I'm turning from lesbian to bisexual.

[PricelessT]

The only inane arguments here are yours, as everyone in this thread seems to agree. Such as your saying "If it disagrees with you OPINION then you completely discount it," when that is exactly what you do. Every damn time. Everyone tells you this all the time, that you wear blinders and ignore facts. Just like you're doing now. "Lesbian" does not only refer to "exclusively attracted," but also "predominantly attracted" (as in 99.9%, for example) and I have displayed that fact time and time again with reliable sources. But what do you do? Act as though bisexuals in a forum made it up, and proclaim that anyone who mentions this fact and/or supports it is bisexual. Really, since we're speaking of definitions, you are the very definition of "turning a blind eye." Absolutely ridiculous that you never see and/or refuse to acknowledge this recurring flaw of yours. Seriously, how many times do I have to make a joke out of your posts? One would think you'd be tired of such embarrassment by now.

EDITED TO ADD: And the dictionary is not a definitive reference on sexuality or sexual orientation, you idiot! Dictionary definitions even vary in how they define lesbian; most don't even say "exclusively."

 

[Safe_Bet]

The only inane arguments here are yours, as everyone in this thread seems to agree. Such as your saying "If it disagrees with you OPINION then you completely discount it," when that is exactly what you do. Every damn time. Everyone tells you this all the time, that you wear blinders and ignore facts. Just like you're doing now. "Lesbian" does not only refer to "exclusively attracted," but also "predominantly attracted" (as in 99.9%, for example) and I have displayed that fact time and time again with reliable sources. But what do you do? Act as though bisexuals in a forum made it up, and proclaim that anyone who mentions this fact and/or supports it is bisexual. Really, since we're speaking of definitions, you are the very definition of "turning a blind eye." Absolutely ridiculous that you never see and/or refuse to acknowledge this recurring flaw of yours. Seriously, how many times do I have to make a joke out of your posts? One would think you'd be tired of such embarrassment by now.

Guess I was wrong. You just sunk to a new level of inane-ness! Congrats!


P.S. Taking my words and turning them around IS getting a little tiresome though. Think you can't find something original to say one of these days???

 

[PricelessT]

yes, safebet is rude, and she calls people "defensive" when they mention that fact.

So now you know what to expect from her.

Not everyone agrees with her, though. MOST people experiences a sexual attraction they weren't expecting, at some time in their lives. Straight folk get blindsided by someone of the same sex. Gay people somehow find themselves noticing someone of the opposite sex.

Big word!! You know what to expect from the cranky ole troll now, Laplaciana. You didn't look at a man this way until now, but, according to Safe_Bet and her selective dictionary definition, that makes you bisexual. I suppose all researchers should use the same methodology as Safe_Bet.

 

[PricelessT]

Guess I was wrong. You just sunk to a new level of inane-ness! Congrats!


P.S. Taking my words and turning them around IS getting a little tiresome though. Think you can't find something original to say one of these days???

More inane-ness from the grumpy lesbian who thinks her lesbian card gives her the right to play victim and treat people like trash. And taking your words and using them on you?! Laughing my ass off!! No. This is what I and others always say about you. It is you who took them and used them, albeit idiotically, for your retort. And if anyone lacks originality, it's you. You essentially say the same thing in every thread. Every frequent poster or lurker on this board knows this.

 

[Etoile]

"Lesbian" does not only refer to "exclusively attracted," but also "predominantly attracted" (as in 99.9%, for example)

Am I still a lesbian if I want to have Ian McKellan's double-gay love children? Plz hurry I need to know!

 

[PricelessT]

LOL, Etoile, you already answered that on Page 1, and I agreed on Page 2.

 

[Safe_Bet]

Am I still a lesbian if I want to have Ian McKellan's double-gay love children? Plz hurry I need to know!

Depends. Do you honestly find him to be sexually attractive?

Are you saying you agree with redefining terms "just cuz you want to"????

Of equal importance, do you feel that it's "her private matter" if your SO is feeling sexual & romantically attracted to some dude???

 

[rbone04]

Against My Better Judgement...

