New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani

[ll74]

Daily check in - has NYC burned to the ground yet? Any more planes into buildings?

No?

Weird...

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

A leading New York rabbi responds to the election of Zohran Mamdani.

He praises Mamdani’s progressive economic agenda, but calls out the mayor-elect for his illiberal antizionism.

It’s half an hour long, but he does a great job of explaining why Jews are apprehensive about Mamdani. You can’t just wave away his criticism as “Islamophobia”.

 

[Rotadom]

Send him back!

 

[Rotadom]

his illiberal antizionism.

You can’t just wave away his criticism as “Islamophobia”.

But you can call him a illiberal antizionist.

You're a .

 

[DeluxAuto]

Only one reason for that, Your team Biden/Harris were that bad. That won't last long now that peace is breaking out in the Mideast. Omar like Mamdani hate America.

Look at all the peace breaking out!

 

[RobDownSouth]

Daily check in - has NYC burned to the ground yet? Any more planes into buildings?

No?

Weird...

Ishmael is reporting a "run on condos in Florida".
No citation of course.

 

[dkovic77]

Ishmael is reporting a "run on condos in Florida".
No citation of course.

Always a fun place that Florida. While the MAGA pubs have spiked health costs, property insurance in FLA is already there.

Good job Gov Rob. Only thing going up in Florida is the height of his elevator boots.

 

[Hel_Books]

Muslims aren't filthy?........ okay?......... ask any prepubessent girl that has been "sold" to a greasey, abusive, 60 year old Muslim man for his wife, ask any female under Islamic control what happens if she is caught without her burka..... ask any female under Islamic control about female genital mutilation ....... and the list continues....
One more item, ask any of the viciously murdered Christians in Syria, or Africa how fucking good Islam is.......

Sure, there are bad people who are Moslems. Just like there are bad people who are Christians, Jews, Hindus, Atheists, etc. etc. etc.

Personally, I believe ALL religion is a bad thing. You can find examples everywhere, from Srebrenica to those burning crosses in your own pious country.

If you're going to hate on the next mayor of your largest city because of his religion, rather than his policies, then you're just a bigot, pure and simple.

 

[Bray123]

Muslims aren't filthy?........ okay?......... ask any prepubessent girl that has been "sold" to a greasey, abusive, 60 year old Muslim man for his wife, ask any female under Islamic control what happens if she is caught without her burka..... ask any female under Islamic control about female genital mutilation ....... and the list continues....
One more item, ask any of the viciously murdered Christians in Syria, or Africa how fucking good Islam is.......

So you're saying it's OK for those girls to be sold by Epstein to Trump because he took a shower.

 

[John_von_Neumann]

Ishmael is reporting a "run on condos in Florida".
No citation of course.

Scarily accurate. This is just the kind of epistemic bad faith I've come to expect from Ishtard.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

But you can call him a illiberal antizionist.

You're a .

Mamdani calls himself an antizionist.

Zionism is the movement for Jews to have self-determination in our indigenous homeland. Supporting indigenous rights is very much a liberal position, and it’s weird that Mamdani opposes indigenous rights for Jews. He doesn’t oppose the Greeks or the Japanese having their own nations.

 

[Rotadom]

Mamdani calls himself an antizionist.

Show us where, .

 

[ll74]

Mamdani calls himself an antizionist.

Zionism is the movement for Jews to have self-determination in our indigenous homeland. Supporting indigenous rights is very much a liberal position, and it’s weird that Mamdani opposes indigenous rights for Jews. He doesn’t oppose the Greeks or the Japanese having their own nations.

Oh fun...you're arguing over definitions of terms again.....that's productive

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Oh fun...you're arguing over definitions of terms again.....that's productive

If you support the Jews having a nation in their ethnic homeland, you’re a Zionist. That’s what Zionism has always meant. Most antizionists are quite upfront about calling for the eradication of Israel.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Show us where, .

Watch the video I linked to. Rabbi Hirsh quotes Mamdani’s own words. If the mayor-elect has had a change of heart and now supports the existence of the Jewish state, now would be a good time to clarify his position.

 

[ll74]

If you support the Jews having a nation in their ethnic homeland, you’re a Zionist. That’s what Zionism has always meant. Most antizionists are quite upfront about calling for the eradication of Israel.

i don't truly care about the definition of shit. When people hate, they find ways to ignore those.

