OOC: Star Wars - Episode VIII: The New Threat

[Orlanth]

That actually broaden the stuff I can research ...

It may take a while since I have to find my resource materials in my house ... I moved apts a few months back still have not unpacked & sorted everything yet ...

Is that a hint that you'll return?

 

[Arc da Rat]

Hmm ~ can't promise anything since I really have to figure where in the galaxy Kerra & Jono are ... LOL

 

[Donsehan]

Originally posted by Orlanth
That is true, but we don't really need the books to do this ORP. As it's been pointed out before,we can customize anything.

We could even have a pink, blue, green and yellow 4 bladed lightsaber if we all liked it.

It might not fit into the SW's books, but so what? We use most of our ideas and that of the movies. We don't like doing what's already done in the books.

Orlanth, realistcally you can have a blade of almost any color except black, because it requires a crystal, but since you're not following the books I don't know the engineering of the lightsabers. Also to be honest you can't really customize lightsabers with any color because they're not allowed as it was pointed out to me. Secondly it wouldn't be feasible to build a four sided weapon like that because it would not be feasible to use.

You missed one of my other points completely which I've noticed that you even chose to avoid. Which is do you want to create the hundreds of species that are really there???

I ask again, Can I use a Gotal?? Yes or No?

If not, Can I use a Chadra Fan?? Yes or No??

and they both are in the movies, and frankly if we don't use the descriptions in the books there are no descriptions on either of these species. I dont' want to build a plethora of species because there's lots of work.

Also something else no one has answered yet which is, What species exist (that are in the movies)???

I know there are Twi'leks, Mon Cals, Toydarian, Human, what others?? I know there are CHiss, cuz Thrawn, unless if you wanna make Thrawn the only Chiss.

 

[Quiet_Cool]

Well, basically, the idea behind ignoring the books wasn't to leave out the extra information, but mostly to keep it simple. If you haven't seen the five (soon to be six) movies, then you probably wouldn't be interested in playing, but with everything that goes on in the books, it's a lot of reading to keep up with things. It isn't that we really want to lack the info, just that we want to lack the... well, effort--heh, heh-- of pursuing it. We're lazy.
I think a good way of doing things is this: If we can go to the Star Wars site, watered down or not, and get a quick explanation, and see a pic so we know what we're dealing with, and see at the top of the explanation that it was from a movie (it has three little tabs that explain where they're from at the top of it's bio/explanation/whatever you wat to call it). If it says "The Movies" then I'd say it's cool.
I found Gotal, BTW, and it's from them, and has a pic, so I'd say that's cool. Oddly, I've heard of the Chadra Fan, but couldn't find it in the database.
It's just a thought.

Q_C

 

[Donsehan]

Originally posted by Quiet_Cool
Well, basically, the idea behind ignoring the books wasn't to leave out the extra information, but mostly to keep it simple. If you haven't seen the five (soon to be six) movies, then you probably wouldn't be interested in playing, but with everything that goes on in the books, it's a lot of reading to keep up with things. It isn't that we really want to lack the info, just that we want to lack the... well, effort--heh, heh-- of pursuing it. We're lazy.
I think a good way of doing things is this: If we can go to the Star Wars site, watered down or not, and get a quick explanation, and see a pic so we know what we're dealing with, and see at the top of the explanation that it was from a movie (it has three little tabs that explain where they're from at the top of it's bio/explanation/whatever you wat to call it). If it says "The Movies" then I'd say it's cool.
I found Gotal, BTW, and it's from them, and has a pic, so I'd say that's cool. Oddly, I've heard of the Chadra Fan, but couldn't find it in the database.
It's just a thought.

Q_C

So why is it that you guys all get annoyed when I simply hand you the information and tell you what book it's from because I don't want to look for them in the Movie??

The Chadra fan are represented, in "A New Hope" it's the little guy who squeaks for a drink from the Barkeep. There's also Senator Elegos Akla.

DON'T READ THIS SECTION IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE CONTAMINATED BY THE BOOKS

(Chadra Fan: Have the odd ability to store memories and can transfer them among their species. Consequently, to them killing another being is the ultimate crime. Chadra Fan also found out that they could transfer these memories (forgot what they are called) to Jedi.)

