Hey, gun nuts!

[richard_daily]

Thanks for the info... I like the Lee Precision Classic Turret Press Kit from Amazon for just over $200. That will work for the 9mm and .44.
As for the shotgun, I do shoot at least 4 rounds of skeet at each outing... often more. BTW, just bought the Beretta a300... fit my budget nicely. The 600 JR Mark V looks good... I buy "Estate" 2 3/4 bt $5 - $6 a box of 25, from Bi Mart here in Oregon... no break for case lots... don't know what the savings would be... still investigating.

I have a MEC 600, and it's a lot of fun to use, just a little slow. With 12g birdshot being so cheap, I'd probably recommend only using it for buckshot.

Unless you're going to shoot thousands of rounds of .44 mag, a single stage press is probably adequate for what you're doing. But if you're considering loading 9mm as well, then a multi-stage is definitely worth considering.

I would personally suggest starting cheap/small, and seeing how you like it before investing $700-800 in a nice multi-stage.

 

[richard_daily]

Fair enough, a short stroke AK. Still a 7.62 x 39 and still Czech.

I wonder when the UK is going to start reversing it's immigration policies?

Ishmael

VZs have completely different internals. I believe these don't have a piston like a standard AK, and the bolt carrier is more like an SKS (rectangular and flat, 2 pieces).

 

[BotanyBoy]

The Skorpian is the main reason I was considering getting an NFA trust set up. Definitely want one of those.

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[Ishmael]

VZs have completely different internals. I believe these don't have a piston like a standard AK, and the bolt carrier is more like an SKS (rectangular and flat, 2 pieces).

Yup, and they have a little higher cyclic rate of fire. The practical rate of fire is about the same though.

Ishmael

 

[Ishmael]

Soooo, I just finished reloading 300 rds. of 45 ACP. I'm really liking this new press. In the past, with my ole RCBS Rock Chucker the time would be more on the order of 40 rds per fortnight. Hell, and I could do it while farting around on the board without missing a stroke. (Someone is going to bite on that line, wanna start a pool?)

Setting up to do a few hundred 5.56 now. (5.56 is probably a 'key word' that'll set alarms off somewhere in the DC area.)

Ishmael

 

[thør]

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Tis the season.

 

[remy_lebeau8]

Got my first modern handgun today. A Ruger P95. Hopefully I'll get it to the range soon.

 

[Ishmael]

For you reloaders out there, pistol that is. I highly recommend "Berry's" bullets fpr target shooting or just plinking. First of all they're inexpensive. True, casting your own, or buying cast bullets, is cheaper. But in those cases you're going to have to deal with the lead fouling. Even the std. clad bullets have exposed lead in the base, some of which will vaporize with every shot leading once again to lead fouling, albeit over a longer period of time.

These bullets are plated with no exposed lead anywhere. The weights are consistent and with reduced loading you can 'plink' all day. I've been shooting their 230 gr. bullets for the 45 ACP loaded down to 650 fps without a hitch.

Ishmael

 

[JohnnySavage]

What do we think about gun kits? I've been looking on the interwebs for an AK-47 kit to build. They are generally in the $400 range. Most seem to be the Romanian version. Never fired and only thrown down once.

 

[Ishmael]

What do we think about gun kits? I've been looking on the interwebs for an AK-47 kit to build. They are generally in the $400 range. Most seem to be the Romanian version. Never fired and only thrown down once.

My first question is why the AK?

Ishmael

 

[JohnnySavage]

My first question is why the AK?

Ishmael

Just because I've always wanted one; and they seem to be easy to take apart and put together. If building one from a kit isn't beyond my skill set, I'll branch out into other classics.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

What do we think about gun kits? I've been looking on the interwebs for an AK-47 kit to build. They are generally in the $400 range. Most seem to be the Romanian version. Never fired and only thrown down once.

Guess it depends on what you want.

I use to buy a AR then just modify it to what I wanted. A year later the only original parts left are the bolt assembly.

Then I tried a kit. Less modifications but still only 50% of the original left by the time I was happy.

So now I just the buy the exact parts I want, one at a time...

But if you will be happy with the kit, and not need that new floating rail system or custom dust cover.... go for it.

 

[Ishmael]

Just because I've always wanted one; and they seem to be easy to take apart and put together. If building one from a kit isn't beyond my skill set, I'll branch out into other classics.

Guess it depends on what you want.

I use to buy a AR then just modify it to what I wanted. A year later the only original parts left are the bolt assembly.

