How Much Do i Love My Master?

good lord this is ridiculous! the post that Dave quoted from JM was meant to show that it was indeed a Hijack and the two who raised the questions ADMITTED this, He was not saying that because JM was polite that makes it a closed forum, He was simply showing it was not Him who first used the word hijack. Cat also said it was and apologized and then all this other stuff started and it's ridiculous. i've never seen so much disrespect for others in our lifestyle. i thought we were all supportive of each other, people with like interests, i was wrong apparently and that truly truly saddens me, i just don't understand. and again, to Dave and His lil one, i am sorry for my part in this....
 
I question weather or not this was a closed board because if we do not agree with the people who have been here longer we get flamed not because JM was polite.
That quote was used to show how i got the idea that this thread had been hijacked.
Dave
 
tenedave said:
I question weather or not this was a closed board because if we do not agree with the people who have been here longer we get flamed not because JM was polite.
That quote was used to show how i got the idea that this thread had been hijacked.
Dave
So then you would not have even noticed or thought the thread hijacked if he had not posted that but then continued to rant and rave about nonsense until the thread (which i happened to have thought was nice) was totally blown to pieces.
 
lil_slave_rose said:
good lord this is ridiculous! the post that Dave quoted from JM was meant to show that it was indeed a Hijack and the two who raised the questions ADMITTED this, He was not saying that because JM was polite that makes it a closed forum, He was simply showing it was not Him who first used the word hijack. Cat also said it was and apologized and then all this other stuff started and it's ridiculous. i've never seen so much disrespect for others in our lifestyle. i thought we were all supportive of each other, people with like interests, i was wrong apparently and that truly truly saddens me, i just don't understand. and again, to Dave and His lil one, i am sorry for my part in this....
the only disrespect i saw on this whole thread came from you guys when the thread didnt go your way... and you continue to be disrespectful.
 
Kajira Callista said:
So then you would not have even noticed or thought the thread hijacked if he had not posted that but then continued to rant and rave about nonsense until the thread (which i happened to have thought was nice) was totally blown to pieces.

And if you read my first post on this thread it explains why i had to do that.But it seems other people are allowed to say and continue with thier thoughts but new people to the board are not.
It is in my nature to protect me and mine it people find that offensive then don't attack us.
Dave
 
tenedave said:
And if you read my first post on this thread it explains why i had to do that.But it seems other people are allowed to say and continue with thier thoughts but new people to the board are not.
It is in my nature to protect me and mine it people find that offensive then don't attack us.
Dave
Maybe you need to reread this thread and reevaluate who is attacking whom. Have a good evening doll.
 
Kajira Callista said:
the only disrespect i saw on this whole thread came from you guys when the thread didnt go your way... and you continue to be disrespectful.
And how exactly are we being disrespectful?
Dave
 
Kajira Callista said:
the only disrespect i saw on this whole thread came from you guys when the thread didnt go your way... and you continue to be disrespectful.

show me where i've been disrespectful, i have stated facts about the way new people are treated on this board, and believe me when Master and i were chastised i had PLENTY of PM's telling me that's the way it is with every new person 'an initiation stage' i believe one person called it. so yea, i pointed it out and said i thought it was wrong, but i was never disrespectful to anyone though i've been disrespected many times, told my love for my Master is puppy love (no it wasn't said straight to me but it was meant for the newbies on the board as stated) just because i am 'new' to this board does not mean i'm new to the lifestyle...no one knows me nor do they know my relationship with my Master and if i feel the need to tell the world how i feel about Him in a thread that was MADE for that reason, why is that wrong and why should i be put down for it? i'm really wasting my time because like i said earlier, i don't have over 1,000 posts so my opinions and feelings don't matter.
 
lil_slave_rose said:
show me where i've been disrespectful, i have stated facts about the way new people are treated on this board, and believe me when Master and i were chastised i had PLENTY of PM's telling me that's the way it is with every new person 'an initiation stage' i believe one person called it. so yea, i pointed it out and said i thought it was wrong, but i was never disrespectful to anyone though i've been disrespected many times, told my love for my Master is puppy love (no it wasn't said straight to me but it was meant for the newbies on the board as stated) just because i am 'new' to this board does not mean i'm new to the lifestyle...no one knows me nor do they know my relationship with my Master and if i feel the need to tell the world how i feel about Him in a thread that was MADE for that reason, why is that wrong and why should i be put down for it? i'm really wasting my time because like i said earlier, i don't have over 1,000 posts so my opinions and feelings don't matter.
once again i will say...you do not know me and i would appreciate not being lumped in with whomever has offended you. That is disrespectful to me. good night.
 
