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I don't think you understand the point that I'm trying to make. My problem with you isn't that you are bitchy. You're inconsistent and you hold different standards for others than yourself. I'll give you an example:

1. I post a form that has the words "girly man" and "queer". You tell me that's offensive. That's totally fine. You're okay to find that offensive and to point it out.

2. You post to someone who mentions having an affair and you wish cancer on them. Someone points out that this is offensive and you basically tell them to fuck off because you think it's an appropriate response, based on your last experiences.

Both of those are actual events that took place. This is what I mean when I talk about your inconsistency. You expect others to bow to your wishes and make adjustments based on how certain words make YOU feel, yet if someone else points something out to you, you tell them to basically fuck off.

So no, I'm not inconsistent in what I've said. I've apologized in the past when I've offended people here. In fact, I have gone back and edited posts based on the comments of others. I've spoken to you in a respectful manner ever since we called a truce. You use the example of me posting something that was homophobic and dismissing it. I specifically asked HOW that was homophobic. I was basically given a lecture by another user that the word "queer" is okay to be used by the gay community, but not everyone. That's bullshit and hypocritical.

I clearly admit I can be offensive. The difference is, I don't go around every time I see something that is offensive to me and bitch at them or roll my eyes for being offensive. If I'm going to say things that are offensive or irreverent, I have to be willing to accept the same. And that's what people seem to find so off-putting about you. You will be a total cunt (your own words), but you expect people to put up with your offenses. Am I guilty of being rude sometimes? Absolutely. But every time someone else says something I don't like, I don't bitch at them for it. Or give them a snarky reply. I can't say I've never done it. I'm sure I'm guilty as such. But I imagine if that was the case, you would be getting loads of support messages about the subject.

A perfect example is the member JBJ. That guy is a fucking nutter and he posts some awful stuff. But do you know why he's more tolerable? Because he doesn't post his shit and then jump on someone else when they post something that offends him.

As far as your looks...

Again, I never said you were ugly. I never said you weren't attractive. I said I wasn't attracted to you. I do think it's brave of you to put your pictures up. My pictures in my avatar/profile are actually me, you may be surprised to know. The reason I was saying I find you unattractive is because you seem to be convinced that I was flirting with you at some point. Your definition of flirting is extremely different than mine.

I don't think that you should play coy or pretend to be unattractive. I think it's good to have a healthy self esteem. It is the way you come across about it. You come across as your own biggest fan. That's probably the single biggest comment I've gotten from people, is how highly you speak of yourself. It's considered unflattering by most. Perhaps you don't care about that. And if that's the case, then I get it and this is useless. But the fact that you said you would consider your behaviour in the future leads me to believe that you maybe do care some.

Consider this... I'm a musician. I play several different instruments. By most standards, I'm extremely gifted. I would be far better than most at what I do. I've played on several albums (nothing that is huge or anything) and I've made decent money from it. It's one thing for me to admit that I'm good and that I play. It's another to constantly talk about myself and how good I am. Do you see the difference?

For instance, if someone compliments your looks, there's nothing wrong with saying thank you and that you modeled or acted in the past. But it's the constant self promotion that drives people crazy. And when I say you're delusional, it's because you don't see how awful that looks. Again, the number of people who have messaged me about this tells me that I'm certainly not alone. The way you speak of yourself... It's not normal.

You consistently reference this about being a woman. It has nothing to do with you being a woman. If a guy acted like this, it would be just as unflattering.

"Again, fuck cultural norms."

This is the hypocrisy that I think drives people crazy. You tell me I can't post something with the word "queer", because it's not culturally acceptable. Yet you don't have to behave the same? I've listed several things that you do that are outside of cultural norms. So which is it?

Take someone like George Carlin. He's offensive. But for the most part, he was acceptable for the venue in which he played. He certainly was offensive, but he had a time and a place. However, consider how absolutely ridiculous it would be if be talked like he did and then acted holier than thou about things that offended him.

Sorry for any typos, this was on a mobile.


I asked about 6 different people what the meaning of "hagbeast" would be in the terms of an insult and every single one of them said "It means he thinks you're ugly." Admittedly, my sample size is pretty small, but when over a half dozen people think it means ugly plus another person jumps in to agree with you over how unattractive I am, what did you think the word "hagbeast" meant? Whether you like it or not, that's what a LOT of people are going to think you're commenting on.

