Hey, gun nuts!

[Peregrinator]

Got a couple new additions to report.

Iver Johnson break action single shot 12 ga

S&W 686 SSR in .357.

The shottie was used and cheap at my local, and I finally found a .357 that seemed like the right size and felt good in my hand. Haven't fired the pistol yet. The shottie is light, but I put a decent leather recoil pad on and one of these days I'll get around to the teap range again and see what I can do with it.

 

[junk_yard]

Lookin' for a new auto loader shotgun... any recommendations?

 

[Ishmael]

Got a couple new additions to report.

Iver Johnson break action single shot 12 ga

S&W 686 SSR in .357.

The shottie was used and cheap at my local, and I finally found a .357 that seemed like the right size and felt good in my hand. Haven't fired the pistol yet. The shottie is light, but I put a decent leather recoil pad on and one of these days I'll get around to the teap range again and see what I can do with it.

Just picked up a rem. 870 in 12 ga.

Lookin' for a new auto loader shotgun... any recommendations?

Remington 1100. Look at any gas operated shotgun, the recoil operated guns are OK, but annoying to shoot.

Ishmael

 

[Que]

Just picked up a rem. 870 in 12 ga.



Remington 1100. Look at any gas operated shotgun, the recoil operated guns are OK, but annoying to shoot.

Ishmael

In my limited experience I think that is the problem with the one I had. I had an old Remington Sportsman 48. It was basically a single shot gun. Stove-piped empty shells a lot.

The recoil on the Remington reminded me of the forward recoil on my single pump 1100fps RWS Diana air rifle, I mis that gun it was fun to plink with.

I shot my friend's Browning that I thought had a similar action. Back then I was only marginally aware that there were manual feed and automatic shotguns and had no idea about either. It may have been gas operated though. It was smooth and reliable.

 

[Ishmael]

In my limited experience I think that is the problem with the one I had. I had an old Remington Sportsman 48. It was basically a single shot gun. Stove-piped empty shells a lot.

The recoil on the Remington reminded me of the forward recoil on my single pump 1100fps RWS Diana air rifle, I mis that gun it was fun to plink with.

I shot my friend's Browning that I thought had a similar action. Back then I was only marginally aware that there were manual feed and automatic shotguns and had no idea about either. It may have been gas operated though. It was smooth and reliable.

The old Browning A-5 (hump-back) was recoil operated. And actually wasn't too bad for a recoil gun. The new Maxus is gas operated.

Ishmael

 

[Que]

I just remembered that on a shelf in the temporary quarters I have been squatting in, hereafter called the hideout, I found 1974 and 1977 editions of Gun Digest. No idea why he would have had them.

Don't see my gun in it, but I am loving the prices as leaf through 1977.

An engraved Benelli for $545.25

Remington 1100 Magnum with ventrib $289.95 Add another $5 for left-handed model.

ETA:

Pre-Jimmy Carter Prices:

No Bellini listed but the Remington went for $234.95 and the left-handed model you only ad $4.

 

[Que]

The old Browning A-5 (hump-back) was recoil operated. And actually wasn't too bad for a recoil gun. The new Maxus is gas operated.

Ishmael

Just looked up the A5 and it looks too blocky to have been the one I shot. There is a '77 A5 model that looks similar though. His would have been fairly new in about 1994ish.

 

[richard_daily]

Lookin' for a new auto loader shotgun... any recommendations?

Just picked up a rem. 870 in 12 ga.



Remington 1100. Look at any gas operated shotgun, the recoil operated guns are OK, but annoying to shoot.

Ishmael

Absolutely not an 1100.. Way too many parts on breakdown to lose/bend/damage.

Go with something simple in design, without a ton of little parts that fall out on take-down.

I like the russian imports, but that's personal preference. If you don't know how to do simple modifications, go with a vepr 12. mag/fed.

Otherwise, Benelli m4, but you're going to pay actual money for it.

 

[contrifan32]

Lookin' for a new auto loader shotgun... any recommendations?

You may want to look at the Beretta A400 series. I believe it is very close to the A 302 which I have owned for over 20 years and use often. It is the more reliable, well made, light weight and easy to maintain firearm I own.