Kajira Callista said:
once again i will say...you do not know me and i would appreciate not being lumped in with whomever has offended you. That is disrespectful to me. good night.

i did not lump you in with anyone, you have made comments to me, i answerd them....
 
To the submissive with the beautiful post in the begining, it was gorgeous and i have one of my own writen to me in response to an assignment to add and to TRY and get this thread back on track for subs praising their doms. To the dom who owns her, Forgive me for continuing in the argument. I could have easily defended her with one post, but when they persisted (i am a bit stubborn in this category of defense because it is also in MY nature to protect me and mine) so i also persisted and i had NO idea it would continue without me for another 3 pages. So now, on with my post mailed to me by my 'pet' Isis, the original poster who caused this bickering


Why I choose to serve.

When I met you I was ready to give up on love, not just love but fulfillment. I enjoyed being controled, finding a guy who didn't want to use me and leave me was something I didn't know how to do. I was depressed, eating too much and contemplating things I rather not mention. Ever since the day we met I can't get the smile off my face, I can't force the warm fuzzies to stop. When I found you wanted to learn about control and dominance it was like you were almost too good to be true. Submission to you is something I didn't decide on quickly, I wanted to see what kind of man you are. At the beginning you told me you weren't too sure about being in control all the time, but now it seems you were born for the role.

You dominate me in ways you may never know. My mind, my body and soul are all yours to control and nurture. I've never felt more beautiful then when I'm in your arms. Love, some say, is loving the small things. Like how green your eyes get when youre holding me, or the way you laugh. Submission is given only when trust is set between two people. For me to give myself to you completely shows my complete trust in you, not just the physical but emotional.

I submitt because I love how your face changes when I'm pleasing you, or the words you whisper when we're holding one another. Sex is something that adds to the D/s but it's not the biggest part. To know you're there to protect me, to keep me safe from others. I belong to you because you have shown yourself to me in a way that many other people have not seen you.
Love always,
Your Pet
 
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airatome said:
To the submissive with the beautiful post in the begining, it was gorgeous and i have one of my own writen to me in response to an assignment to add and to TRY and get this thread back on track for subs praising their doms. To the dom who owns her, Forgive me for continuing in the argument. I could have easily defended her with one post, but when they persisted (i am a bit stubborn in this category of defense) so did i and i had NO idea it would continue without me for another 3 pages. So now, with my post mailed to me by my 'pet' Isis, the original poster who caused this bickering


Why I choose to serve.

When I met you I was ready to give up on love, not just love but fulfillment. I enjoyed being controled, finding a guy who didn't want to use me and leave me was something I didn't know how to do. I was depressed, eating too much and contemplating things I rather not mention. Ever since the day we met I can't get the smile off my face, I can't force the warm fuzzies to stop. When I found you wanted to learn about control and dominance it was like you were almost too good to be true. Submission to you is something I didn't decide on quickly, I wanted to see what kind of man you are. At the beginning you told me you weren't too sure about being in control all the time, but now it seems you were born for the role.

You dominate me in ways you may never know. My mind, my body and soul are all yours to control and nurture. I've never felt more beautiful then when I'm in your arms. Love, some say, is loving the small things. Like how green your eyes get when youre holding me, or the way you laugh. Submission is given only when trust is set between two people. For me to give myself to you completely shows my complete trust in you, not just the physical but emotional.

I submitt because I love how your face changes when I'm pleasing you, or the words you whisper when we're holding one another. Sex is something that adds to the D/s but it's not the biggest part. To know you're there to protect me, to keep me safe from others. I belong to you because you have shown yourself to me in a way that many other people have not seen you.
Love always,
Your Pet

awesome tribute!! thank You for sharing it, i enjoyed reading it *grins*
 
Praise the sub who can create such beautiful words, as a writer myself, i dont think i can create anything as from the heart as that, ......
and thanks ^_^ i just hope we can get back on track and have more posts like this, instead of the latter :/
 
airatome believe me i understand that and i agree with Lil rose that ia a beautiful tribute.
Dave
 
Thank you all for your praise on my tribute. I'm sorry I caused all this mess. But not to dwell I thank you all for your praise for my tribute.
 
Mistriss_Isis said:
Thank you all for your praise on my tribute. I'm sorry I caused all this mess. But not to dwell I thank you all for your praise for my tribute.

not to dwell either, but i don't see that you started the mess, i'm sure i'm not the only one who feels that way ;)
 
lil_slave_rose said:
not to dwell either, but i don't see that you started the mess, i'm sure i'm not the only one who feels that way ;)

she didnt cause this mess, was just misunderstood was all. But i vote (maybe not by show of hands....since well our text cant really raise any) we just leave the 'mess' out of our posts from now, just as a precaution so it doesnt come back up again and bite us all in the arse <.< going to sleep now so i'll no longer be spamming this thread for a while lol. Hope it goes well and goodluck all.