THIS DESCRIPTION IS FROM BOOKS THERE IS NO DESCRIPTION FROM MOVIES

This is the link to the only Chadra Fan talked about on the site.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/kabe/index.html

 

[Donsehan]

Originally posted by Quiet_Cool
Well, basically, the idea behind ignoring the books wasn't to leave out the extra information, but mostly to keep it simple. If you haven't seen the five (soon to be six) movies, then you probably wouldn't be interested in playing, but with everything that goes on in the books, it's a lot of reading to keep up with things. It isn't that we really want to lack the info, just that we want to lack the... well, effort--heh, heh-- of pursuing it. We're lazy.
I think a good way of doing things is this: If we can go to the Star Wars site, watered down or not, and get a quick explanation, and see a pic so we know what we're dealing with, and see at the top of the explanation that it was from a movie (it has three little tabs that explain where they're from at the top of it's bio/explanation/whatever you wat to call it). If it says "The Movies" then I'd say it's cool.
I found Gotal, BTW, and it's from them, and has a pic, so I'd say that's cool. Oddly, I've heard of the Chadra Fan, but couldn't find it in the database.
It's just a thought.

Q_C

Also another question, I want to know if I can't use the description in the books for Gotals what can I use??

 

[Orlanth]

You missed my point with that Lightsaber. I was using that as example. - I doubt all us ORPers would allow it, mainly for the reasons you stated.

We only have Blue, Green, Pink and Red Lightsabers because before the books, GL only meant for those colours (excluding PinK)
Pink is included because it is Ep II and will be in Ep III.

I think you have taken my words wrong, which is my fault; as I wasn't clear. What I meant:

No information from the books is needed, unless it is to explain in higher detail of a race.

This SW ORP is for fun and not to be taken seriously, all ideas and happenings here don't really tire into the books.

Hope that's a little more clear.

As for those 2 races, I see no reason as to why they can not be used. And posting info on the race from the books is ok, if they were in the movies.

 

[Sweetp4u]

You're missing the point I think. We haven't read the books, and I don't think anyone is going to just to write this story. That doesn't mean you can't use it. What it means is you need to post a Character BIO. a description of the race, facial features etc. List skills if any. A little background on your character so that we can see what you're doing and have it in mind when you post.

It's that simple. Don't have to post a bunch of facts from the books about the story, unless its a character you're going to write about. If it's a character you want to write then feel free to write as much as you want to about them so we get a clear picture. (as I said in the previous post I was lost in all that information because I had no idea if it was your character you are introducing us to, or if it was just general info.)

Hope this helped?

 

[Donsehan]

Originally posted by Orlanth
You missed my point with that Lightsaber. I was using that as example. - I doubt all us ORPers would allow it, mainly for the reasons you stated.

We only have Blue, Green, Pink and Red Lightsabers because before the books, GL only meant for those colours (excluding PinK)
Pink is included because it is Ep II and will be in Ep III.

I think you have taken my words wrong, which is my fault; as I wasn't clear. What I meant:

No information from the books is needed, unless it is to explain in higher detail of a race.

This SW ORP is for fun and not to be taken seriously, all ideas and happenings here don't really tire into the books.

Hope that's a little more clear.

As for those 2 races, I see no reason as to why they can not be used. And posting info on the race from the books is ok, if they were in the movies.

that actually clears up a lot of things Orlanth. As I said though, I think the colors shouldn't be restricted, because well, you can design crystals to whatever shape and color you wanted in the day and age of SW and it wouldn't be very expensive.

So what about Engineering?? Where do we go for that? I wanted to have a custom fighter, that my character built over the years as a hobby, but I don't know how engineering in your universe is. I don't know if you use what's in the books/manuals or what you use for that matter.

 

[Orlanth]

that actually clears up a lot of things Orlanth. As I said though, I think the colors shouldn't be restricted, because well, you can design crystals to whatever shape and color you wanted in the day and age of SW and it wouldn't be very expensive.

So what about Engineering?? Where do we go for that? I wanted to have a custom fighter, that my character built over the years as a hobby, but I don't know how engineering in your universe is. I don't know if you use what's in the books/manuals or what you use for that matter.

Enginering? Like ships?

So far we have used only the basics from the movies, like Laser's tractor-beams, hyperspace, ships. Thugh we do have some custom built ships. Is that what you meant?

Edit:

I've also been reconsidering the Lightsabers after playing Jedi Acadamy, I kinda like dual-bladed green lightsaber. I think all us ORPers should look at our rules on lightsabers.

 

[Donsehan]

Originally posted by Orlanth
Enginering? Like ships?

So far we have used only the basics from the movies, like Laser's tractor-beams, hyperspace, ships. Thugh we do have some custom built ships. Is that what you meant?

Edit:

I've also been reconsidering the Lightsabers after playing Jedi Acadamy, I kinda like dual-bladed green lightsaber. I think all us ORPers should look at our rules on lightsabers.

like for example I know that the rotation rings on say the B-Wings exist. I want to know specifically on inertial compensators, lasers, ion cannon designs, repulsors stuff like that, shields, interface equipment etc.