...Are you saying you agree with redefining terms "just cuz you want to"???...

Jeebus! Your arguments just get more inane!

So in other words, you just don't care what the definitive reference on the meaning of words says. If it disagrees with you OPINION then you completely discount it.

Nice blinders, BTW. They match your shoes too!

First of all, Safe_Bet, as a woman who is so dedicated to making her opinion known to all, I am SHOCKED to realize that you view your sexuality as but a mere word? Furthermore, you insist the most accurate way to "define" it is to dare not look any further than THE DICTIONARY?! You mean all Alfred Kinsey, Michael Storms, and Fritz Klein had to do - rather than dedicate their lives to understanding the complexities of human sexuality - was ask Merriam Fucking Webster?!

Do you even realize that the first sentence of your quote directly contradicts the second? You accuse others of being intolerant of your views because everyone here believes their sexuality is FAR more important to them than to suggest it can be explained by a "definitive reference". Oh and speaking of having "blinders" on, surely you realize that the word definitive is defined as an adjective that means most reliable or complete as well as providing a solution or final answer. You seem to be demanding that we all should bow down and realize that you are so in tune with what it means to be a lesbian, that you are the only one who can tell us how we are allowed to understandwhat we are. That is...

Every one of us is unique and on a mission to show the world that we are all together and proud of all things that bring us pleasure. Forget about whether we have a cock, pussy, mouth, or ass that may or may not prefer coming in contact with any combination of all of the above... Realize we are all just PEOPLE who seek HAPPINESS AND PLEASURE from their PRIDE. We cherish our identity and do so BECAUSE it will never be confined to a finite definition of homosexual or heterosexual. You, on the other hand, are standing in our way.

You stormed into this conversation with a hateful, condescending tone and have done nothing but throw heterophobic rage or just plain jibberish in everyone's face. You are clearly an unhappy person. How can you speak the way you do, to people who have come to you hoping for nothing more than an ounce of decency and kindness, and honestly say you are proud to be who you are?

 

[PricelessT]

Told her that. Like I stated, everyone tells her that, in one way or another. But she keeps on the same way she always has.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Told her that. Like I stated, everyone tells her that, in one way or another. But she keeps on the same way she always has.

Sweetie, of course she does!

Why expect anything different? She's just trolling on the internet.

 

[rbone04]

Lesson Learned

Sweetie, of course she does!

Why expect anything different? She's just trolling on the internet.

You know I wish I would have thought to look back at her old posts BEFORE I got all up in arms and wasted my time with her. Its funny how most of her comments about hetero/bisexuals trend towards... Oh I don't know, say... something a member of Westboro Baptist Church would have towards the GLBT community.

 

[John Doe]

Let me rephrase it for you then:

Why does a self proclaimed hetero feel the need to state the fact in the middle of a discussion like this one?

Better???

Point of view is always relevant to discussions of subjective topics.

 

[Safe_Bet]

Told her that. Like I stated, everyone tells her that, in one way or another. But she keeps on the same way she always has.

Sweetie, of course she does!

Why expect anything different? She's just trolling on the internet.

Gee Stella, it's just TOO cute how you're talking to your own alt. Maybe you two "I'm really a lesbian, even if I DO like dick"-ers should get together... No, wait... that would just be you diddling yourself wouldn't it!

 

[Safe_Bet]

You know I wish I would have thought to look back at her old posts BEFORE I got all up in arms and wasted my time with her. Its funny how most of her comments about hetero/bisexuals trend towards... Oh I don't know, say... something a member of Westboro Baptist Church would have towards the GLBT community.

Maybe because you are a bi poser, and can go hide with the heteros when things get ugly, you have no idea how offense that statement about WBC is to someone who's gay or lesbian.

I have no idea who you are dude, but by that comment alone you've proven yourself to be a dispicable punk. So fuck off, will ya?

