hmmm...i don't know how i feel about this...the KKK shouldn't be honored

Guest · Jan 11, 2005

thegirlfriday11 said:
that would be a valid argument if the whole of the army were a christian organization
but since our military supports all religious affiliations, no particular religious group is waging war, the US, however, is

you know i find it amazing that when its the KKK you are painting with a braod brush. But when some attacks christan groups. Its oh no its only one or two people.

mstryninja · Jan 11, 2005

ms_ktygirl said:
Here's a further story on this issue.

http://ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=8477

I guess that's that.

The Ku Klux Klan wins again by causing a dept of 80,000 dollars for taxpayers.

Missouri should sue them for court costs since the bastards dropped out after all this time.

thegirlfriday11 · Jan 11, 2005

ms_ktygirl said:
Here's a further story on this issue.

http://ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=8477

now i'm confused
that article is from 2001

Guest · Jan 11, 2005

let's argue events in this century

ok
how many deaths can be connected to the KKK.
how many deaths can be connected to christans groups.

you know after the year 2000. Everything else doesn't count

thegirlfriday11 · Jan 11, 2005

Never said:
Hey, everyone here says they're fucked up and we know we're right. So, we'll just toss rocks at them while we drive along. Maybe jump out, hitch one to the back of our truck, and drag him along for awhile.

As long as the cops aren't looking...

oh geez...you just reminded me of why i am even more disgusted with them

the group in jasper texas drug that poor man behind their truck until he died

sick fucks

mstryninja · Jan 11, 2005

plasmaball said:
lol Thats a huge Jump you just made there. I do not love the kkk. Lets get that right ok? Wow that had to be one of the stupidest things ever said to me.

I'm sure she didn't mean you specificly Plasma.

thegirlfriday11 · Jan 11, 2005

plasmaball said:
lol Thats a huge Jump you just made there. I do not love the kkk. Lets get that right ok? Wow that had to be one of the stupidest things ever said to me.

you're the one supporting the KKK and bashing Christianity here

thegirlfriday11 · Jan 11, 2005

plasmaball said:
you know i find it amazing that when its the KKK you are painting with a braod brush. But when some attacks christan groups. Its oh no its only one or two people.

because it is very different

christian groups aren't organizing and promoting hate and violence
and christians don't support the individual members who do go out on their own and do these things

mstryninja · Jan 11, 2005

thegirlfriday11 said:
you're the one supporting the KKK and bashing Christianity here

Okay, maybe she did.

Guest · Jan 11, 2005

thegirlfriday11 said:
you're the one supporting the KKK and bashing Christianity here

lol i am not supporting them. Stop being silly. They have the right to adopt a highway. Just like if a christan group wanted to. Get over it

Guest · Jan 11, 2005

mstryninja said:
Okay, maybe she did.

I amnot worried. She is saying things about me that are not true. I'll deal with it. she has a warped view on life anyways

thegirlfriday11 · Jan 11, 2005

mstryninja said:
Okay, maybe she did.

mstryninja · Jan 11, 2005

Okay, screw the concept of organisational unity.

Let's think large scale unity.

Now hug and make up.

thegirlfriday11 · Jan 11, 2005

plasmaball said:
lol i am not supporting them. Stop being silly. They have the right to adopt a highway. Just like if a christan group wanted to. Get over it

i don't think they should have that right

Pookie · Jan 11, 2005

LOST&FOUND said:
I don't think that should have put the sign up and I don't think that the state should have allowed them to even adopt the highway to begin with. It does not seem right for the state to accept money from hate groups such as that.

So who gets to decide who can have freedom of speech? Who gets to draw the line? What happens when that line happens to get drawn so that it takes away your freedom too?

A quote from the ACLU ...

It is easy to defend freedom of speech when the message is something many people find at least reasonable. But the defense of freedom of speech is most critical when the message is one most people find repulsive. That was true when the Nazis marched in Skokie. It remains true today. ...

The principle is as simple as it is central to true freedom of speech: those who do wrong are responsible for what they do; those who speak about it are not.

Holly Delight · Jan 11, 2005

I had just supposed that the method of protest would be an organized dumping of trash along their section of highway. If they had to spend more time making it spiffy, they would have less time for other activities.

thegirlfriday11 · Jan 11, 2005

plasmaball said:
I amnot worried. She is saying things about me that are not true. I'll deal with it. she has a warped view on life anyways

LMAO

thegirlfriday11 · Jan 11, 2005

mstryninja said:
Okay, screw the concept of organisational unity.

Let's think large scale unity.

Now hug and make up.

i'm not upset with anybody

just the KKK

and you'd have to kill me to make me hug one of them

The Mutt · Jan 11, 2005

Free speech for one is free speech for all. Period. Ban hate groups? Sounds good, but who gets to decide which groups are hate groups? The KKK is an easy choice, but what about the Black Panthers? The Nation of Islam? The 700 Club? Literotica?

Inciting to riot is against the law. So is criminal conspiracy. We have plenty of laws to protect us from dangerous people without asking the government to read our minds and hearts. So long as they break no laws, the Klan has the same rights you do. That's the American way.

Guest · Jan 11, 2005

thegirlfriday11 said:
i don't think they should have that right

good and thats why you are on here and not a judge.

Never · Jan 11, 2005

Pookie:
"So who gets to decide who can have freedom of speech? Who gets to draw the line?"

We do. We're Lit. We're all knowing.

thegirlfriday11 · Jan 11, 2005

Holly Delight said:
I had just supposed that the method of protest would be an organized dumping of trash along their section of highway. If they had to spend more time making it spiffy, they would have less time for other activities.

true

my favorite part of the article posted by ms_ktygirl

..."Michael Cuffley is the name of the KKK leader on the clean up application. He was unavailable for comment today, since he's in a Missouri prison on burglary charges."

such an upstanding group full of love and community betterment

whatthefuckever

catfish · Jan 11, 2005

Originally posted by thegirlfriday11
i don't think they should have that right

I am curious, what if this was a gay/lesbian group that wanted to pick up trash and have their name on the sign? I am willing to bet some fundamentalist group would protest it based on their beliefs. Would it be ok to exclude them because some group finds them offensive? Absolutely not. Speech and free association are protected and should be protected. Your feelings about the speech and group are immaterial.

mstryninja · Jan 11, 2005

thegirlfriday11 said:
i'm not upset with anybody

just the KKK

and you'd have to kill me to make me hug one of them

If I kill you and turn you into a rotting marionette will you forgive me like a good christian should?

Pookie · Jan 11, 2005

Never said:
Pookie:
"So who gets to decide who can have freedom of speech? Who gets to draw the line?"

We do. We're Lit. We're all knowing.

I didn't get that memo. But for some reason, it makes sense to me.

hmmm...i don't know how i feel about this...the KKK shouldn't be honored

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