Long time lesbian...now I'm confused.

[chun_gong]

LOL

if they ever do that, then let the person who has no sin, throw the first rock. And screw them I would love to protect you

chun_gong: I think you are a cool lady/woman/girl/female creature etc.

Thank you.

Oh yeah, JERK! Thanks for the labels...who do you think you are? I've decided it is primate now. (Changing more often than my panties)

 

[PredatorSmile]

LOL

if they ever do that, then let the person who has no sin, throw the first rock. And screw them I would love to protect you

chun_gong: I think you are a cool lady/woman/girl/female creature etc.

I agree about labels being worthless. Wolfman : I think you are a cool gentleman/man/boy/male entity, ect.

 

[Wolfman1982]

Hmmm I am born in 1982 and I am a male. With XY chromosome, then you can choose the label you want

PredatorSmile: did you feel left out ? because I gave chun_gong a compliment ?

 

[WriterDom]

She also doesn't know that I read erotica. QUOTE]

Well, she didn't know.

 

[chun_gong]

Just like she didn't just read this post...

She also doesn't know that I read erotica.

Well, she didn't know.

 

[Wolfman1982]

Chun_Gong: could you tell predatorsmile, that she is cool , if she feels left out ?

Since I am going hit the bed now. And I really think she is a cool woman

Anyway goodnight all, I am off.

 

[chun_gong]

Chun_Gong: could you tell predatorsmile, that she is cool , if she feels left out ?

Since I am going hit the bed now. And I really think she is a cool woman

Anyway goodnight all, I am off.

lol Goodnite - sleep tight!

And, so that both wolfman & predatorsmile feel better...ummm predatorsmile, you are cool. please don't feel left out. actually, you have contributed quite a lot to this thread.

 

[Etoile]

I think a lot of people in this thread have made great contributions.

As for the circle thing, I think the reference was to the fact that lesbians supposedly have a tendency to fuck people they know. If you have ever seen the L Word, this is what Alice refers to with her "chart" of lesbians who have all had sex with each other. You can see an example here. There was even an episode called "The Chart" I believe.

 

[kbate]

Unless it's dyke cocksucking, of course! I have seen some HOT girl-on-girl cocksucking scenes. I've even been involved in at least one. Oh yeah!.

Blech...

We are good old fashioned boring vanilla whip, chain and silk restraint girls. We do not generally use phallic simulaters in our lovemaking.

However, as an amusement I could possibly enjoy such activity.

 

[Etoile]

Blech...

We are good old fashioned boring vanilla whip, chain and silk restraint girls. We do not generally use phallic simulaters in our lovemaking.

However, as an amusement I could possibly enjoy such activity.

Hey, everybody's different. My wife and I personally do enjoy penetration (I do more than she does) so we do it. Dildos make things interesting sometimes in ways that fingers can't. But it's a personal preference thing, I'm sure.

 

[angelstar123]

I've watched this thread for days and sometimes I smiled, other times I shook my head. So, you're a lesbian who finds herself somewhat curious about men ? Well, I was in your shoes a while ago. I've only had relationships with girls, and then suddenly found myself attracted to a boy. Not just any boy, a straight-laced macho jock ( who was secretly bisexual). We began hanging out and later dated. I'm in love with him and we're getting a place together after my graduation. He's still a junior in college. I'm a senior. I gotta tell you that my feelings for him surprised me. Try being the dykiest dyke at school and the VP of the GLBT Alliance and then falling in love with a guy...I lost friends. My gay guys didn't care. My lesbian friends treated me the way Hitler treated his
fallen enemies...coldly and mercilessly. It hurt my feelings. But I got over it. I made new friends. I now identify as bi and I am STILL the GLBT Alliance Vice President !!!!