 

[osprey44]

Stoeger M3000

 

[snugglestruggle]

I'm considering buying a single shot 12ga. They're readily available and under $100 .

 

[Ishmael]

Remington 1100. Look at any gas operated shotgun, the recoil operated guns are OK, but annoying to shoot.

Ishmael

Absolutely not an 1100.. Way too many parts on breakdown to lose/bend/damage.

Go with something simple in design, without a ton of little parts that fall out on take-down.

I like the russian imports, but that's personal preference. If you don't know how to do simple modifications, go with a vepr 12. mag/fed.

Otherwise, Benelli m4, but you're going to pay actual money for it.

See what was emboldened in my original post?

There's nothing wrong with the 1100 and you don't have to field strip it after every outing. It has accessories and barrel options out the ass at reasonable prices. Has been around forever.........tried and true design. But if it's not your cup of tea.........sobeit. Like I said, look at any gas operated auto-loader.

My preference has always been pump guns. I like the Rem. 870, robust, proven design, tons of accessories and barrel choices. For lefties the Ithaca 37 is probably the best choice (unless money is no object).

Ishmael

 

[Ishmael]

Oh, I forgot.

I recently acquired a new Rem. 1911 R1. During WWII Remington built the 1911A1 under license from colt. Consequently they had (have) all the tooling and have begun manufacturing the pistol again. In every respect the pistol is a carbon copy of the 1911A1 save two changes. The sights have been upgraded to 3-dot sights, far superior to the military sights. And the feed ramp has been opened up so the pistol will swallow semi-wad cutters without feeding problems. The pistol was dead on accurate right out of the box (I was shooting 185gr. semi-wad cutters) without a single failure to function.

The pistols have been regularly coming on sale at Sportsman's Warehouse in the $450 range (after rebate) as opposed to the $650+ MSRP.

If you've ever wanted a 1911 I highly recommend this pistol.

Ishmael

 

[trysail]

8-ga, side by side, boxlock with twin hammers.

Inscribed:
W. R. Pape
Newcastle-on-Tyne
Winner of the London Gun Trials 1858, 1859 and 1866



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[Ishmael]

8-ga, side by side, boxlock with twin hammers.

Inscribed:
W. R. Pape
Newcastle-on-Tyne
Winner of the London Gun Trials 1858, 1859 and 1866



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An expensive wall-hanger indeed.

Ishmael

 

[Ishmael]

On another note I recently did some work on a friends Rem. 770. This particular rifle was in 270 cal., but they're all essentially the same so the following impressions apply.

Don't waste your money, even as inexpensive as it is.

First of all the positives. It is capable of taking game up to 200 yds. and it's cheap. (Which falls under the heading of "you get what you pay for.)

The rifle, off the shelf, comes with a Bushnell 3x9 scope. Bushnell makes some excellent optics, this is not one. Sighting the rifle in was tedious. I soon found that if you wanted to move the point of impact in any direction you had to 'over-turn' the scope adjustments. ie. If you wanted to move the poi 1 inch to the left, you had to make an adjustment 1 1/2 to the left then turn the adjustment 1/2 back to the right. Otherwise the scope did not make the full movement required. An expensive pain in the ass to learn. (Factory ammo is a little over a buck a shot.) There is no adjustment for parallax.

Trigger pull. Trigger pull was like trying to slowly drag sand paper over sand paper. I'd settle in and start my squeeze. And squeeze. And squeeze some more. [Yoda voice]Crisp is was not.[/Yoda voice]

Bolt. The bolt is sloppy and binding is not all that uncommon. Don't count on a rapid second shot.

Magazine. First of all the magazine is symmetrical. It can be inserted in the rifle backwards. As a matter of fact the reason I came to be working on the rifle to begin with is that the owners brother inserted the magazine backwards and jammed it. To remove the magazine required the disassembly of the rifle. And then the repair of the magazine. Even so I have no confidence in the magazine.

Stock to action fit. The stock is synthetic, not altogether bad. It has two unsupported recoil/assembly bolts with a steel wafer at the fore-end of the receiver to absorb the recoil. The stock is not bedded or relieved. Along the length of the barrel to stock contact length there was over 13 thousand of an inh difference.