About "Self-promotion": For that, I don't get it. I really don't. Being open about my own self confidence, my past work and what I did and how that relates to why I post here, talking about how attractive people have social privileges...THAT is NOT self promotion. Self promotion would be for me to go into unrelated threads and talk about how awesome I am and how everyone should friend me on facebook or follow me on twitter or come see my picture threads. Talking about related things on related posts is not delusional self promotion, that is me sharing myself openly without being shamed into silence because I'm afraid of people thinking I'm arrogant.

A fact of the world is that attractive people have social privileges.


http://feministgal.blogspot.com/2008/07/beauty-privilege.html

I don't understand how talking about this is somehow "bad". I'm aware of this facet of our culture today, and I try not to take advantage of my place within it. I try REALLY HARD to be socially aware and educate myself about our culture today and the things I can do to improve it. Being aware of my privilege is one of the ways I have attempted to evolve and grow as a person. This thread is another example, me owning my mistakes, explaining why I made them, and being open and honest about myself regardless of whatever "slings and arrows" come my way because of it.

Whether you enjoy the premise or not: Straight people cannot use the word "Queer" and let me use this as an example: Non-blacks cannot use the word "Nigger". It's the same thing. They're words that certain privileged groups cannot use and certain minority groups can. The minority community in question takes back the word for THEM to use, in order to take back some sliver of power that was stolen from them by the people in power...but everyone else is not allowed to use it without looking like a bigot. It's not hypocritical, it's a marginalized group taking back some modicum of power. You are a straight cis-gendered male, one of the easiest groups in the world to belong to. You have privileges that the rest of the world will never live to see just because of the luck of your birth, getting to use the offensive word in question is one tiny privilege in a very small selection that the minority community has.

Let them have it, don't use language of the group you don't belong to. I "read" as white. I KNOW why I can't use the word "Nigger" nor would I complain that "Well black people can so I should be able to, that's so hypocritical!" I am married to a man, so that means I "read" as straight. I know why I can't use the word "Queer" without looking like a bigot. I don't have the time or frankly, the energy to explain everything in this thread about why you can't use the term "Queer" or for example the word "Nigger" or any other offensive slander word, if you really don't know why and you want to understand, you might consider doing some research outside of Lit. Here's a good starting point:

http://chronos-tachyon.net/mirror/io.com/s3chap5.html

The thing is, you're not breaking a cultural norm by using words like "Queer". The cultural norm is straight people using words like Queer to describe other people in an insulting way. If you want to go against cultural norms, then you wouldn't use words like "Queer".

Also, about my posts: I go after trolls and people that openly admit to hurting other people, like cheating on their partners. I have never attacked, cursed at or wished ill on anyone who hasn't hurt someone else or used bigoted, offensive language. That might not mean anything to you personally, though. I've made a promise here to try and be more compassionate in the future, and I intend to keep it.
 
I'll write more later, but I'll apologize for using the word hagbeast in such a manner that made you think I was attacking your looks. I figured all of the other times I said I didn't think you were ugly would have made that clear. So, for the record, calling you a hagbeast had nothing to do with your looks.
 
I think what concerns me most, of this whole conversation with you, is that you are genuinely most annoyed that I don't find you pretty or attacked your looks. I've said some pretty mean things early on in this conversation, when we were arguing in a less constructive manner, and all of them were pointed towards your personality. You seemed mildly annoyed. But the moment something was perceived as negative about your looks, you genuinely changed your tune. You said that I repeatedly called you ugly, when in fact I did no such thing. I realize the use of the word hagbeast was taken that way, fairly, and I apologized. But several times I made it a point to say that I was not attacking your looks at all. In fact, when Christopher brought looks into it, I stopped that. This whole debate has never been about whether you were pretty or not.

The debate has been about how you seemingly LIVE in privilege. To everyone that has spoken to me about this thread, the perception is that you think highly of yourself. It reaches far beyond confidence. And it's the combination of behaviours. The fact that you snap at people who write something offensive while you have free reign to wish cancer upon those who do things you find offensive while often talking about the privilege of being beautiful is a cocktail that puts a sour taste in the mouths of people.

