Psych Thread: You teach me, I teach you

[lovecraft68]

I actually really liked Peanuts as a kid, but I couldn’t have told you why. It never made me laugh. I just liked how it felt to read.

But fuck Lucy. I never understood what Marcy saw in her.

I always thought Marcy was into Peppermint Patty.

Anyway, back to my Lucy and Linus incest story....or was it Charlie and Sally? Both?

Kidding. All I know is Snoopy rocks

 

[Djmac1031]

Talking about yourself can be an early sign of psychosis.

Em

Djmac1031 never talks about himself.

And he most certainly never talks about himself in third person.

Because Djmac1031 thinks that's just batshit wonkers.

 

[Bamagan]

Djmac1031 never talks about himself.

And he most certainly never talks about himself in third person.

Because Djmac1031 thinks that's just batshit wonkers.

That would have been even funnier if you'd stuck it in a quote box.

 

[Djmac1031]

Welcome to the forum, @LittleLilyCanWrite

You don't have to be crazy to post here.

But it helps.

 

[LittleLilyCanWrite]

I always thought Marcy was into Peppermint Patty.

Anyway, back to my Lucy and Linus incest story....or was it Charlie and Sally? Both?

Kidding. All I know is Snoopy rocks

Holy moly, you're right. Patty is her Sir. I feel silly.

But I maintain that if Marcy had seen something in Lucy, I wouldn't have understood it.

I know incest is a big thing around here, so I might as well address it. I've had a couple folks bring their incestuous characters to me since I put out my shingle.

Incest is a challenging topic to see through the eyes of an erotica author, as I'm so used to the much uglier flipside. But even when I stretch my mind as far open as it can go, I still firmly believe that a Lucy and Linus pairing (aged up, obviously) would be vapid at best, and horrific at worst. Lucy's an irremediable narcissist, and Linus is an overly accommodating sweetheart. There is no way that power dynamic is not hideously lopsided, or that a prolonged tryst does not end in emotional abuse. "Grim prognosis" does not begin to describe my pessimism, here. (To say nothing of the real world ramifications of incest, which I get probably don't apply in the case of erotica.)

Tbc, I have treated victims of incest. So it's a little surreal for me to say this next bit, but I am happy to read whatever story you want me to read, incest or otherwise, as long as you're really not messing with me. I'm sort of putting myself out there, you know? I want to delve into whatever you want to delve into. You might get kind of a muted response from me if the story is just all the way unrealistic, but I certainly won't shame you for your kink, and I'll try my darnedest to meet you where you're at.

 

[Djmac1031]

Tbc, I have treated victims of incest. So it's a little surreal for me to say this next bit, but I am happy to read whatever story you want me to read, incest or otherwise, as long as you're really not messing with me. I'm sort of putting myself out there, you know? I want to delve into whatever you want to delve into. You might get kind of a muted response from me if the story is just all the way unrealistic, but I certainly won't shame you for your kink, and I'll try my darnedest to meet you where you're at.

I've only written one serious attempt at an incest story, Caring For Carrie.

It eventually become three chapters to complete the tale.

The characters sort of psycho-analyse themselves at one point, in part 2, discussing what's drawn them together.

If you're at all interested here's part 1. But don't feel obligated.

https://literotica.com/s/caring-for-carrie

 

[AchtungNight]

Holy moly, you're right. Patty is her Sir. I feel silly.

But I maintain that if Marcy had seen something in Lucy, I wouldn't have understood it.

I know incest is a big thing around here, so I might as well address it. I've had a couple folks bring their incestuous characters to me since I put out my shingle.

Incest is a challenging topic to see through the eyes of an erotica author, as I'm so used to the much uglier flipside. But even when I stretch my mind as far open as it can go, I still firmly believe that a Lucy and Linus pairing (aged up, obviously) would be vapid at best, and horrific at worst. Lucy's an irremediable narcissist, and Linus is an overly accommodating sweetheart. There is no way that power dynamic is not hideously lopsided, or that a prolonged tryst does not end in emotional abuse. "Grim prognosis" does not begin to describe my pessimism, here. (To say nothing of the real world ramifications of incest, which I get probably don't apply in the case of erotica.)