That's interesting that you said that. I was in college with someone who did the same thing. She came out to whole class during a speech presentation and later dated one of the guys in the class later. No one in the alliance really know how to respond that. She got the same crap from people in the group, especially some of the lesbians in the group. She dealt with it though. I have been with men in the past, because it something that a child growing up in a pentacostal household, is suppose to do. I havent been with any man in last 6 years. When i did come out totally, I thought I was really sure about being 100% lesbian. Now I am not that sure. I have been attacked also by friends and a sister based on that idea of being a man. My partner came to conclusion just from talking that i am more likely bi and she is ok with that. Being in very loving committed relationship, all I can do about it have fantasies like that. In my case, I made vows to this person and I plan to stick by them. I am too overly jealous sometimes, not to. I have chatted with guys online, but never went any further and dont plan to. I am glad that you did get over that like this other person did. i am sure it was a challenge.

 

[kbate]

Dildos make things interesting sometimes in ways that fingers can't. But it's a personal preference thing, I'm sure.

Nothing wrong with the occasional misplacement of a toy though.

 

[Mr. Mann]

Speaking from the perspective of a guy who would be labeled straight...

I've seen the backlash from some lesbians against others who "made a visit to the other team", as it were.

It has always pained my heart a great deal.

I've seen so many people struggle with themselves in accepting their homosexuality and then struggling with the world to be accepted as a homosexual.

And then to see people whom I would hope would be more senstivie to accepting people for who they were, and who had some insight about confusion regarding one's gender and/or sexuality who then react so harshly. - I always remind myself how hurt they must feel on some level to react that way.

But it still bites and I hate to see it.

I also hate to see that some, instead, will deny themselves and repress certain things to avoid (often yet again) losing friends, family, and support.

Anyway... no real point to this other than to offer my deepest and strongest support to anyone who has struggled with this. to each of you.

 

[sexy-girl]

in my opinion it's not that unusual for straight persons to have same sex fantasizes without ever wishing to act on them or acting on them with only one off encounters (no relationships) ... i mean you only have to look at these boards with some of the posts made to see examples

it often seems that when they do they totally sexualize the person to the extent of making the person seem more like an object (and sometimes only one body part) ... so why can't gay persons experience the same thing?

for me i do think labels are useful if they aren't imposed on someone who isn't willing ... but i don't really know how to label this type of thing ... to me if you don't want to ever be in a relationship with a woman you aren't lesbian enough for me and hearing you say you're totally not interested in a man for a relationship sounds similar


however would it really be so bad if you were bisexual without ever wanting relationships with men? ... a surprisingly number of bisexual women on here seemed to say although they were bisexual they wouldn't have a relationship with another woman

 

[PredatorSmile]

in my opinion it's not that unusual for straight persons to have same sex fantasizes without ever wishing to act on them or acting on them with only one off encounters (no relationships) ... i mean you only have to look at these boards with some of the posts made to see examples

it often seems that when they do they totally sexualize the person to the extent of making the person seem more like an object (and sometimes only one body part) ... so why can't gay persons experience the same thing?

for me i do think labels are useful if they aren't imposed on someone who isn't willing ... but i don't really know how to label this type of thing ... to me if you don't want to ever be in a relationship with a woman you aren't lesbian enough for me and hearing you say you're totally not interested in a man for a relationship sounds similar


however would it really be so bad if you were bisexual without ever wanting relationships with men? ... a surprisingly number of bisexual women on here seemed to say although they were bisexual they wouldn't have a relationship with another woman

I guess I know how it is to be on both sides of these issues. I've had relationships on both sides of the fence and I simply follow my heart and love who I love, man or woman. It has never led me astray.

 

[Etoile]

Piggybacking on sexy-girl's post, it's interesting how insistent people can be about labeling others. If a guy says "I'm straight, but I'd like to try sucking a cock someday," we have a tendency to tell him he MUST be bisexual or at least bi-curious. (Although that does make one wonder where guys on the DL fit in.) But why can't we just say he's a straight guy who wants to suck a cock? Why can't we believe him that he's heterosexual until HE decides otherwise?

 

[Luna_Wolf72]

Piggybacking on sexy-girl's post, it's interesting how insistent people can be about labeling others. If a guy says "I'm straight, but I'd like to try sucking a cock someday," we have a tendency to tell him he MUST be bisexual or at least bi-curious. (Although that does make one wonder where guys on the DL fit in.) But why can't we just say he's a straight guy who wants to suck a cock? Why can't we believe him that he's heterosexual until HE decides otherwise?

