OMG, am I turning straight?!

[redneckgirl]

I agree with others, maybe you're just curious, I was straight for a long time, but I was bi curious, then when I tried a woman, I couldn't leave. I love both.

 

[DuckLover]

Wow...

you've got a cock-addicted bisexual femme who digs gay porn.

Now there's a mind-bending, gender-bending description... I'm still working on sorting it out! I'm glad you and your guy are fitting each other so well.

-DL

 

[amBIguous]

I went through the same thing, once. I was once a regular lesbian who loved other lesbians and occasionally fantasized about seducing straight women. I met a macho jock...and fell in love. Next thing I knew, I was blushing when somebody called my gay male friends "cocksuckers" because I too fell into that category. Add to that the shock that my macho jock was really a bisexual guy and then you've got a cock-addicted bisexual femme who digs gay porn.

PredatorSmile, you're my hero.

 

[amBIguous]

Please don't laugh. I'm very confused right now.

...

Does this mean I've turned straight?!!!!?!

I spent much of my 20s bouncing from bisexual to gay. Spent a great deal of time hung up on labels, listening to fellow GLBTers discussing the labels they used and what they insisted on using on others. It can be enough to really screw someone up. Then I met the woman who would become my wife. That is when all the questions surfaced about "Have you gone straight?"

The answer that I finally came up with was no. Really, no to them all. I generally use the label of bi as that is the closest that applies to me. However, I can say that at any given time I can be gay, bisexual, straight and even a little bit of transgendered. Mostly a state of mind with me, not necessarily who or what I'm fucking.

 

[apexpark]

Nahh, it just means that you're a complex and incredible human being and you can have sex tailor made to fit your needs.
Thats said, I love the cock!

 

[Auxar]

/cheer manhating lesbians in this thread....

You would think people that already are in a sexual minority wanting everyone else to respect their choices would respect the possible inclinations of others but that is obviously not the case here....

If you fantasise about being with a man and you've always been with women maybe it's time to at least try it. All the manhaters may disown you but if they were that prejudiced to start with maybe they weren't the kind of people you wanted to be around anyway? Aside form the bullshit politics and stereotypes about gay or straight or bi or whatever.... if you have some new sexual inclination and you're already gay I can't see why you wouldn't want to try something else. I mean you have already overcome whatever ridicule came with being gay so it's not like you couldn't try straight and deal with that easily in comparison.

 

[Etoile]

/cheer manhating lesbians in this thread....

You would think people that already are in a sexual minority wanting everyone else to respect their choices would respect the possible inclinations of others but that is obviously not the case here....

If you fantasise about being with a man and you've always been with women maybe it's time to at least try it. All the manhaters may disown you but if they were that prejudiced to start with maybe they weren't the kind of people you wanted to be around anyway? Aside form the bullshit politics and stereotypes about gay or straight or bi or whatever.... if you have some new sexual inclination and you're already gay I can't see why you wouldn't want to try something else. I mean you have already overcome whatever ridicule came with being gay so it's not like you couldn't try straight and deal with that easily in comparison.

Uh, what the fuck? Please point me to the "manhating lesbians" in this thread, because I just re-read the whole thing and I can't find a single post that qualifies as "manhating."

 

[sexy-girl]

i don't hate men the only way i would hate men is if Never actually did turn straight ... or if a man pm's me on lit

 

[Night_Jasmine]

Huh?

Okay, I'm a lesbian but I don't hate men. Afraid of them, yes, but I'm not a man hater. I will cheer for the happy hetero couples just as much as I will for the happy gay and lesbian couples. In my mind, as long as they are happy, that's great.

People talk about labels and stereotypes, "man hating dykes/lesbians" is the one I simply can't stand!!!

I agree with Etoile, I went through the whole thread and didn't see anything like that at all.

Anyway, there's an off chance she might be having some bi curiosity issues. It may be a one off thing. Find someone clean that you trust, try it. you never know until you try.

 

[Wolfman1982]

hmmm manhating, or something that smells in that direction.

No! Don't leave us! You are not a breeder, y'hear me? YOU HEAR ME?!!!!

smells just a little bit.

i had a nightmare like this once ...

hmmm double standards a bit ?....

Yeah - I did too - it went away finally afer a few sleepless nights - no, no, not a laughing matter at all

ha ha ha.

for me i just woke up screaming Never no don't marry him

Smelly cat.

Try dating butch.

try dating me.