Accuracy. I was shooting factory ammo, Rem. 150 gr. core-lokt. The best I could do from a bench rest was a little better than 2 moa at 100 yds. As a comparison my Mauser action 25-06 will shoot .6 moa at the same range. I have a Marlin 336 in 35 Rem. that will shoot tighter groups from a bench rest. With some work it will probably tighten up, but hardly worth the money you'd have to pay a gunsmith to get you there. You'd have been better off buying a better gun.

Thumbs down on this one.

Ishmael

 

[contrifan32]

See what was emboldened in my original post?

There's nothing wrong with the 1100 and you don't have to field strip it after every outing. It has accessories and barrel options out the ass at reasonable prices. Has been around forever.........tried and true design. But if it's not your cup of tea.........sobeit. Like I said, look at any gas operated auto-loader.
Ishmael

It also makes a great club that you can bludgeon just about anything on 2 or 4 legs if you run out of rounds

 

[thør]

A hipster's guide

Guns are bad

 

[oggbashan]

Boys Anti-Tank Rifle as a sniper's weapon

In my recent Halloween story, the hero uses his familiar WW2 Lee-Enfield as a sniper's arm.

One of the comments suggests that a Boys Anti-Tank Rifle would be a more effective sniper's weapon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boys_anti-tank_rifle

My hero was riding pillion on a horse with his rifle slung. I don't think that would be feasible with a Boys. As far as I know there is no record of a Boys being used as a sniper's arm.

Picture is of Finnish Army carrying Boys for use against light-skinned Russian tanks in 1940.

http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/imgs/boys-antitank-rifle_3.jpg

Or do you know different? I'm discounting the US Marine on Makin Island of the Pacific Theater. He was shooting at a seaplane, not as a sniper.

Any evidence for a sniper choosing a Boys?

 

[Peregrinator]

Just picked up a rem. 870 in 12 ga.





Ishmael

First gun I ever owned. Thor's recommendation. I love it. Mine came with a rifled barrel and a longer smoothbore with a rib. I got a short smoothbore for it, a folding stock, tactical forend, and a pistol grip. I love it for when people talk about outlawing what I've come to call ZOMGSKEERYARMYLOOKINGGUNZ. Same goddam gun with different furniture.


Also got the .357 to the range finally. Shoots like a dream, way more accurate than I am...so far. 150 rounds through it and no soreness from the recoil. Smooth like butter. I love this gun.

 

[Ishmael]

First gun I ever owned. Thor's recommendation. I love it. Mine came with a rifled barrel and a longer smoothbore with a rib. I got a short smoothbore for it, a folding stock, tactical forend, and a pistol grip. I love it for when people talk about outlawing what I've come to call ZOMGSKEERYARMYLOOKINGGUNZ. Same goddam gun with different furniture.


Also got the .357 to the range finally. Shoots like a dream, way more accurate than I am...so far. 150 rounds through it and no soreness from the recoil. Smooth like butter. I love this gun.

This is my third 870. I have another in 12 bore and a 20 bore Featherweight that is one of the best upland bird guns I've ever shot. If you can find a 20 bore Featherweight.........buy it.

In any event, exactly what you described is the future for the latest acquisition.

Ishmael

 

[oggbashan]

Big scary... Camera

This is one of my cameras:

http://tomtiger.home.xs4all.nl/zenit/cover_b.jpg

http://www.millersantiquesguide.com/uploads/ImageRoot/medium/040424ATK_0127.jpg

It caused consternation when I was carrying it near a Defence Establishment.

 

[Ishmael]

This is one of my cameras:

http://tomtiger.home.xs4all.nl/zenit/cover_b.jpg

http://www.millersantiquesguide.com/uploads/ImageRoot/medium/040424ATK_0127.jpg

It caused consternation when I was carrying it near a Defence Establishment.

Looks SCARY!!!! *chuckle*

Ishmael

 

[oggbashan]

Looks SCARY!!!! *chuckle*

Ishmael

According to an urban legend it was designed and made at the request of the KGB.

 

[Ishmael]

According to an urban legend it was designed and made at the request of the KGB.

"Assault Camera."

Ishmael