Tbc, I have treated victims of incest. So it's a little surreal for me to say this next bit, but I am happy to read whatever story you want me to read, incest or otherwise, as long as you're really not messing with me. I'm sort of putting myself out there, you know? I want to delve into whatever you want to delve into. You might get kind of a muted response from me if the story is just all the way unrealistic, but I certainly won't shame you for your kink, and I'll try my darnedest to meet you where you're at.

I appreciate that. It’s true that a lot of actual incest is non-consensual and not pleasurable for the parties involved. I know it can happen consensually and be enjoyable, but it’s unrealistic to expect such a relationship to be strong and lasting. There’s just too much social stigma surrounding it. And for good reason. That said, I do have incestuous cousins and siblings in a few of my fictional works. Everything is consensual and enjoyable between them, of course. But my stories are not reality. And I have yet to write a story about incest-positive characters starting a relationship. Though ideas are on my list. I’ll probably never get beyond lesbian incest between sisters and cousins, and references to male-female relationships between cousins offscreen. Sun Ren in Beijing Streakers has an orgy in the same room with her two brothers, but they touch other women instead of her. At least in the onscreen action. The characters are willing if I want to do brother-sister stuff, but I didn’t actually depict that in the story. [shrug] My only other incestuous characters developed so far are limited to their sisters. Lisa has two brothers but they’re too far from her in age. Shauna and Tara are their only siblings. Maybe it’s easier for me to do a lesbian relationship as incest. Analyze that!

 

[M_K_Babalon]

I actually really liked Peanuts as a kid, but I couldn’t have told you why. It never made me laugh. I just liked how it felt to read.

But fuck Lucy. I never understood what Marcy saw in her.

Marcie and Lucy rarely interacted.

 

[M_K_Babalon]

Holy moly, you're right. Patty is her Sir. I feel silly.

But I maintain that if Marcy had seen something in Lucy, I wouldn't have understood it.

I know incest is a big thing around here, so I might as well address it. I've had a couple folks bring their incestuous characters to me since I put out my shingle.

Incest is a challenging topic to see through the eyes of an erotica author, as I'm so used to the much uglier flipside. But even when I stretch my mind as far open as it can go, I still firmly believe that a Lucy and Linus pairing (aged up, obviously) would be vapid at best, and horrific at worst. Lucy's an irremediable narcissist, and Linus is an overly accommodating sweetheart. There is no way that power dynamic is not hideously lopsided, or that a prolonged tryst does not end in emotional abuse. "Grim prognosis" does not begin to describe my pessimism, here. (To say nothing of the real world ramifications of incest, which I get probably don't apply in the case of erotica.)

Tbc, I have treated victims of incest. So it's a little surreal for me to say this next bit, but I am happy to read whatever story you want me to read, incest or otherwise, as long as you're really not messing with me. I'm sort of putting myself out there, you know? I want to delve into whatever you want to delve into. You might get kind of a muted response from me if the story is just all the way unrealistic, but I certainly won't shame you for your kink, and I'll try my darnedest to meet you where you're at.

I write fanfics and most of them are Peanuts fics. I had toyed with the idea of a Lucy/Linus but couldn't figure out how to make it work. Mostly because Lucy being Lucy. However I don't think Lucy is irredeemable, and I've written her enough to make her work and change.

 

[AchtungNight]

I’ve only mentioned Peanuts in a fanfic once. That was due to an oft quoted fantasy of the actress character I was depicting. She was a redhead serial dater, constantly looking for her Charlie Brown. The other FMC who ended up breaking her bisexual and polyamorous cherries was constantly overwhelmed by her emotions and thinking “Good grief, this woman is crazy!” It wasn’t a lasting relationship.

 

[MrPixel]

...I’m a good psych nerd...

Hi, Lily. Are you familiar with Sex-Positive Social Work by S.J. Dodd? Published by Columbia University Press. Very technical, but it addresses all sorts of situations and perversions you might run across in your reading on LitE.

FWIW, a FMC (female main character) in my major series, Off Campus, is a psychologist, and figures prominently in later plot development. She is introduced in Off Campus 04 Pt. 08. I loosely base her on a composite of counselors in my therapy past.

 

[StillStunned]

Facetiousness is hard to discern online. Are you insinuating that this POV character is actually a meaningful facet of your psyche, even if it might be a dark or "disturbing as fuck" part of you? If not, that's all good. I believe you. But I will need clarification, then, as to which of my services you're soliciting?