Uh, what the fuck? Please point me to the "manhating lesbians" in this thread, because I just re-read the whole thing and I can't find a single post that qualifies as "manhating."

maybe it is only me, but I smell hatred....... hidden in humour.

 

[april-wine]

smells just a little bit.



hmmm double standards a bit ?....



ha ha ha.



Smelly cat.



try dating me.



maybe it is only me, but I smell hatred....... hidden in humour.

It's only you....

 

[Auxar]

Uh, what the fuck? Please point me to the "manhating lesbians" in this thread, because I just re-read the whole thing and I can't find a single post that qualifies as "manhating."

Obviously my straight male perspective and your lesbian perspective view these posts quite differently. I think wolfman pointed out quite a few examples of exactly the "manhating" I was referring to.

What if a gay man said the same thing about women? or what if a straight man made comments equally offensive about being gay? All I ever hear from gay people is how they wish people were more openminded blah blah blah. Practice what you preach????

I personally have no problem with gay or lesbian people. I mean I will make gay jokes for the rest of my life with my friends but even one of our friends we found out was gay still made the same jokes with us long after we found out he was gay. Hell if anything he was more vulgar than we were... I could care less what people do as long as they don't hurt me or someone else that doesn't want it.

 

[Etoile]

Obviously my straight male perspective and your lesbian perspective view these posts quite differently. I think wolfman pointed out quite a few examples of exactly the "manhating" I was referring to.

Huh. Well, wolfman referred to "hatred in humor" - but I think you're both reading too much into it. Seriously, even as a lesbian, I don't see anything in here that indicates hatred of men. Yes, the quotes listed are jokes, but they're more jokes about Never not being a lesbian anymore than they are jokes about how awful men are.

And to be perfectly honest, the phrase "manhating lesbian" is really derogatory for some of us. See, the words "dyke" and "queer" are being reclaimed, so some of us are not so bothered by those. But calling someone "manhating" is an external judgment of a woman's character, and it really puts the hatred in the wrong corner, if you know what I mean.

 

[Wolfman1982]

Etoile: You know, that I admire you so much. That if you were bi, then I would fucking love you with all my heart.

But I felt hatred through the comment those women said, and well I am a MAN, but I am NOT awful. I am sometimes just very defending when it comes to mens rights, every now and then. And so is SamuelX.

And sometimes humour can be more hurtful than the truth, since when hatred is said through humour, then you need to know humour well. Before you read between the lines, and I think I have proven it here.

the 12 drawings of Mohammed (to make a parralel) was humour, and maybe it was drawn in a rightwinged news paper. But it wasn´t hate from the start, it was freedom of speech. But it became hatred in the end. And it hit the Danes so hard, that the word Denmark, has gotten a bad taste to it. Thanks to lies, hatred, and misinformation many places. I have even felt it on the internet. I am just so tired of this sometimes.

 

[privyjo]

People do bring their own hurts and pains when they read posts. And project those feelings onto the words of others.

I am sorry, Wolfman, that you see me as a manhater. A view you have developed of me based on one sentence I have written describing the confusion I felt during a painful period in my life when I was unable to deal with my homosexuality. One way to deal with remembered pain is through humor.

 

[Wolfman1982]

privyjo: I don´t see any of the people I qouted as manhaters. I just felt the hate/pain through the comments.

 

[privyjo]

privyjo: I don´t see any of the people I qouted as manhaters. I just felt the hate/pain through the comments.

I am sorry you see hate where there is none.

 

[Wolfman1982]

privyjo: sometimes pain, and hate seems the same. And yes I am bi, but I haven´t had personal issues with it. I just once ignored the fact, that I was bi. And if I am not bi, then I am just oversexed.

 

[John Doe]

Change is different, but things aren't always different.

And it keeps happening.

 

[privyjo]

privyjo: sometimes pain, and hate seems the same. And yes I am bi, but I haven´t had personal issues with it. I just once ignored the fact, that I was bi. And if I am not bi, then I am just oversexed.

Exactly my point, Wolfman. You took pain for hate and then took my past pain, of which you know nothing about, and were sarcastic about it in your post. Everybody has a coming out story and for me, until I know the story I cannot comment on another person's post in the way you did. And I don't believe I asked what your sexual orientation is but thank you for sharing. I am a Lesbian if you wish to know. And I am happy you did not have a difficult time with coming to terms with your sexual identity. Some people do, some people don't.