(that IS kinda funny though.....Mistriss Isis....a sub.....o_O? of course we dont even know how OLD these lit names are but yea lol bit of irony if i do say so)
 
lil_slave_rose said:
show me where i've been disrespectful, i have stated facts about the way new people are treated on this board, and believe me when Master and i were chastised i had PLENTY of PM's telling me that's the way it is with every new person 'an initiation stage' i believe one person called it.
I haven't seen every, or even most, new people treated poorly in this forum. I have seen many treated with caution and "felt out" (on the GB, this can be downright brutal) - yet I've also seen (and experienced) more seasoned members being disagreed with and disrespected here. Yesterday someone insulted me and others who use certain abbreviations in my most recent thread (I believe we were called "stupid") that was ABOUT community members discriminating against and hurting others when they weren't doing anything wrong, for example. :rolleyes: I don't let stuff like that get to me though; it's just the way people and forums like this are, so I just take it in stride.

From what I can tell, post count and time here don't make a huge difference; people are treated based on the way they act mostly (and this is anywhere, online or off). If they don't conform to the community norms/standards, they're treated differently. That may not be right or ideal, but it's the way it is. I wasn't picked on when I started posting here, for instance, even though I was (and still am) a newbie to the BDSM forums. Is that because I have a lot of posts or joined a couple of years ago? I seriously doubt it since people like Tenedave are also veterans and treated differently - we're treated differently when we act differently.

In that vein, what does seem to work for people is ignoring/having a thick forum skin, choosing their battles carefully and going about their business. Those of us who do this are pretty well left alone because it's what the majority does and expects.

so yea, i pointed it out and said i thought it was wrong, but i was never disrespectful to anyone though i've been disrespected many times, told my love for my Master is puppy love (no it wasn't said straight to me but it was meant for the newbies on the board as stated) just because i am 'new' to this board does not mean i'm new to the lifestyle...no one knows me nor do they know my relationship with my Master and if i feel the need to tell the world how i feel about Him in a thread that was MADE for that reason, why is that wrong and why should i be put down for it? i'm really wasting my time because like i said earlier, i don't have over 1,000 posts so my opinions and feelings don't matter.
I don't think Cutie's post had anything to do with post count or join date, but rather the content of the posts. No one said it was wrong to post what you guys wrote, or put you down for writing it; she did express her opinion on the content. And, well, that's her right, just as it is yours to post your feelings about your Master. If you re-read her post, I think you'll find it says nothing about the people who posted tributes, only that she wasn't fond of the tributes. "Puppy love" was used to describe them, not to put down members or their relationships, from what I can tell.

I'm not taking sides here on anything, I'm simply giving you another perspective that may help you evaluate things differently. :rose:
 
tenedave said:
You talk of my lack of respect yet you can't even read the thread properly.the thread was set up for subs to pay tribute to their Masters.

Get used to it Dave. This is the Cafe, no one owns or controls a thread and once it's started it can, and will, go anywhere the posters feel like going. The OP doesn't own it or control it, the mods don't own it (though they can delete or move a thread if it really gets out of line) not you, not me, not anyone.

Such is the nature of free-flowing conversation. This is not a static or strictly moderated bulletin board. To expect that the only people to post will be pyl's singing praises to their PYL's is totally unrealistic. You'll get PYL's replying to their pyl's, you will get ex's venting sour grapes, you will get those who agree with certain opinions and those who disagree with those opinions and those who agreed in the first place. You will get Me too's and me three's and "Shop at www.wtfisthat.com" posts. Gracie may come along and sprinkle cookie dust on your thread...

Don't be surprised if you get some trolls along the way too.

The quicker you accept that you have absolutely zero control over the conversation, none, nada, zilch.. and none over where it goes after a thread is started, the sooner you realize that the only way to keep a thread remotely on track is to keep posting messages based on the original premise, the quicker you will feel less frustrated, the sooner you will find acceptance, the easier it will be to keep the conversation on track.

You guide the conversation by gently nudging it in the direction you wish to go. Protestations and brute force won't work.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread posting...
 
Evil_Geoff said:
Get used to it Dave. This is the Cafe, no one owns or controls a thread and once it's started it can, and will, go anywhere the posters feel like going. The OP doesn't own it or control it, the mods don't own it (though they can delete or move a thread if it really gets out of line) not you, not me, not anyone.