 

[PricelessT]

You're such an idiot!! Everyone who disagrees with you and/or dislikes you is an alternate account of themselves? I believe you truly believe that, too, which just further shows how delusional you are. Stella has been in this forum for much longer than me, and, when I showed up, you two still generally got along (from what I saw anyway). I showed up talking about a sexual act Stella hadn't engaged in often and seemingly not at all (genital-to-genital tribadism), blasting your idiotic posts that lesbians don't partake in this act (in fact, right now, I'm going to go resurrect one of the threads showing that they do), and you simply brushed me off, said it was your wife who was posting back then (even though the typing and insult style was yours), and accused me of being a man. That's right, those who don't know; if you're not an alternate account, you're a man, according to Safe Bet. As if Stella would start an alternate account just to talk about genital-to-genital tribadism and blast you, and use that account to start posting research type of posts. Laughing my ass off indeed!! I like dick, you say? Laughing even harder.

 

[rbone04]

Maybe because you are a bi poser, and can go hide with the heteros when things get ugly, you have no idea how offense that statement about WBC is to someone who's gay or lesbian.

I have no idea who you are dude, but by that comment alone you've proven yourself to be a dispicable punk. So fuck off, will ya?

1) You will never have the pleasure of knowing who I am. I do not care to get to know close-minded individuals who boast in their hatred for the world.

2) Maybe you misunderstood the point of my posts. I don't believe anyone else did, as I have received NUMEROUS PM's from members of this thread who have thanked me for my statements... I'm saying you're holier-than-thou attitude and your self-proclaimed (see bolded) hatred towards bisexuals and heterosexuals is as offensive to ME as people who oppress homosexuals. Thus, you disgust me as much, if not more than the haters of WBC.

Despite the fact that I have been openly bisexual for more than 10 years, I have managed to remain happy with who I am and challenge everyone who doesn't understand or even despises my lifestyle. Moreover, I have NEVER used hatred as my weapon of choice.

I am entertained by your accusation that I am a "bi poser", as I have shared my sexuality with EVERY partner and loved one in my life. Do you have any idea how hard it is to explain to a straight woman (I know... gross) that you fall madly in love with the first time you lay eyes on her that your last long-term relationship was with a man? No... Because you are incapable of compassion and acceptance of anyone else's struggles but your own. You must be a sad, lonely woman. I feel very sorry for you.

 

[rbone04]

Does your dictionary define the phrase: "The Oppressed Become the Oppressor"?

Mine doesn't... But then again "Bi Poser" wasn't in there either.

 

[Safe_Bet]

Does your dictionary define the phrase: "The Oppressed Become the Oppressor"?

Mine doesn't... But then again "Bi Poser" wasn't in there either.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Dude, you REALLY need to get a grip! Dislike, distrust, an unwillingness to be used & lied to and trying to set one of Stella Bi-Buddy Alts straight regarding making up her own definition of terms ain't oppression. That you can even say so just shows you've never experienced it. Your feigned "disgust" is nothing more than a cover for you having made an accusation that any member of the GLBT community would find abhorrent. Yet instead of apologizing for saying something so reprehensible, you repeat it! So then let ME repeat myself: Go fuck off, punk!

BTW, if your trying to impress me with getting PMs from Stella or her alt WorthlessT then forget about it. That they feel the need to agitate and scheme their little schemes via PM speaks volumes about them.

 

[PricelessT]

Idiot. Can't be said enough.

You see how warped her line of thinking is, rbone04? I'm an "alt" of Stella in her mind. Everyone who disagrees with and/or dislikes Safe_Bet is, despite it being a ridiculous accusation that I'm Stella (for the reasons I mentioned above) and that there is the matter that the posters (including me and Stella) have different posting styles/interests. Not to mention, I'm quite sure that administrator Etoile can see that we are not the same person from our IP addresses (as another poster Safe_Bet accused of being an "alt" told Safe_Bet before). But Safe_Bet probably just thinks we're using proxies (if she's ever heard of proxies), even though proxies can be detected as well. Sigh.