My opinion of you has changed, a bit. I no longer think you are just a mean spirited person. My original perception of you, since I've been here, has been that you are just a cold hearted bitch. I now find you to be unaware of how you're perceived. I think maybe you do care more than I initially thought. I think maybe in your quest to be self aware and to accept your "genetic privileges", you've actually done just the opposite.

Let's replace beauty with "wealth", in your scenario:

I am not sultan rich, by any stretch of the imagination. But by most measures (and by the fucking government's measures), I am well off, given my location and age and assets and all. I realize that I do have certain "privileges" because of that. I can buy this or that without a lot of thought. I'm aware of that and I don't pretend to be clueless about it. Now it's something I've worked for and I wasn't a trust fund baby or given it by genetics. However, as I said, I am aware that I have certain "privileges" because of that. But you would never ever hear me mention it. It's in poor taste to talk about such things, particularly in front of others who may not have such "privilege". Openly talking about being "genetically privileged" and "conventionally pretty" is the equivalent of someone talking about their high salary.

What I mean when I say that I find you delusional is that you don't see how you come across. You think that because people find your posts bitchy it must be because they hate women or are ugly or this or that. Not because the combination of posts about your gifted genetics and snark. You genuinely don't see the way your posts read. I thought, before this conversation, that you did, but you didn't give a shit. But now I see that you really don't understand it, maybe because you try to be aware of it.

As far as the words that people use... You either strive for equality or you don't. Double standards seem to be EXACTLY the kind of thing that you would want to avoid. And it's not like I use the word "queer" in every day language. In fact, I can't say I've heard anyone use that word in really life in years and years. And it's not like I'm champing at the bit to use the word nigger. I would never use that word and I don't think anyone should, either. I don't not use that word because I'm white. Perhaps none of us should use the word queer or nigger. You hear that Rainshine?!?! I'm kidding, of course. :)

And I actually understand about the whole modeling thing. I did a little bit of modeling, some time ago. Probably not to the extent that you did, and I think my experience was a bit different. I was a "before" model for the "small dick" pill ads. I mean, imagine the pic in my avatar 12" shorter. Yup. That's me, pre big dick pills. Sorry peeps, I wasn't naturally genetically gifted.

About your posts- Wishing cancer upon someone who cheats or trolls or whatever... Isn't that a bit much? Cancer? And what about people who have cancer? Or have a loved one with cancer? Doesn't that seem insanely offensive to them. That you would wish cancer upon someone who trolls or is a bigot or is unfaithful? I don't know about most, but I wouldn't wish cancer upon my worst enemy (Chad Kroeger and Hugh Jackman).

I realize you said that you would be more sensitive and I think that's good. I shall consider my posts as well. You and I have both had a discussion here and have been able to do so without using harsh words or attack each other. We've been blunt and not danced around the hairy bush, which is fine.

My one sadness in all of this is that, through everything, you seemed most offended that someone attacked your looks. All that's been said and you clearly took greatest offense to that- even looking into insults not related to your looks. I specifically stayed away from those insults, as I never wanted it to be about that. My mistake was using the word hagbeast, as it sounded as if it was about looks. Perhaps hellbeast would have been more appropriate.

(Again, typed on a Mobile...)
 
I think what concerns me most, of this whole conversation with you, is that you are genuinely most annoyed that I don't find you pretty or attacked your looks. I've said some pretty mean things early on in this conversation, when we were arguing in a less constructive manner, and all of them were pointed towards your personality. You seemed mildly annoyed. But the moment something was perceived as negative about your looks, you genuinely changed your tune. You said that I repeatedly called you ugly, when in fact I did no such thing. I realize the use of the word hagbeast was taken that way, fairly, and I apologized. But several times I made it a point to say that I was not attacking your looks at all. In fact, when Christopher brought looks into it, I stopped that. This whole debate has never been about whether you were pretty or not.

The reason I was most offended by you commenting on my looks instead of my personality is because my personality is what I am LEAST self conscious about. I like myself as a human being, on the inside. My personality I am 100% comfortable with. But because I am still entrenched by my past and the fact that I'm constantly bombarded with media that drives to sell me products to "fix" things that aren't perfect, I sometimes feel less pretty than I am.

No one can tell me things that I don't think are true and hurt my feelings about it. I know I'm not an idiot, so you calling me an idiot doesn't bother me. I'm not stupid, or delusional, or any of those other things you called me. So it doesn't bother me. HOWEVER, because I am still human, I am still plagued by the same struggle over my outward appearance as many other human beings. If you really want to take that as a failing on my part more so than me being worried about you calling into question my intelligence, that's your prerogative. But understand first that you cannot convince me of something if I don't already partially believe it, in the darkest corners of my self-conscious and worried mind.