Such is the nature of free-flowing conversation. This is not a static or strictly moderated bulletin board. To expect that the only people to post will be pyl's singing praises to their PYL's is totally unrealistic. You'll get PYL's replying to their pyl's, you will get ex's venting sour grapes, you will get those who agree with certain opinions and those who disagree with those opinions and those who agreed in the first place. You will get Me too's and me three's and "Shop at www.wtfisthat.com" posts. Gracie may come along and sprinkle cookie dust on your thread...

Don't be surprised if you get some trolls along the way too.

The quicker you accept that you have absolutely zero control over the conversation, none, nada, zilch.. and none over where it goes after a thread is started, the sooner you realize that the only way to keep a thread remotely on track is to keep posting messages based on the original premise, the quicker you will feel less frustrated, the sooner you will find acceptance, the easier it will be to keep the conversation on track.

You guide the conversation by gently nudging it in the direction you wish to go. Protestations and brute force won't work.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread posting...

Beautifully said, Geoff. :rose:
 
Evil_Geoff said:
Get used to it Dave. This is the Cafe, no one owns or controls a thread and once it's started it can, and will, go anywhere the posters feel like going. The OP doesn't own it or control it, the mods don't own it (though they can delete or move a thread if it really gets out of line) not you, not me, not anyone.

Such is the nature of free-flowing conversation. This is not a static or strictly moderated bulletin board. To expect that the only people to post will be pyl's singing praises to their PYL's is totally unrealistic. You'll get PYL's replying to their pyl's, you will get ex's venting sour grapes, you will get those who agree with certain opinions and those who disagree with those opinions and those who agreed in the first place. You will get Me too's and me three's and "Shop at www.wtfisthat.com" posts. Gracie may come along and sprinkle cookie dust on your thread...

Don't be surprised if you get some trolls along the way too.

The quicker you accept that you have absolutely zero control over the conversation, none, nada, zilch.. and none over where it goes after a thread is started, the sooner you realize that the only way to keep a thread remotely on track is to keep posting messages based on the original premise, the quicker you will feel less frustrated, the sooner you will find acceptance, the easier it will be to keep the conversation on track.

You guide the conversation by gently nudging it in the direction you wish to go. Protestations and brute force won't work.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread posting...

Geoff,
Thank you for your words and i do understand where you are coming from and i have no problem with that.
The only reason that i did reply was that when my little saw what had happen she phoned me in TEARS.
She is new to this and she wanted to do something nice for me and give others in her situation a place to pay tribute.But what got me going after that was that it was not cat or JM that replyed to defend themselves which i would have understood but anyone else who believed that they new best.Original i pm'd these people so as not to continue it on the thread but that was not good enough for some people because they went public and tried to attack me.
In defending myself i broke a rule and for that i apologised to the person publicly on here.
I am all for freedom of speech and all that it brings i just wish people would read threads and respect thier content and intentions.If you have nothing good to say why bother.I myself will only post if i feel i have a valid point other wise i keep quiet.i do not need to promote my own self worth on here to feel good about myself.
i hope this lays a few ghosts to rest if not so be it.
Be well Dave
 
tenedave said:
Geoff,
Thank you for your words and i do understand where you are coming from and i have no problem with that.
The only reason that i did reply was that when my little saw what had happen she phoned me in TEARS.
She is new to this and she wanted to do something nice for me and give others in her situation a place to pay tribute.But what got me going after that was that it was not cat or JM that replyed to defend themselves which i would have understood but anyone else who believed that they new best.Original i pm'd these people so as not to continue it on the thread but that was not good enough for some people because they went public and tried to attack me.
In defending myself i broke a rule and for that i apologised to the person publicly on here.
I am all for freedom of speech and all that it brings i just wish people would read threads and respect thier content and intentions.If you have nothing good to say why bother.I myself will only post if i feel i have a valid point other wise i keep quiet.i do not need to promote my own self worth on here to feel good about myself.
i hope this lays a few ghosts to rest if not so be it.
Be well Dave


It's the internet. I'm sensitive to a lot more than I let on, but if someone makes me upset on the boards and I cry, that's nobody's doing but mine.

Being new to a board or new to D/s doesn't mean that every rational rule of the normal universe doesn't apply. When you put yourself out into public, it doesn't mean everyone will approve and be as nice as humanly possible, and it doesn't mean that you need to listen to them either. Whatever makes you post something romantic and heartfelt in the first place, why not feel secure and strong enough about it that you can greet the naysayer with a hearty "screw you?"
 
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