 

[Laplaciana]

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Dude, you REALLY need to get a grip! Dislike, distrust, an unwillingness to be used & lied to and trying to set one of Stella Bi-Buddy Alts straight regarding making up her own definition of terms ain't oppression. That you can even say so just shows you've never experienced it. Your feigned "disgust" is nothing more than a cover for you having made an accusation that any member of the GLBT community would find abhorrent. Yet instead of apologizing for saying something so reprehensible, you repeat it! So then let ME repeat myself: Go fuck off, punk!

BTW, if your trying to impress me with getting PMs from Stella or her alt WorthlessT then forget about it. That they feel the need to agitate and scheme their little schemes via PM speaks volumes about them.

Would you care to enlighten us on the subject of what she said? What is this accusation that every member of the GLBT community would find abhorrent?
I simply don't see it. The way I see it, you're the one who's being reprehensible here.

It's downright indecent of you to go after a person, who is struggling with something she discovered about herself, with such venom. It makes you look like somebody who gets off on causing people distress.
Whatever your personal prejudices and little bigotries may be, I would thank you to not take them out on people, who come here in search of advice.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I doubt safe bet thinks anything like that.

Somewhere she picked up the notion that she could use "alt" as a weapon in her trolling attacks, that's all. Along with all the other dialectic she's picked up and then turns on its head.

 

[Laplaciana]

Jeebus! Your arguments just get more inane!

So in other words, you just don't care what the definitive reference on the meaning of words says. If it disagrees with you OPINION then you completely discount it.

Nice blinders, BTW. They match your shoes too!

PricelessT actually has a point. What you are is not necessarily the same as what you define yourself as. There are plenty of women who define themselves as men, and men who define themselves as women. Even before operations. Are you going to go after the trans community as well?

Some people are attracted to the same sex, but not enough and not to enough of them, to warrant an entire identity change. It's a pain to do; you have to tell your family; tell your friends; get new mugs, t-shirts, bumper stickers and screen savers, ...

 

[John Doe]

PricelessT actually has a point. What you are is not necessarily the same as what you define yourself as. There are plenty of women who define themselves as men, and men who define themselves as women. Even before operations. Are you going to go after the trans community as well?

Some people are attracted to the same sex, but not enough and not to enough of them, to warrant an entire identity change. It's a pain to do; you have to tell your family; tell your friends; get new mugs, t-shirts, bumper stickers and screen savers, ...

Don't forget the newsletters.

 

[Laplaciana]

Big word!! You know what to expect from the cranky ole troll now, Laplaciana. You didn't look at a man this way until now, but, according to Safe_Bet and her selective dictionary definition, that makes you bisexual. I suppose all researchers should use the same methodology as Safe_Bet.

I've grown to expect this behaviour from her. I wonder what happened to her to make her this way. I tried to see her point of view in the beginning. Alas, she doesn't appear to have one.

You're right, our identity is more than just who we're attracted to. Mine is still set on lesbian. I don't feel straight when I'm with a man. I feel like I'm on a carnival. That's not likely to change any time soon. It's a vaguely surreal feeling to be judged like this and being told that I'm not a real lesbian anymore.

 

[Safe_Bet]

I've grown to expect this behaviour from her. I wonder what happened to her to make her this way. I tried to see her point of view in the beginning. Alas, she doesn't appear to have one.

You're right, our identity is more than just who we're attracted to. Mine is still set on lesbian. I don't feel straight when I'm with a man. I feel like I'm on a carnival. That's not likely to change any time soon. It's a vaguely surreal feeling to be judged like this and being told that I'm not a real lesbian anymore.

Feel surreal all you want, sugarplum. That doesn't change anything or alter definitions.

Lesbians exclusively have romantic sex with women.
Bisexuals non exclusively have romantic sex with both men & women.
YOU (based on you comments) have romantic sex with both men & women.

You can SAY you're a lesbian all you want, but that don't make you one! You're bi = deal with it! (all I ask is that you disclose the fact to any real lesbians with whom you are interested in having romantic sex. They have a right to their choices as well!)


WTF is it with bi chicks that they feel the need to mislead others by misrepresenting themselves? Being a dyke ain't like being in some cool sorority or anything. Why are you so ashamed of admitting that you're bisexual?