I was following this quote:

Maybe create a thread where you will be analyzing characters from some Lit stories. You could take some random story or you could ask someone from AH to suggest one of their stories. Show your expertise to people by performing analysis of characters and that might lead to some future mutually beneficial arrangement. Or it won't. It all depends on how good you are, and how much you manage to convince people about your abilities.

And what I meant has already been summed up pretty accurately:

Does it accurately describe the psychology and behaviour of one of those oddballs who believes another, who has never spoken or interacted with them is secretly in love with them, and so becomes their stalker?

All in good fun, of course. I just wrote the POV character as I imagined them, becoming more and more obsessed all the time, and imagining what that would do to a person's psyche.

 

[lovecraft68]

Holy moly, you're right. Patty is her Sir. I feel silly.

But I maintain that if Marcy had seen something in Lucy, I wouldn't have understood it.

I know incest is a big thing around here, so I might as well address it. I've had a couple folks bring their incestuous characters to me since I put out my shingle.

Incest is a challenging topic to see through the eyes of an erotica author, as I'm so used to the much uglier flipside. But even when I stretch my mind as far open as it can go, I still firmly believe that a Lucy and Linus pairing (aged up, obviously) would be vapid at best, and horrific at worst. Lucy's an irremediable narcissist, and Linus is an overly accommodating sweetheart. There is no way that power dynamic is not hideously lopsided, or that a prolonged tryst does not end in emotional abuse. "Grim prognosis" does not begin to describe my pessimism, here. (To say nothing of the real world ramifications of incest, which I get probably don't apply in the case of erotica.)

Tbc, I have treated victims of incest. So it's a little surreal for me to say this next bit, but I am happy to read whatever story you want me to read, incest or otherwise, as long as you're really not messing with me. I'm sort of putting myself out there, you know? I want to delve into whatever you want to delve into. You might get kind of a muted response from me if the story is just all the way unrealistic, but I certainly won't shame you for your kink, and I'll try my darnedest to meet you where you're at.

I'm joking about the Peanuts characters. I don't do any type of fan fic and would never age up children.

My wife has also treated victims of incest among other forms of abuse. Yet, she still enjoys it as a fantasy only kink and we've role played as siblings.

No offense intended, but I'm not looking to have my characters -and by extension myself-examined. I know who and what they are because I created them. The fluffy ones are pure fantasy, the more serious ones represent some part of me I'm sure. My interest in the kink was born of a pseudo incestuous relationship with a foster sister, easy enough to see the birth of the fetish

But just for fun-no analysis needed- you can look at this if you'd like. Two pages, the first chapter in a long running train wreck of a dark sibling romance. Grammar is bad, literally the first thing I wrote, but its on hell of a tone setter.

https://literotica.com/s/siblings-with-benefits-ch-01

 

[AchtungNight]

I’m the same as the above poster, at my core. I had a pseudo incestuous relationship in my formative years also, one my partner ended despite my interest in continuing it. She was the first person with whom I enjoyed physical and emotional intimacy. Today we’re fortunately still comfortable communicating, but I think she’s repressed the memories of what we once had. I love her and respect the life she has built for herself since then (supportive husband, 3 great kids), so I do not seek to revive our past.

The rest of my stories are borne out of my own real life failures to retain lasting companionship with a woman. I’ve had relationships, yes, but they have never lasted. I’m not a sleaze, even though I sometimes come across that way. I feel like I have no option for satisfaction.

Sites like this, where you can create a fantasy to excite yourself or find many fantasies ready made for you… it’s more satisfying than real life.

I won’t bore you by describing the many relationships I’ve had and why they’ve failed. Suffice to say, it is continual and not welcome.

I’ll get back to building my fantasy world soon.

 

[jsmiam]

I suspect you’ll find it far more enjoyable to play doctor on us forum members than our stories.

Our current mega-troll is on hiatus. Is it weird that I almost miss him as a form of entertainment? Just wait. You’ll meet him soon if you stick around. He can’t stay away.