No human being should seek the death of another.

Beliefs about being right or wrong are irrelevant.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

i don't truly care about the definition of shit. When people hate, they find ways to ignore those.

No human being should seek the death of another.

Beliefs about being right or wrong are irrelevant.

The Free Palestine movement has spent decades building a belief structure to justify killing Jews. They tell lots of lies about Israel: Saying that it’s an “apartheid state”. Saying that it’s committing “genocide”, saying that the Jews are “colonizers”.

It’s no fun pushing back against all the libels, and you being a pissy junior mod doesn’t help the cause of justice.

 

[ll74]

The Free Palestine movement has spent decades building a belief structure to justify killing Jews. They tell lots of lies about Israel: Saying that it’s an “apartheid state”. Saying that it’s committing “genocide”, saying that the Jews are “colonizers”.

It’s no fun pushing back against all the libels, and you being a pissy junior mod doesn’t help the cause of justice.

Yes, I get that you have opposition that you need to point out.

I don't need to qualify which person calls for the death of another.....or which group. I'm against them.

 

[Lazaran]

A leading New York rabbi responds to the election of Zohran Mamdani.

He praises Mamdani’s progressive economic agenda, but calls out the mayor-elect for his illiberal antizionism.

It’s half an hour long, but he does a great job of explaining why Jews are apprehensive about Mamdani. You can’t just wave away his criticism as “Islamophobia”.

Very illuminating / informative (and rather disturbing).

The part of the video where the Rabbi warned about a uniting of "the left" & "the right" over their shared hatred of Jews & Israel was on point, and something that has concerned me for some time - though my concerns INCLUDE "the left" & "the right" ALSO uniting over their shared anti-LGBTQ bigotry (hatred) AND their shared misogyny / machismo (hatred / demeaning of women). Note: There are even some American Jews who voted for Trump over Kamala for "reasons".

One thing is certain: The MAGAt coalition is the ugliest coalition in existence- a veritable axis of evil.



We. Told. Then. So.

 

[Bray123]

If you support the Jews having a nation in their ethnic homeland, you’re a Zionist. That’s what Zionism has always meant. Most antizionists are quite upfront about calling for the eradication of Israel.

If the Jews wanted a nation in their ethnic homeland, they'd put it in Germany/Poland/Czech Republic.

 

[Lazaran]

Watch the video I linked to. Rabbi Hirsh quotes Mamdani’s own words. If the mayor-elect has had a change of heart and now supports the existence of the Jewish state, now would be a good time to clarify his position.

I made that ^ point in another post.

Mamdani has now been challenged on multiple occasions to clarify his positions and to denounce the bigotry and hate of those he has associated himself with.

Mamdani continues to deny / deflect / distract.

Sound familiar???



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

If the Jews wanted a nation in their ethnic homeland, they'd put it in Germany/Poland/Czech Republic.

This is an absurd statement. Both the historical and archeological record show that Jews have lived continually in and around Jerusalem for thousands of years. Many modern Israelis have parents and grandparents who fled to Israel after they were ethnically cleansed from neighboring Muslim ethnostates.

 

[Lazaran]

If the Jews wanted a nation in their ethnic homeland, they'd put it in Germany/Poland/Czech Republic.

WTAF???



<Checks notes on the Jewish experience in Germany/Poland/ "Czech Republic" at the time the Jews decided to establish a Jewish state in Israel…>



GTFOH



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Bray123]

WTAF???



<Checks notes on the Jewish experience in Germany/Poland/ "Czech Republic" at the time the Jews decided to establish a Jewish state in Israel…>



GTFOH



We. Told. Them. So.

Israel was of course established after WW2 for the displaced Jews of central Europe. Instead of taking territory from Germany for the new state (too many ethnic Germans in America), the United Nations led by the US punished the Palestinians by seizing their ancestral lands. As was asked by them at the time, 'What did we do wrong?'

 

[Lazaran]

Israel was of course established after WW2 for the displaced Jews of central Europe. Instead of taking territory from Germany for the new state, the United Nations led by the US punished the Palestinians by seizing their ancestral lands. As was asked by them at the time at the time, 'What did we do wrong?'

Such intellectual dishonesty and disingenuousness does NOT merit a response- other than:

GTFOH



We. Told. Them. So.