The debate has been about how you seemingly LIVE in privilege. To everyone that has spoken to me about this thread, the perception is that you think highly of yourself. It reaches far beyond confidence. And it's the combination of behaviours. The fact that you snap at people who write something offensive while you have free reign to wish cancer upon those who do things you find offensive while often talking about the privilege of being beautiful is a cocktail that puts a sour taste in the mouths of people.

Yes, I think highly of myself. I don't understand why anyone would want me to think I'm a horrible, stupid, ugly person. People Should Not Have To Think About Themselves That Way to be socially acceptable. No one should WANT me to have poor self esteem and think that I'm a bad person and unattractive. If you and all your PM friends want me to think badly of myself just so I can be cool in your eyes, then I'm not interested in being friends with any of you. There is nothing wrong with me loving myself.


I am not sultan rich, by any stretch of the imagination. But by most measures (and by the fucking government's measures), I am well off, given my location and age and assets and all. I realize that I do have certain "privileges" because of that. I can buy this or that without a lot of thought. I'm aware of that and I don't pretend to be clueless about it. Now it's something I've worked for and I wasn't a trust fund baby or given it by genetics. However, as I said, I am aware that I have certain "privileges" because of that. But you would never ever hear me mention it. It's in poor taste to talk about such things, particularly in front of others who may not have such "privilege". Openly talking about being "genetically privileged" and "conventionally pretty" is the equivalent of someone talking about their high salary.

And you know what's funny to me? I have no problem with that at all. What's objectionable to one person is fine to another. If the thread in question is about money, why would a person not talk about it? I don't find people that talk openly about their lives in honest ways objectionable.

What I mean when I say that I find you delusional is that you don't see how you come across. You think that because people find your posts bitchy it must be because they hate women or are ugly or this or that. Not because the combination of posts about your gifted genetics and snark. You genuinely don't see the way your posts read. I thought, before this conversation, that you did, but you didn't give a shit. But now I see that you really don't understand it, maybe because you try to be aware of it.

If someone chooses to not like me because I'm completely open and honest about my life and who I am, that's not really a problem, in my eyes. We obviously don't see eye to eye about what kind of people are cool. And that's fine. It takes all kinds of people for the world to have flavor and diversity. I probably wouldn't get along with anyone who thinks it's not okay to have healthy self esteem anyway. So no, I don't really care, because why should I care about what people -who don't like me specifically because they find my self esteem objectionable- think about me? I can't please everyone, nor should people think I should alter my personality to suit THEIR tastes.

As far as the words that people use... You either strive for equality or you don't. Double standards seem to be EXACTLY the kind of thing that you would want to avoid. And it's not like I use the word "queer" in every day language. In fact, I can't say I've heard anyone use that word in really life in years and years. And it's not like I'm champing at the bit to use the word nigger. I would never use that word and I don't think anyone should, either. I don't not use that word because I'm white. Perhaps none of us should use the word queer or nigger. You hear that Rainshine?!?! I'm kidding, of course. :)

I don't believe it's a double standard for a gay person to use the word Queer. Also, are you Asian or are you white, because now, I'm confused.

And I actually understand about the whole modeling thing. I did a little bit of modeling, some time ago. Probably not to the extent that you did, and I think my experience was a bit different. I was a "before" model for the "small dick" pill ads. I mean, imagine the pic in my avatar 12" shorter. Yup. That's me, pre big dick pills. Sorry peeps, I wasn't naturally genetically gifted.

That's awesome, you modeled too! I'm sorry if the experience wasn't fun, not all photo shoots are. Actually, most aren't fun, they're kind of not-fun because the lights are really fucking hot and you end up with a back cramp from hours of holding poses, but the end results are great. As for the nature of your shoot: Hey, work is work. I did commercials for a "learn how to use the computer/internet" piece of software that was absolutely ridiculous, but money is money and I did it.