 

[Wolfman1982]

privyjo: I am bi, but in the closet, because of fear. But other than that, I am doing fine

And yes I was sarcastic (it is very rare I am that). But anyway if you read this thread

then you know, I admire lesbians in every way possible, but I don´t like attacks on any sides of the fence. meaning "Never" who started this thread, reminds me of Chun-gong, since she was wondering also, why she loved sucking a real cock. And well I know I went with tooth and claw into a confrontation with one here (I am not thinking of tribalwomon here) but somebody else. And that was because , sometimes it is provocative, not to accept that some men, can just as soft as a woman. And well other times they can be hard and macho . And all that bullshit (sorry) so it leaves the man very confused. if they don´t accept the fact, that todays man. Needs to be god damn flexible.

 

[privyjo]

privyjo: I am bi, but in the closet, because of fear. But other than that, I am doing fine

And yes I was sarcastic (it is very rare I am that). But anyway if you read this thread

then you know, I admire lesbians in every way possible, but I don´t like attacks on any sides of the fence. meaning "Never" who started this thread, reminds me of Chun-gong, since she was wondering also, why she loved sucking a real cock. And well I know I went with tooth and claw into a confrontation with one here (I am not thinking of tribalwomon here) but somebody else. And that was because , sometimes it is provocative, not to accept that some men, can just as soft as a woman. And well other times they can be hard and macho . And all that bullshit (sorry) so it leaves the man very confused. if they don´t accept the fact, that todays man. Needs to be god damn flexible.

Given what you say here, Wolfman, you should have addressed anything you had to say on how you feel about Never's original post directly to Never and left everyone else alone. I saw the thread title and chuckled myself and then read her post. If Never is serious in what she says it is never easy to be in a flux over one's sexual identity and since I have been there in the past, I posted my response. I have a hard time telling when someone is serious or not on Lit but since I am always serious - well - ...

As for reading the other thread - so what? The point I have been trying to make is that you are projecting your own emotions and feelings onto other people - and I called you on your comment on my post - that's it. I am a Lesbian and it felt all wrong for me to be with men. I don't regret my past experiences with men - just reaffirmed what I knew in my heart when I was a kid - I love being with women. It feels RIGHT when I am with another woman. I feel I am at home when I am with another woman.

Let me know when you find the courage to come out of the closet - when I told my Mom I was a lesbian years ago - her response - "I love you but I believe you will go to hell." We still remained close up til the time of her death this past December even after such a response. As my niece tells me - "She said she loved you while holding onto her own value system." When you can tell someone you are bi in your Real Life, Wolfman, then maybe I will give more credit to what you share.

 

[College_geek]

I don't think someone can "turn straight", but perhaps it's the novelty of the idea that is turning you on or maybe you're a little bisexual. I think it's a bit like straight men who would never think of being with another guy but occassionally like to watch gay porn to get off.

 

[Wolfman1982]

privyjo: I don´t project emotions into what I read. I read, and feel emotions from the posts, that I read. And why I am in the closet, is because I am afraid of being a victim of homophobia , ok ?

again privyjo second of all, I do respect those women. Who is ONLY into women.

privyjo: screw it, I felt hate through the posts, I qouted, I don´t care. But hate to me is something I really do NOT like, being misandric hate, or not. That is not the matter, being racist hate, or is not the matter either. I just don´t like hate in any way.

And when I feel, then I feel. Maybe some people should begin to feel more, and think "what the fuck, let the woman try to fuck a man", instead of going all into misandric conditions.

And well I think alot of posts, are full of double standards. And well, that is human to have double standards.

So fuck it, and forget it.

 

[privyjo]

privyjo: I don´t project emotions into what I read. I read, and feel emotions from the posts, that I read. And why I am in the closet, is because I am afraid of being a victim of homophobia , ok ?

again privyjo second of all, I do respect those women. Who is ONLY into women.

privyjo: screw it, I felt hate through the posts, I qouted, I don´t care. But hate to me is something I really do NOT like, being misandric hate, or not. That is not the matter, being racist hate, or is not the matter either. I just don´t like hate in any way.

And when I feel, then I feel. Maybe some people should begin to feel more, and think "what the fuck, let the woman try to fuck a man", instead of going all into misandric conditions.

And well I think alot of posts, are full of double standards. And well, that is human to have double standards.

So fuck it, and forget it.

Oh my - who's the hater?