Regarding you: many of us are older and (we think) wiser, so you did give us a chuckle. You just barely graduated and you know evvvverything about psychology and you’re here to help by teaching us part of that evvvvvverything. It’s not that we didn’t know evvvvverything too, when we were a few months out of college. It’s just that we’ve since then learned that we did not, in fact, know everything. So we are having flashbacks to our younger selves. And chuckling. Thanks for that!
Several people pointed out, please write something first. That’s a pretty good idea. And it’s not even said with a malicious hope the story you write won’t be good. From your posts, we already know you can write. A lottt! So, take a moment to write a story. (It’ll also entail a few days waiting for the story to post. Hint: leave no doubt that ALL characters are over 18, and, if you’re somehow into non-consent, make that be your second story not your first. That will make delays less likely.) Then you’ll totally be an author with some shared experiences.

And come on in and set a spell. Hope you stick around. (FYI that’s the other reason people who come in with a bang are met with a little hesitation. They vanish sometimes leaving us asking, who was that masked person?).

Masked. See what I did there? (My intro: I have to explain my jokes. The mark of true comedic genius)

 

[EmilyMiller]

Regarding you: many of us are older and (we think) wiser, so you did give us a chuckle.

Glad you added the “we think”. I’ve seen no correlation between wisdom and age on this site (or anywhere else) .

Maybe it was going to grad school. But my education enlightened me on one thing. How little I know. I’ve spoken Nobel Laureates and they are humble about the limitations of their knowledge.

I don’t feel much different now. I know some shit. There is a lot more I don’t and never will.

Em

 

[Djmac1031]

Glad you added the “we think”. I’ve seen no correlation between wisdom and age on this site (or anywhere else) .

Maybe it was going to grad school. But my education enlightened me on one thing. How little I know. I’ve spoken Nobel Laureates and they are humble about the limitations of their knowledge.

I don’t feel much different now. I know some shit. There is a lot more I don’t and never will.

Em

I can count to potato.

 

[EmilyMiller]

I can count to potato.

With your eyes closed and not looking at your thumb? Be honest.

Em

 

[AwkwardlySet]

Glad you added the “we think”. I’ve seen no correlation between wisdom and age on this site (or anywhere else) .

Maybe it was going to grad school. But my education enlightened me on one thing. How little I know. I’ve spoken Nobel Laureates and they are humble about the limitations of their knowledge.

I don’t feel much different now. I know some shit. There is a lot more I don’t and never will.

Em

I'd say you are both right. Age is no guarantee for wisdom, but I don't think you will find a single 40+ person here who doesn't think they are wiser than they were at hers or your age. It is of course all individual, but ten or twenty years from now, you will feel much wiser than you are right now. Experience is an important factor when it comes to wisdom

 

[BelleCanzuto]

Maybe it was going to grad school

Hon, wait 'til you're a couple of years out of grad school, and then you'll really understand how little you know.
And how much of what you've learned isn't applicable in real life

(though this sentiment applies ten fold to recent psych graduates, even if by "just graduated" means "just got my PhD)

 

[EmilyMiller]

I'd say you are both right. Age is no guarantee for wisdom, but I don't think you will find a single 40+ person here who doesn't think they are wiser than they were at hers or your age. It is of course all individual, but ten or twenty years from now, you will feel much wiser than you are right now. Experience is an important factor when it comes to wisdom

It’s a race between experience and brain cell apoptosis. Sometimes the apoptosis wins.

Take math. Most people say it’s a young person’s game. I’m not saying academic knowledge = wisdom. But if some brain functions peak before 40, surely others do as well.

Em

 

[Bamagan]

I can count to potato.

Boil 'em, mash 'em, stew 'em in a pot...
Tie Em up and pee on her,
I've heard she finds it hot

 

[BelleCanzuto]

Experience is an important factor when it comes to wisdom

Assuming one is willing to learn from that most harsh mistress, Experience.

But also - Preach it

 

[EmilyMiller]

Hon, wait 'til you're a couple of years out of grad school, and then you'll really understand how little you know.
And how much of what you've learned isn't applicable in real life

(though this sentiment applies ten fold to recent psych graduates, even if by "just graduated" means "just got my PhD)

Did you mean to address that to me?

1. I did Structural Biology in grad school, not Psychology
2. Grad school was some time ago
3. I just said kinda the same thing

Em

 

[BelleCanzuto]

But if some brain functions peak before 40, surely others do as well.

Wisdom is knowing how to compensate fir your theoretically diminished cognitive function.