Then I tried a kit. Less modifications but still only 50% of the original left by the time I was happy.

So now I just the buy the exact parts I want, one at a time...

But if you will be happy with the kit, and not need that new floating rail system or custom dust cover.... go for it.

The AK kits are cheaper and if it's going to be a wall-hanger and only once or twice a year to the range.......go for it.

If you plan on doing more than a little shooting then get the AR. Palmetto State Armory has well constructed kits.

Ishmael

 

[JohnnySavage]

The AK kits are cheaper and if it's going to be a wall-hanger and only once or twice a year to the range.......go for it.

If you plan on doing more than a little shooting then get the AR. Palmetto State Armory has well constructed kits.

Ishmael

It will be just for shooting Tannerite. I'm too old, fat and lazy to hunt anything. And I have plenty of modern guns for that, if the mood ever struck me.

I'd just like to start collecting classic/unusual guns. Ones that I can still go out in the woods with a blow things up with.

 

[Conager]

I was wondering where I could find this thread the other day because I kept passing that thousand-yard range out on the Carefree Highway there was some kind of national distance competition going on. Unfortunately the range is located about 20 miles east of where I need to be part of the wise I would have hung out and taking a look.

I need to have Noor invent me some kind of spoofing repeater so I can be in two places at once.

 

[Ishmael]

I was wondering where I could find this thread the other day because I kept passing that thousand-yard range out on the Carefree Highway there was some kind of national distance competition going on. Unfortunately the range is located about 20 miles east of where I need to be part of the wise I would have hung out and taking a look.

I need to have Noor invent me some kind of spoofing repeater so I can be in two places at once.

That's the range we went to isn't it Vat?

Ishmael

 

[VaticanAssassin]

That's the range we went to isn't it Vat?

Ishmael

Yep.

Was just out there last week fucking around with the 300 win mag. Took it out to 600 with 3in groups. 25x Nikon

 

[Ishmael]

Yep.

Was just out there last week fucking around with the 300 win mag. Took it out to 600 with 3in groups. 25x Nikon

LMAO. Sure you don't want me to gear up to reload?

Ishmael

 

[VaticanAssassin]

LMAO. Sure you don't want me to gear up to reload?

Ishmael

At a little over 3.00 per round it may be worth it.

But now sure I trust you after giving me all those rounds with no powder in them....

 

[Ishmael]

At a little over 3.00 per round it may be worth it.

But now sure I trust you after giving me all those rounds with no powder in them....

You didn't get any of those rnds with no powder in them. (BTW, the scale routine worked quite well. I was able to identify and reload every one of them. I also got some LocTite blue so that link rod will never come undone again.)

The Hornady 208gr. ELD Match should work quite well for you. God knows you have the powder capacity to move it right along. It has a phenomenal .690 BC.

Ishmael

 

[thør]

That's the range we went to isn't it Vat?

Ishmael

The range where the Carefree Highway intersects with 17 is the Black Canyon Range.

I've shot in the Western Wildcats match there, a few times.

 

[Ishmael]

The range where the Carefree Highway intersects with 17 is the Black Canyon Range.

I've shot in the Western Wildcats match there, a few times.

Yep, nice range. My only criticism is that it's a public range. The wait times can be genormous on the weekends.

Ishmael

 

[Ishmael]

A friend of mine (Tom for Vats info) recently picked up an Alex Pro 6.5 Creedmore. It's shooting .4 moa out of the box with factory ammo out to 300 yds. That's impressive enough as it is but even more so considering it's an auto-loader (ala AR type action).

He's in the process of working up some loads for it now to see if he can 'tune' it in a little better. I'm waiting to see what it will do on the 1K range.

Ishmael

 

[Conager]

The range where the Carefree Highway intersects with 17 is the Black Canyon Range.

I've shot in the Western Wildcats match there, a few times.

That's the one. 1650 acres or about 2.5 sq miles. Re-named "The Ben Avery Shooting Facility" after AZ Republic's City Editor, outdoorsman, conservationist.

I had no idea who he was. Had to Google-fu. Soumded vaguely familiar. At a minimum, a likely acquaintance of Grandad's since they seemed to have friends in common. Probably just that I saw the name in a byline.

He is a large reason Phoenix has all those mountain preserves. After the uber-rich got their Camelback and Mummy Mountain hillside homes, of course.

 

[thør]

Yep, nice range. My only criticism is that it's a public range. The wait times can be genormous on the weekends.

Ishmael

It was pretty far out from town in the mid 70's.