs.
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I think it's double action, but in any case, why the preference?
I've asked this question in a few different ways several times on here. Variants of "If you could only own a single gun..?"
Ish's answer has not only been consistent over the years, but is also representative of the consensus. Nearly everyone said a 12-ga with various options:
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Add another experienced and knowledgeable voice that lives in a place where these things might be reality on a given day to the consensus.
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Save me the arduous search. What was that 7mm that you said was your favorite rifle?
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An excellent choice!
I got a nice deal on the BPS it's nice and smooth, plus, it's bottom eject. That's nice when several folk might need to use it.
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As long as they're not standing under a window they're trying to shoot into.
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It's not like it's a semi-auto that blows the empties out......
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True, and plastic doesn't hold the heat. I had a shell casing dive down my collar ONCE in my time in the guard.
I noticed we had the barrel of the .284 heated up pretty well the other day.
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You need to go to Perry in August.......
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Uh...what?
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like that ice cube guy?
Your mother in law sounds bad ass.
Good point, shotguns are pretty winning in most situations.
Thanks for the input guys...gave me a few things to think about.
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Camp Perry, Ohio.......
High Power Championships are in early august......
some hot barrels, there
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Divorce yourself from the .223. I love it, too, but that's our military background talking.
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I have a good friend who used a mini-14 in .223 for hunting blacktails on Admiralty Is. He's got huge balls.
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Oh, that's right, you told me. I need to practice a bit for that one. Something tells me an eight inch group at fifty meters isn't qualifying...
I have more questions for everyone:
1) Recoil pads. How much difference do they make? I'm okay with the .284 as is, but I noticed them in the store today and found myself wondering if one would make a big difference or not.
2) Reloading. .284 is fucking expensive, and Lady P and I got to talking about how we wished it wasn't so we could both shoot a lot more and get better, but it's an investment. So what's the initial outlay and how difficult and what's the savings?
3) I guess in the same line, to what extent is there crossover proficiency? If we both practice a lot with something cheap, can we expect to get better with that specific rifle? Seems like we should; I'm a better shot than her or the two friends who I've shot it with, and I can only think that's from so many rounds of .223 over the years. Or it's possible I'm some sort of idiot-savant, I guess.
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Did he have friends with cannons? That's nutty.
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He goes by himself.........
He's a very experienced woodsman, but fuck, there's a lot of big brown rats on that island.....
In WWII, a couple POW's escaped and CAME BACK the next day!
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