I believe I've had this thread coming for a while now

[TheEarl]

Oh, one other thing.

Men. We should be lauded and applauded for forgiving women of their sins. Women, who lie, cheat and steal to get ahead. Women who play soccer with men's hearts (and loins) to get what they want. Women who use their body to advance their careers, despite having all the talent of a dead goldfish.

Women, who know that their body is a weapon that men do not have, can wield great power simply by influencing a man of great power. Women who love you for a year, then take your house, your car and most of your paycheck when they leave to move onto their next victim. Goddamn golddiggers. Bitchy and catty women to whom no act is too low in order to achieve social success.

Women who sleep around when their husband is away simply because "they're lonely"

No, I don't actually agree with any of that crap - I just thought it might be fun to post the opposite argument. There's probably more sins of women that I can't think of right now, but I figure that's a start

<laughs> Do I get a gold medal for still liking womankind as a whole after having my head severely spun by my ex?

The Earl

 

[Guest]

Oi, Raphy, Earl, you arrogant, self-centred, mysogonistic bastards... Did you read my fucking post, or what?!

I'll flash my tits if you do.

 

[TheEarl]

Oi, Raphy, Earl, you arrogant, self-centred, mysogonistic bastards... Did you read my fucking post, or what?!

I'll flash my tits if you do.

You promised that before and you didn't deliver. I expect a picture e-mailed to me this time .

Anyway, who cares what you said. It only became a relevant discussion point when a man posted it.

Amicu... Sorry, I mean The Earl

 

[Svenskaflicka]

I don't mind men lusting after me and thinking about all the sexual acts they'd like to do with me - as long as they don't act towards me as if THAT was all I'm about.

I've got a brain, and I've got a heart. And even though I'm sexy as hell and can give fellatio that brings tears of happiness to a man's eyes, that's not what I MAINLY want to be noticed for.

That's the reason why I snarl at men wooping after me - they are leaving the safe area where they can sit and fantasize without hurting anyone, and entering into the RL, where walking up to me and asking me if I'd like to sneak into a public restroom with them, shows a clear disrespect for me as a human being, and degrades me to a sex object.

And no, while not ALL men are like this, sorry, but I'm fed up with stroking hair and apologizing if I sound harsh - if you're a man, then it's up to you to help women against those of your fellow men who think they have some divine right to insult or oppress women simply because they (the men) have 3 inches of meat dangling between their legs. Either you're part of the solution, or you're a part of the problem.

Are you on the women's side, or the jerks' side?

 

[raphy]

Oi, Raphy, Earl, you arrogant, self-centred, mysogonistic bastards... Did you read my fucking post, or what?!

I'll flash my tits if you do.

You posted something? I just look at your AV.

 

[Guest]

You promised that before and you didn't deliver. I expect a picture e-mailed to me this time .

Anyway, who cares what you said. It only became a relevant discussion point when a man posted it.

Amicu... Sorry, I mean The Earl

Heeeeeeeeeeheeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

Quite!

(You mean you never got the full set last time I did a mail run out to my full list? Damn unreliable email.)

 

[Guest]

You posted something? I just look at your AV.

As I said somewhere before in amongst this lot... I love men.

 

[Guest]

I don't mind men lusting after me and thinking about all the sexual acts they'd like to do with me - as long as they don't act towards me as if THAT was all I'm about.

I've got a brain, and I've got a heart. And even though I'm sexy as hell and can give fellatio that brings tears of happiness to a man's eyes, that's not what I MAINLY want to be noticed for.

That's the reason why I snarl at men wooping after me - they are leaving the safe area where they can sit and fantasize without hurting anyone, and entering into the RL, where walking up to me and asking me if I'd like to sneak into a public restroom with them, shows a clear disrespect for me as a human being, and degrades me to a sex object.

And no, while not ALL men are like this, sorry, but I'm fed up with stroking hair and apologizing if I sound harsh - if you're a man, then it's up to you to help women against those of your fellow men who think they have some divine right to insult or oppress women simply because they (the men) have 3 inches of meat dangling between their legs. Either you're part of the solution, or you're a part of the problem.

Are you on the women's side, or the jerks' side?

Look, you ignorant fuckers, another woman has posted. Take note!

 

[raphy]

Heeeeeeeeeeheeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

Quite!

(You mean you never got the full set last time I did a mail run out to my full list? Damn unreliable email.)

I want on this mailing list!

Actually, I just want on Lou (or under Lou, or behind Lou), but that's obviously much too misogynistic a thought

 

[cloudy]

As I said somewhere before in amongst this lot... I love men.

Amen, sister! Amen.

 

[Guest]

As I said somewhere before in amongst this lot... I love men.

Yes.


(But they didn't comment on my post, either. )

 

[Guest]

I want on this mailing list!

Actually, I just want on Lou (or under Lou, or behind Lou), but that's obviously much too misogynistic a thought

You know you're only saying that so you don't give away the fact that you already are. Oops!

Probably, but it works for me!

 

[raphy]

I don't mind men lusting after me and thinking about all the sexual acts they'd like to do with me - as long as they don't act towards me as if THAT was all I'm about.