 

[Orlanth]

like for example I know that the rotation rings on say the B-Wings exist. I want to know specifically on inertial compensators, lasers, ion cannon designs, repulsors stuff like that, shields, interface equipment etc.

We haven't needed to go into so much detial before. So I really can't say.

 

[Donsehan]

Originally posted by Orlanth
We haven't needed to go into so much detial before. So I really can't say.

eh, I want to build this thing from ground up literally and so I want to basically have idea of what there is. what should I do?

 

[Orlanth]

eh, I want to build this thing from ground up literally and so I want to basically have idea of what there is. what should I do?

I see no problems with building it. We haven't said we have this, this and that and not those, when it comes to ships, we basically do what we think fits into SW.

Maybe you could tell us what you'd like, then we decide what to do?

We've never had this issue before so we've not solved it. But it is something that I think is interesting to work out, and I think we have to as well.

 

[Donsehan]

Originally posted by Orlanth
I see no problems with building it. We haven't said we have this, this and that and not those, when it comes to ships, we basically do what we think fits into SW.

Maybe you could tell us what you'd like, then we decide what to do?

We've never had this issue before so we've not solved it. But it is something that I think is interesting to work out, and I think we have to as well.

okay, i'll come up with the stuff, because this ship will actually be built from just metal and whatever else he can find, basically my character would have built everything in it. The electrical systems and such. It will take a while, as I don't really know what the normal speed of a fighter is, it would help if I had those numbers to work with. I actually will try to give as much detailed info. as possible so what I come up with can be used for all ships.

Because he grew up on a ship he hasn't really seen much in the way of other ships, other than the holocron he's been learning from, so he's actually going to base it on older designs trying to find out what's more efficient and improve on it and such.

Ion Cannons are in the movies, (in the books they basically are supposed to short the ships systems), in the movies it locked up everything on the bridges of the two Star Destroyers that were supposed to intercept the escapees out of Hoth.

 

[Orlanth]

okay, i'll come up with the stuff, because this ship will actually be built from just metal and whatever else he can find, basically my character would have built everything in it. The electrical systems and such. It will take a while, as I don't really know what the normal speed of a fighter is, it would help if I had those numbers to work with. I actually will try to give as much detailed info. as possible so what I come up with can be used for all ships.

Because he grew up on a ship he hasn't really seen much in the way of other ships, other than the holocron he's been learning from, so he's actually going to base it on older designs trying to find out what's more efficient and improve on it and such.

Ion Cannons are in the movies, (in the books they basically are supposed to short the ships systems), in the movies it locked up everything on the bridges of the two Star Destroyers that were supposed to intercept the escapees out of Hoth.

I remember that scene in Ep V, weren't those like the large kind of Ion Cannon? Or can any Ion Cannon do that to a Star Destroyer?

 

[Donsehan]

Originally posted by Orlanth
I remember that scene in Ep V, weren't those like the large kind of Ion Cannon? Or can any Ion Cannon do that to a Star Destroyer?

hahaha, an Ion Cannon from a Y-Wing is not going to knock out a normal class Star Destroyer. A Victory or Imperial Mark II could do that. A huge cannon could also. Mon Cal cruisers could. You have to realize that it's a huge cannon that they used, but on a ship like a Victory or Impstar Duece, or Mon Cal Cruiser, the Ion batteries will be much smaller, and will be less effective, but there are more. As Ion Cannons in the books eat up shields fast, so if you don't mind, I'll be going with that, because that actually makes sense.

also shields were down, otherwise that couldn't have happened.

I'll be trying to come up first with power generators and engines for ships in general. Then weapons, armor, and so on. So different ships will be outfitted with different weapons. For example you wouldn't put a turbolaser on a Lambda Class Shuttle

 

[Orlanth]

hahaha, an Ion Cannon from a Y-Wing is not going to knock out a normal class Star Destroyer. A Victory or Imperial Mark II could do that. A huge cannon could also. Mon Cal cruisers could. You have to realize that it's a huge cannon that they used, but on a ship like a Victory or Impstar Duece, or Mon Cal Cruiser, the Ion batteries will be much smaller, and will be less effective, but there are more. As Ion Cannons in the books eat up shields fast, so if you don't mind, I'll be going with that, because that actually makes sense.

also shields were down, otherwise that couldn't have happened.

I'll be trying to come up first with power generators and engines for ships in general. Then weapons, armor, and so on. So different ships will be outfitted with different weapons. For example you wouldn't put a turbolaser on a Lambda Class Shuttle

Sounds like a lot of work?

 

[Donsehan]

Originally posted by Orlanth
Sounds like a lot of work?