About your posts- Wishing cancer upon someone who cheats or trolls or whatever... Isn't that a bit much? Cancer? And what about people who have cancer? Or have a loved one with cancer? Doesn't that seem insanely offensive to them. That you would wish cancer upon someone who trolls or is a bigot or is unfaithful? I don't know about most, but I wouldn't wish cancer upon my worst enemy (Chad Kroeger and Hugh Jackman).

You're absolutely right. That was horrible, and I resolved to never say something like that again.

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ETA: I forgot to address this: I majored in Psychology in college. So yes, I have that background.
 
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I don't believe it's a double standard for a gay person to use the word Queer. Also, are you Asian or are you white, because now, I'm confused.

Half Asian. Half white. And half black. :D

I was just joking about the modeling. I'm not really a "before" dick model. :D
 
I know this isn't my argument, but let me assure you pmann is not the kind of person AT ALL that would want anyone to have unhealthy self esteem, and how I read this, that's not at all what he is saying either. He is someone you'd want in your corner, and everyone would be lucky to have him there. In fact I know pmann incredibly well and behind him continuing this discussion with you that is probably exactly what he's trying to do on some level...be in your corner. Whether he'd like to admit that here or not, I know who he is.

I think there is a big difference between having healthy self-esteem and self-worth than having an over-inflated sense of worth based on ones appearance and that anyone's biggest focus on who they are and what they have to offer. That is how as an outside I am reading what's going on here.

I have a three year old daughter and she is just beautiful and we have been approached by a number of agencies to put her into modelling and one local TV show (that happens to be my favourite TV show too). We have refused all approaches without a second thought. It is one of my greatest fears for her that she grows up feeling like her appearance is who she is, or in any way at all relates to her worth as a human being. Without meaning to be disparaging or put any ill feelings out there, I do feel a great sense of sadness when I read your posts SD, because I feel like you do equate your looks to your worth, very much so, and you spend so much time convincing everyone else of the same thing. I feel like you have been much more concerned about convincing everyone else of your beauty than you are of truly feeling beautiful and secure in who you are... all of who you are, and letting the world just take you in and love all of you anyway. You don't need to sell yourself to the world (or the internet or wherever), yourself will sell itself if you just step back and let it.

Anyway... sorry for butting in. As you were!

If you read more than just my posts in this thread, you'll see that anything related to the way I look is about 5% of my posts. I don't spend "a lot of time" trying to convince anyone that I'm pretty. I don't ever feel the need to do that.

My Makeup Fairy thread isn't for self-promotion or convincing people that I'm good looking. It's there to help people feel better about themselves by educating them when they come to me with questions. It's there to be interesting and funny, and about fashion and self-esteem and correcting minor flaws in easy and budget-friendly ways.

Of course it's going to look like I'm all about my looks because that's been 40% of the discussion just on this thread. All you need to do is look deeper into my posting history to get a much clearer insight into what I'm here for. If you want to take who you think I am just from a few posts that you've seen, that's your choice, but I am not "all about" the way I look. I openly admit who I am, that's kind of a big deal to me. I don't lie about myself, my past or what I think/feel. Most of my time spent here is answering questions and helping people.
 
I know this isn't my argument, but let me assure you pmann is not the kind of person AT ALL that would want anyone to have unhealthy self esteem, and how I read this, that's not at all what he is saying either. He is someone you'd want in your corner, and everyone would be lucky to have him there. In fact I know pmann incredibly well and behind him continuing this discussion with you that is probably exactly what he's trying to do on some level...be in your corner. Whether he'd like to admit that here or not, I know who he is.

I'll admit that here. I certainly don't want you to feel bad about yourself. Of course not. I do find it attractive when a girl has confidence.

I came into this argument disliking you greatly. At this point, I don't dislike you at all. I think you and I have talked and had a good conversation. I don't think you and I would ever be best friends, as I see little in common. Not that I think you are looking to be my best mate. But I don't think we have to dislike each other either.

I hope that through this discussion you've learned something. I have as well.

And for what it's worth, none of the people that PM'd me did so with malicious intent. Some might have been annoyed at your posts and the way you react. But none of them did so with hopes that you were hurt or felt bad by it.

So to all those who told us we should shut our faces... Look a us. All kinds of progress was made.
 
Sorry, I wasn't referring to your Make-Up Fairy thread, or any other posts as I have admittedly not read any of them or gone looking, my apologies I wasn't clearer on that. I was referring to this thread alone and it's content; that the main argument to come out of it has been about your looks - how you perceive them and how anyone else does. Not perhaps the other more important nitty-gritty that could be of real value to all parties.

