Obama leaving more shit on Trump's table.

[Ishmael]

You're going to waste some meat.

The .280 AI is coming along nicely. Got the bolt trued up and the Timney installed. The Shilen '1 of a 100' is on order but not yet delivered. I got the 'straight barrel' (1.230) 28" in length. I'll shoot it, trim it and re-crown it until the harmonics are tuned out.

Which leaves me with a blizzard of stocks out there to choose from. And while I'm building a 1000 yd+ rifle I'm of the feeling that Ocham's razor still applies and all of those doodads are just that. Some of the folks out at the range have those doodads and I'll give them a try but as a human beings go I'm a pretty standard model and don't require extreme ergonomics.

Ishmael

 

[phrodeau]

Ah, I get it. You're trolling the thread.

But joke aside and no matter which side you guys are on (Trump, Obama) and which GBers is attacking and which GBers are reacting defensively:

This is a fascinating and real topic (things internationally are almost at a critical risk level) and it would be great if people paid it more attenrion.

Do you honestly believe that, had Hillary won, Obama would be doing anything different now?

Somehow I think you would be against anything Obama does, just as you have been against everything Obama has done so far.

 

[hashtag46]

Also in shit sandwiches is that after eight years of not closing the prison in Cuba, he has cut off sanctuary for those who try to escape the prison that is Cuba. Too many of those Hispanics want a better life, not a lifetime of governmental benefit..

I didn't know about that. I only heard about it from your & OldJourno's posts.

Also: Best illustration of the logic of those who are against illegal aliens in the States, and who call for better screening of reffugees in Europe (among the obvious safety concerns).

 

[hashtag46]

1.Do you honestly believe that, had Hillary won, Obama would be doing anything different now?

2.Somehow I think you would be against anything Obama does, just as you have been against everything Obama has done so far.

1.I don't know. And I can't say whether he made those decisions
- with really good intentions, fearing that Trump might go too pro-Russia and escalate the international tension towards war in that way
- or whether something more ominous is at stake.
or whatever motivations he might have

But those are very bad decisions that could escalate things internationally. As I keep reading online, things are already primed for world war three, so to spek.

2. You're giving me too much credit. I have such a poor understanding of history and politics, that I could easily be wrong. I'm just trying to provoke things to get people talking. I only ended up being "pro- Trump and anti- Obama" so to speak because the arguments brought re the international situation by posters like AJ, underguy and others like them made more sense to me than what the GB libs. keep saying.
By the same token, my sister who lives in a different environment in the States and hears different arguments, is "pro- Obama and very anti-Trump"

 

[Ishmael]

I didn't know about that. I only heard about it from your & OldJourno's posts.

Also: Best illustration of the logic of those who are against illegal aliens in the States, and who call for better screening of reffugees in Europe (among the obvious safety concerns).

^One trick pony. A record stuck in a groove. Moron.

Ishmael

 

[hashtag46]

^One trick pony. A record stuck in a groove. Moron.

Ishmael

Huh?
Care to ellaborate?

 

[Conager]

All these petulant lame-duck moves by Obama on the way out the door smacks of too-clever-by-half. the Press keep speculating about how this move or that move is designed to box Trump in and all sorts of nonsense like that. If I were Trump on day one by 12:10, I would issue a simple, executive order. It would read: "Any and all executive actions undertaken by the previous administration from election day to the present are here by null void with no further comment. Department heads are to ensure that each and every action taken has been rescinded, everything is restored to pre-election stance."

 

[thør]

doo-dads

Some folk need an excuse.

 

[sigh]

All these petulant lame-duck moves by Obama on the way out the door smacks of too-clever-by-half. the Press keep speculating about how this move or that move is designed to box Trump in and all sorts of nonsense like that. If I were Trump on day one by 12:10, I would issue a simple, executive order. It would read: "Any and all executive actions undertaken by the previous administration from election day to the present are here by null void with no further comment. Department heads are to ensure that each and every action taken has been rescinded, everything is restored to pre-election stance."

Oddly enough, I'd take a more conservative approach to that. Flipping a switch on 8 years of regulatory change is a quick recipe for brewing chaos. Few professions are more regulated than mine. Please, I beg you, take it a bit more slowly.

 

[hashtag46]

I didn't take his comment too literally

 

[sigh]

I didn't take his comment too literally

I'm a literal sort, sometimes. Actually, most of the time.

But his comment isn't unlike what some "conservatives" are demanding in Congress right now. As much as I don't like it, to immediately repeal the ACA would be a most un-conservative thing to do. EVERYBODY in the healthcare industry has been spending years making major changes, not just in the insurance side of healthcare, but at the bedside too, in response to the ACA. You can't just wave that away. It will hurt people.

 

[Ishmael]

doo-dads

Some folk need an excuse.

Back to Occam's Razor.

Ishmael

 

[Ishmael]

I'm a literal sort, sometimes. Actually, most of the time.

But his comment isn't unlike what some "conservatives" are demanding in Congress right now. As much as I don't like it, to immediately repeal the ACA would be a most un-conservative thing to do. EVERYBODY in the healthcare industry has been spending years making major changes, not just in the insurance side of healthcare, but at the bedside too, in response to the ACA. You can't just wave that away. It will hurt people.