I think that's thing about labels..and it's why I don't like em.

As I said earlier I am lesbian with hetero leanings. In my heart I know I enjoy *playing* with guys, they play my way more often then women..but when it comes to emotional love and attachment..well I need a woman for that. (Therefore I can't be bisexual in my own mind...as I do have a preference...for women). Yet, the fact that I have played (and probably will play) with men means most people view me as bisexual.

It's why I understood the original question so well, and why I hope her relationship has a happy ending..mine sure didn't!

 

[PredatorSmile]

I think that's thing about labels..and it's why I don't like em.

As I said earlier I am lesbian with hetero leanings. In my heart I know I enjoy *playing* with guys, they play my way more often then women..but when it comes to emotional love and attachment..well I need a woman for that. (Therefore I can't be bisexual in my own mind...as I do have a preference...for women). Yet, the fact that I have played (and probably will play) with men means most people view me as bisexual.

It's why I understood the original question so well, and why I hope her relationship has a happy ending..mine sure didn't!

Wait a sec. You will "play" with both sexes but only feel emotional love and attachment for both ? Wow. I'm not like that at all. I feel love and attachment (and anger) for both, actually. Both have made me smile, glow,
cry and roar. Sex with both is fun but it's never just about 'play' with me.
No matter who my partner is.

 

[John Doe]

Look at the posts made by bi and bicurious men to lit. (no offense guys, I love ya...but this is the trend I spot

About 80% and often higher percentages of these guys are into dick, but not into the guy attached to the dick.

It's totally cool. There's no reason you can't be wired that way too.

Is it possible she's a bisexal man trapped in a lesbian's body?

 

[Luna_Wolf72]

Wait a sec. You will "play" with both sexes but only feel emotional love and attachment for one ? Wow. I'm not like that at all. I feel love and attachment (and anger) for both, actually. Both have made me smile, glow,
cry and roar. Sex with both is fun but it's never just about 'play' with me.
No matter who my partner is.

Ahh when I say play I mean in a BDSM context and not just plain vanilla sex. Guys play rough..usually a bit more rough then females (at least from MY experiece). Mayhap my upbringing has something to do with my preferences but in reality I just don't trust men enough to go there (emotionally, mentally) with them. They are fine for play partners (great in fact) but for every day needs and wants..I choose a woman.

 

[Wolfman1982]

Is it possible she's a bisexal man trapped in a lesbian's body?

WTF ? lol oh dear LOL

By the way , are you serious now ? and you won´t get all cranked up, like last time, when you made a thread, and went berzerk on me ?

 

[Wolfman1982]

Ahh when I say play I mean in a BDSM context and not just plain vanilla sex. Guys play rough..usually a bit more rough then females (at least from MY experiece). Mayhap my upbringing has something to do with my preferences but in reality I just don't trust men enough to go there (emotionally, mentally) with them. They are fine for play partners (great in fact) but for every day needs and wants..I choose a woman.

Play with me, in a non BDSM way, and I will show you, that some men are just as soft as women. And some men wants to please women in every way possible, even just kiss, and cuddle for hours, since I really hate being a rough bulldog all the time.

And by the way, I would rather have an hour long foreplay, than the actual fucking. but hey that is just me

 

[John Doe]

WTF ? lol oh dear LOL

By the way , are you serious now ? and you won´t get all cranked up, like last time, when you made a thread, and went berzerk on me ?

Don't act like an imbecile and I won't have to go Postal on your ass.

 

[gingermango]

Don't act like an imbecile and I won't have to go Postal on your ass.

Are you always such an attention whore, or do you just take delight in hijacking a thread?

 

[chun_gong]

Is it possible she's a bisexal man trapped in a lesbian's body?

I am now "lurking" on the thread that I started... the advice has been useful - so now I shall lurk.

BUT - this was tff! I couldn't resist the laugh. Thank you!

(Luna & Etoile, as always, you have given such wonderful insight! sexy-girl...now THAT is some food for thought. )