Not really, it's a lot easier than building a universe with different cultures and it's own histories legends and prophecies. (note when I say universe I mainly mean planet)

Oh if you all of you don't mind I'll be bringing in the different classes of Star Destroyers like the Victory, Imp Duece (Mark II), and so on. I'll also be introducing the different Classes of Mon Cal cruisers. (In the books, Mon Cal cruisers were developed one by one with their own touches so every Mon Cal cruiser is different from each other with their own personal touches). Also tell me what other normal classes of ships you guys have. For Yachts I'll be more vague because Yachts are customizeable and there are lots of them. I'll be basing the basic Yacht on a small redesigned Freighter.

Note:it's not going to be up by tomm. or even 2 days from now. It'll be up I assume by the end of the week at the earliest.

Sweet I hit 500+ just not too long ago

 

[Orlanth]

We haven't got many ships, as we haven't done much with them. Though that's about to change in Ep VIII.

Victory class Star Destroyer, isn't that the ones seen in Ep 2?

I've seen the newer Victory class in a game, it looked like a normal Star Destroyer, but had these big things on the side.

I have in D'Rack's Jedi Fleet, one Super Star Destroyer, 2 or 4 normal Star Destroyers, and a lot of Tie Fighters (normal, advanced, bombers and intercepters), Lambda Shuttles, and Landing Craft (as seen in the DVD of Ep IV on Tatoonie).

D'Rack uses a Corellian YT-2200, as seen in Star Wars X-Wing Allience. Arc did use a Corellian YT-2400 light freighter.

 

[Donsehan]

Originally posted by Orlanth
We haven't got man ships, as we haven't down much with them. Though that's about to change in Ep VIII.

Victory class Star Destroyer, isn't that the ones seen in Ep 2?

I've seen the newer Victory class in a game, it looked like a normal Star Destroyer, but had these big things on the side.

I have in D'Rack's Jedi Fleet, one Super Star Destroyer, 2 or 4 normal Star Destroyers, and a lot of Tie Fighters (normal, advanced, bombers and intercepters), Lambda Shuttles, and Landing Craft (as seen in the DVD of Ep IV on Tatoonie).

D'Rack uses a Corellian YT-2200, as seen in Star Wars X-Wing Allience. Arc did use a Corellian YT-2400 light freighter.

Okay, well a Corellian YT-2400 is like the Millenium Falcon if I remember, YT 1300 is Dash Rendars ship. Okay, I don't remember what the victory class is but I'm going to actually make the victory class different from the normal class. I'll also be making outfits for fighters and snub fighters little things to tweak performance guard against stuff. So fleets can actually order from Seinar or Incom modified stuff instead of base models.

YT 2200 I'm unfamiliar with, uh Orlanth I've been looking around, I can't seem to find that game.

 

[Orlanth]

Okay, well a Corellian YT-2400 is like the Millenium Falcon if I remember, YT 1300 is Dash Rendars ship. Okay, I don't remember what the victory class is but I'm going to actually make the victory class different from the normal class. I'll also be making outfits for fighters and snub fighters little things to tweak performance guard against stuff. So fleets can actually order from Seinar or Incom modified stuff instead of base models.

YT 2200 I'm unfamiliar with.

Dash Rendar's ship is the YT- 2400, and the Millenium Falcon is a modified YT-1600, according to the starwars.com databank.

the YT-2000 is bigger and faster then the YT-1600s, has 2 gun turrents like the Millenium Falcon, but the cockpit for the YT-2000 is inbetween the cargo holds.

Edit:

Fixed model numbers.

 

[Orlanth]

If anyone doesn't know what a YT-2400 is ...

Its a Corillian Ship, no not the Falcon. That was an older model .. but anyone read the Dark Empire books (I Think) Its Dash Rengar's ship the OutRider ...

http://www.theforce.net/multimedia/archive/Images/Expanded_Universe/Starships/Outrider/outrisch.jpg

Attaching Files is still not working ... grr ...

 

[Orlanth]

A Corellian YT-2000 Transport.

Sorry, when I said YT-2200, I ment YT-2000.

 

[Donsehan]

Originally posted by Orlanth
Dash Rendar's ship is the YT- 2400, and the Millenium Falcon is a modified YT-1600, according to the starwars.com databank.

the YT-2200 (if I got the model number right) is bigger and faster then the YT-1600s, has 2 gun turrents like the Millenium Falcon, but the cockpit for the YT-2200 is inbetween the cargo holds.

Okay thanx, I actually don't remember the numbers. Oh i think I know what you're talking about now. I won't provide pics and stuff, but there will be things like warning systems,

oh yeah something just occured to me, if you want I'm pretty sure there's species info on Darth Maul. He shouldn't be the last, he's just the only one to appear. I'm sure you could have fun with that.