I've got a brain, and I've got a heart. And even though I'm sexy as hell and can give fellatio that brings tears of happiness to a man's eyes, that's not what I MAINLY want to be noticed for.

That's the reason why I snarl at men wooping after me - they are leaving the safe area where they can sit and fantasize without hurting anyone, and entering into the RL, where walking up to me and asking me if I'd like to sneak into a public restroom with them, shows a clear disrespect for me as a human being, and degrades me to a sex object.

And no, while not ALL men are like this, sorry, but I'm fed up with stroking hair and apologizing if I sound harsh - if you're a man, then it's up to you to help women against those of your fellow men who think they have some divine right to insult or oppress women simply because they (the men) have 3 inches of meat dangling between their legs. Either you're part of the solution, or you're a part of the problem.

Are you on the women's side, or the jerks' side?

Mmm, Sorry 'flicka, I don't buy the 'You're either with us or you're aganist us' thing. I never have, regardless of what problem it was talking about. It sounds too much like an ultimatum to me, and I don't like ultimatums.

I act the way I act towards women, and I hope that I set some sort of example to the neanderthals of this world. *You* can label me as with you or against you if you like.

I'm on nobody's side but my own.

 

[raphy]

Yes.


(But they didn't comment on my post, either. )

I just look at your AV, too.

 

[Guest]

Amen, sister! Amen.

Yes.


(But they didn't comment on my post, either. )

Wankers!

 

[raphy]

On a more serious note - You ladies are right. To a greater extent, us men have ignored your posts in this thread and directed our answers mainly at the other men here.

This may be because the thread was started as a man, and subconsciously we feel it's an "in house" problem. We'll take care of it ourselves, by taking the offender out the back and breaking his knees.

A claim could be made that this is a perfect example of a misogynistic (dear god, I have never typed that word so fucking much in my life before this thread) attitude, except that I think regardless of what the argument is about, social cliques like to keep things in-house. (Just so happens that this time, the dividing line is gender, nor level of eduaction or finances, or color, or race)

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Mmm, Sorry 'flicka, I don't buy the 'You're either with us or you're aganist us' thing. I never have, regardless of what problem it was talking about. It sounds too much like an ultimatum to me, and I don't like ultimatums.

I act the way I act towards women, and I hope that I set some sort of example to the neanderthals of this world. *You* can label me as with you or against you if you like.

I'm on nobody's side but my own.

I'm afraid it doesn't work that way, raphy m'boy! You're either alive, or you're dead. You're either oppressing women, or you're trying to stop oppression against women. You hint that you're trying to set an example to neanderthals by your own actions, but do you ever speak up? Or do you laugh when someone tells a misogynic joke?

 

[Guest]

Or do you laugh when someone tells a misogynic joke?

I know I do.

Seriously, women need to act as they want to be treated: i.e. as powerful, empowered beings, not as weak victims.

I'm not some victim of men, and never will be. They, are the other hand...

Come into my parlour, said the spider to the fly.

Lou

P.S. I'm ignoring Raphy, and keeping this in-house.

 

[raphy]

*shakes his head*

No. The world, to me, is not as black and white as that. You cannot label a man by a single action. What if I was to object to one sexist joke one day, and laugh at one the next? Would I be being "fake"? Hypocritical? Is that inconsistent? Maybe to a crusader whereby the world is seen as thsoe two polar opposites, but I am no crusader. So label me as being 'against the cause' if you wish, but I treat everyone as how I would wish to be treated.

There *is* a middle ground. I walk it every day.

 

[Guest]

A claim could be made that this is a perfect example of a misogynistic (dear god, I have never typed that word so fucking much in my life before this thread)

I know I keep wandering off topic, and I know I said I was gonna ignore you, but I have just GOT to say this: I've typed it just once, and I spelt it wrong.

As for the middle ground, yep, it exists, and I know many men (and women!) who walk it.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

And as long as you turn away your head, you don't have to witness the woman getting harassed over there...

I'm gonna follow Lou's example and ignore you on this, raphy. We're not gonna get along otherwise.

 

[raphy]

And as long as you turn away your head, you don't have to witness the woman getting harassed over there...

I'm gonna follow Lou's example and ignore you on this, raphy. We're not gonna get along otherwise.

*grins*

I could have predicted that a long time ago. I'm well aware of your views on this particular issue - You've made them public for a while now. My view of moderation does not fit with your 'you're with us or you're against us' view.

That's okay. I can deal with that if you can. *offers an olive branch*

Just as an aside, (and a sincere question) do you see every issue as a 'you're with us or you're against us' type of thing?

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Only recently... I'm usually a "it depends" kind of person, but these days, I'm not in a very compromising mood.

 

[raphy]

Only recently... I'm usually a "it depends" kind of person, but these days, I'm not in a very compromising mood.

*nods*

Whereas compromise is the very soul of my being!!!

Tee hee

I still love ya

*hugs*

p.s. Of course, if a compromise can't be worked out, I've never been afraid of wading into the fight, both arms swingin'

 

[Svenskaflicka]

...which differs you from most other men, raphy, because they have a completely different body part swinging as they walk...