Your looks have been a major part of this discussion because that's the bit you have chosen to run with, when perhaps the comments about them that spurred you into this action might have been best dealt with with a little of the infamous SD :rolleyes: and tossing them over your shoulder and moving on from them (best for you I mean).

ETA: I read your reasoning why the focus has been on your looks just up there ^, and kind of get it kind of don't but that's ok. (I didn't want you to feel like you had to go over it again.) Ultimately, we all choose to take from others what we want to. :)

Well like I said before...if a person that doesn't know me reads JUST this thread, it's going to look like I'm completely obsessed with the way I look because all sorts of sarcastic and ugly barbs about my appearance and my job were lobbed, and then me defending myself from said barbs and explaining WHY I have said the things I've said. Yeah, I'm going to look like a person that's totally consumed by my appearance and job. I already explained why, because my appearance is literally the ONLY thing I am self conscious about, so everything else I was called rolled off my back like water on a duck. So why address something I know isn't true and doesn't bother me?

This is just ONE thread, though. As I said above, even a glance at my posting history would reveal a person that was much more interested in advising, comforting, and helping other people. And smashing a few trolls...but I digress...:D

ANYWAY...if a person thinks that they know everything they need to know about me just from one thread, that's judging a book by it's cover and I don't have time for people like that. So sure, Infamous SD will "brush the dirt off her shoulder".

I know I'm not everyone's cup of tea. That's okay. I know some people are put off by confident bitches like myself. That's okay too, I don't like every person I meet either and it's not like we HAVE to! Some people really like me and my attitude and think I'm great. That's okay as well. Like I said, it takes all sorts to make the world go 'round.

I'll admit that here. I certainly don't want you to feel bad about yourself. Of course not. I do find it attractive when a girl has confidence.

I came into this argument disliking you greatly. At this point, I don't dislike you at all. I think you and I have talked and had a good conversation. I don't think you and I would ever be best friends, as I see little in common. Not that I think you are looking to be my best mate. But I don't think we have to dislike each other either.

I hope that through this discussion you've learned something. I have as well.

And for what it's worth, none of the people that PM'd me did so with malicious intent. Some might have been annoyed at your posts and the way you react. But none of them did so with hopes that you were hurt or felt bad by it.

So to all those who told us we should shut our faces... Look a us. All kinds of progress was made.

Yeah, I learned quite a bit. And I agree. We'll never be friends...we are too polar opposite. But I think we can manage to be polite to each other in the future.
 
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Yeah, I learned quite a bit. And I agree. We'll never be friends...we are too polar opposite. But I think we can manage to be polite to each other in the future.

See there, haters?!? Progress. Beautiful, wonderful progress. Had we stopped talking some time ago, we would have just gone on from that point being annoyed with each other. Instead, we talked it out and at least came to understand each other a bit more.

Sunshine and rainbows and unicorns and shit.

http://20px.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/unicorn_pooping_a_rainbow_20px.jpg
 
See there, haters?!? Progress. Beautiful, wonderful progress. Had we stopped talking some time ago, we would have just gone on from that point being annoyed with each other. Instead, we talked it out and at least came to understand each other a bit more.

Sunshine and rainbows and unicorns and shit.

http://20px.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/unicorn_pooping_a_rainbow_20px.jpg

Is it my imagination or did that fag unicorn just shit a rainbow?!?

Next thing I know there'll be flying pigs here.

:D
 
How come I'm starting to see subdued passion as the "JBJ" type...?
 
Are you testing SD to see her reaction?!?

I just do not understand how anyone with even a quarter of a heart or a sliver or moral conviction could in good faith use the word "fag" like that.

It makes me so sad and reminds me of all the disgusting voice messages I used to get from angry prepubescent boys after I outnumbered their K/D ratio 3-1 on Halo. :rolleyes:

For the record, the rolly eyes emote was meant to be exasperated, not bitchy.
 

That's so cool!


Now, who's gonna explain to me why it's wrong to call a queer looking unicorn a fag? I mean look at that fuckin poofball. I bet all the other unicorns make swish noises everytime that pansy passes by.

You know what you should feel offended about? That pmann put a pic of SCAT! I mean that fairy crapped a rainbow out its ass and no one but me commented.
 
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