Yes you are oh mother of my unborn child. OCD in that respect more often than not. Hopefully our child will be raised with the best of both of our attributes. Hmm, then again he/she just might be the anti-Christ.

Hmm, that could be interesting to watch too.

Ishmael

 

[Conager]

Oddly enough, I'd take a more conservative approach to that. Flipping a switch on 8 years of regulatory change is a quick recipe for brewing chaos. Few professions are more regulated than mine. Please, I beg you, take it a bit more slowly.

I didn't mean since his election I meant since Trump's election because all of his orders since then have been spiteful, small minded, destructive, and unnecessary.

We just had an election where the electorate said they were not interested in more of the same so he's going to hustle through some actions on his way out the door?

 

[Conager]

Do you honestly believe that, had Hillary won, Obama would be doing anything different now?

Somehow I think you would be against anything Obama does, just as you have been against everything Obama has done so far.

Hillary winning would have been a continuation of Obama's Legacy, so...no, I don't think he would have been kicking over tables and chairs on his way out the door like a petulant child.

 

[OldJourno]

Oddly enough, I'd take a more conservative approach to that. Flipping a switch on 8 years of regulatory change is a quick recipe for brewing chaos. Few professions are more regulated than mine. Please, I beg you, take it a bit more slowly.

I've read recently of a 1994 law that allows an incoming president, following a vote of approval by the Congress, to rescind up to 6 months of executive orders. I know that's not a perfect description but it's roughly correct.
That's important. A lot of the additions to the Federal Register cost businesses money in terms of compliance.
Not sure the damage done by changing the status of federal land can be undone.

 

[Ishmael]

Oddly enough, I'd take a more conservative approach to that. Flipping a switch on 8 years of regulatory change is a quick recipe for brewing chaos. Few professions are more regulated than mine. Please, I beg you, take it a bit more slowly.

On certain issues I agree.

(and the more you beg, the more time I'm going to take.)

Ishmael

 

[hashtag46]

1.I didn't mean since his election I meant since Trump's election because all of his orders since then have been spiteful, small minded, destructive, and unnecessary.

2.We just had an election where the electorate said they were not interested in more of the same so he's going to hustle through some actions on his way out the door?

Obama made a lot of controversial decisions since Trump won.

1.As to 'Why', people came up with different -more or less tongue in cheek- theories
- that he made all these decisions out of spite or to give Trump the finger,
that he's more interested in himself and the legacy he's leaving behind than in anything else.

I doubt that any of these apply, since I suspect that none of these decisions were and are made independently by any presidents.


2.Indeed. This other theory:
- that the Obama administration fear that Trump's foreign politics might upset the cart and reverse the path that the former US presidents have set for the rest of the world - makes a lot more sense.

Which in a strange way gives Trump more credibility in the eyes of skeptics such as myself.
Because Trump already broke some of his pre-election promisses by putting pretty much the same old same old globalists and Goldman Sachs people in charge.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

He should ignore the deal. He should treat Iran as an enemy.
And if Iranians ever start showing they are unhappy with the regime and protest, as they did when Obama first took office, I hope Trump stands up in support of those protests.
Obama remained silent. Shameful.

What would be the point of that?

We would be treating them in the same manner that they regard us.

Being soft and reasonable when it comes to tinhorn tyrants, well it led directly to WWII, did it not?

There are times for diplomacy and discussion but you do not try to reach an agreement with an axe murderer on surrendering his axe and his act. You just execute him (or her, in the case of Pookie).

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

So now, those who applauded the abrupt enactment of Obamacare are finally now worried about the chaos of moving too quickly?


Give me a fucking break.


Business is already gearing up for the "chaos" and now y'all are begging for it not to happen? Why? So you can run against a shitty economy in '18 and '20???

 

[Pookie]

Nevermind the fact that Obama waived prohibitions in the US Arms Export Control Act right after the syrian army liberated Aleppo.
Another hot bag of snakes

You forgot to use "Conager" exclusively for this thread, Que. You forget to dumb down the Hash alt.

 

[Disgustipated]

You forgot to use "Conager" exclusively for this thread, Que. You forget to dumb down the Hash alt.

I've said since Day One that he edits the shit out of #### for the dumbing down. Does cuckism lend itself to incest?

 

[Sean]

You forgot to use "Conager" exclusively for this thread, Que. You forget to dumb down the Hash alt.

I've said since Day One that he edits the shit out of #### for the dumbing down. Does cuckism lend itself to incest?

Definite stylistic fuck up.

 

[Adre]

You forgot to use "Conager" exclusively for this thread, Que. You forget to dumb down the Hash alt.

When he gets impatient his alt army doesn't receive the proper care and feeding.

 

[hashtag46]

You forgot to use "Conager" exclusively for this thread, Que. You forget to dumb down the Hash alt.

I've said since Day One that he edits the shit out of #### for the dumbing down. Does cuckism lend itself to incest?

Definite stylistic fuck up.

When he gets impatient his alt army doesn't receive the proper care and feeding.

Nevermind the "Que alt" jokes. I"d like to hear your views on what I said. Particularly from Pookie and Dsgustipated
"Obama waived prohibitions in the US Arms Export Control Act right after the syrian army liberated Aleppo.
Another hot bag of snakes."

What do you think that his reason was for instituting such a measure, and what consequences do you foresee (in Syria, that is)?

Are you able to come up with an opinion on that?