Sanity Sam is a Traitor

[Busybody]

The Allies conducted a propaganda war against the AXIS, .

why don't we do it against ISLAM and MUSLIMS today?

 

[phrodeau]

DUMZ didnt

stop with the BS of centuries ago

 

[Que]

stop with the BS of centuries ago

1968 is 46 years ago. Not even 1/2 a century.

 

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[Busybody]

The "Leader" of their "Church" said when P Charles, (another NUT), takes role of KING, should have his hand on KORAN

 

[oggbashan]

He's pissed his country is bowing to Sharia Law instead of the queen.

I might be, if it was.

But it isn't. Sharia has no basis in English law.

We can provide banking arrangements that fit with Muslim beliefs, but bankers will do almost anything if they can make money.

There are religious bodies in the UK that can use Sharia law to settle disputes between members of their mosque if both parties agreed. Jewish bodies have been doing that for hundreds of years. They are usually about marriage and children. Church courts have been operational since Christianity came to the UK but they only have authority over religious matters.

Anyone can set up 'arbitration' between individuals and if the people with a dispute accept that arbitration it becomes legally binding.

 

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[oggbashan]

He posted something Isis said. Ogg, being English, got scared and yelled treason!

He posted ISIS propaganda in full. Not 'something Isis said'.

In the UK, he could face prosecution for that.

 

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[Busybody]

I might be, if it was.

But it isn't. Sharia has no basis in English law.

We can provide banking arrangements that fit with Muslim beliefs, but bankers will do almost anything if they can make money.

I don't believe you are oblivious as to what is going on in Europe and England

It must be Cognitive dissonance

mind you, OGGY, what you say to me and ABOUT ME, has been identical to what dozens upon dozens have said to me since 2001,

I AM THE ENEMY...Not Muslims/terrorists....ME, POSTING ON A PORN BOARD IS THE ENEMY

so many that have intelligence, are in such denial....it is hard to believe

I respect you...and your intelligence etc....But you are wrong

I wish I WERE WRONG...BUT IM NOT

 

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[oggbashan]

So, there's zero truth in this article?

Sharia law gets foothold in British legal system
Guidance allows wills that discriminate against women and exclude 'illegitimate' children and 'non-believers.'
By Haaretz | Mar. 24, 2014 | 3:54 PM

"Although Sharia principles are not currently recognized by British courts, a system of such courts has grown across the country to help mediate in disputes between Muslim families.

The new guidance will allow people the freedom to choose a will to reflect their own religious beliefs, but will no doubt spark a wider debate around the implications for gender equality."

http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.581660

There is truth.

If you are Muslim, and you want to write your will in accordance with your beliefs, the lawyers' guidance would help your solicitor to write such a will.

But, within legal guidelines, you can write your will in the UK anyhow you want. If you want to give twice as much to your sons as you give to your daughters - you can. You don't need Sharia to do that.

The guidance helps solicitors to write wills that will meet what their client wants and protect the testator from a legal challenge. If the testator wants a 'sharia-style' will, that could be difficult to write in such a way that it is robust enough to survive a challenge. The guidance helps.

But, however worded, the will has to be valid under English Law.

 

[Busybody]

while WHITEWASHING Islam and Muslims

England removes goods from Israel from grocery shelves.....Further pissing off G-D who will exact retribution

 

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[oggbashan]

Hey Ogg, no truth here either, eh?

Islamic (Sharia) Law in Germany, Holland and Britain

http://theatheistconservative.com/tag/sharia-law-in-germany-britain-and-the-netherlands/

Sharia is only valid in English Law for arbitration between two parties that accept the 'judge' as an arbitrator. There have been problems when the man wants a Sharia arbitrator and the woman doesn't - because her word under Sharia is worth less than his. If she doesn't accept the arbitrator, then the judgement is not valid in English Law.

There have been suggestions that Sharia Law has been used to decide about crimes committed by Muslims inside their own community. That is illegal under English Law. Sharia has no place in Criminal Justice. BUT - many communities now and in the past have taken the law into their own hands when they think the justice system isn't working properly.

There was a case locally about twenty years ago. One of the local young adults was being a consistent nuisance around town, shoplifting, breaking shop windows, abusing people in the street. He had been to court several times and had been released on bail, committing more offences within hours.

One night, when he was out of his head again on drink and drugs, a group of locals grabbed him, blindfolded him and tied him up. They took him out to sea and left him handcuffed to an anchor chain on a sandbank with the tide coming in. He was 'rescued' by a convenient fishing boat when the water was up to his chin. When he got back to his squat he found a typed message pinned to his door - "There are two tides a day." He got the hint and moved away. But what was done was wholly illegal if understandable.

 

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[Busybody]

she is right! there is ZERO reason to allow em in, ZERO

Islamic State (ISIS) Says Only a Matter of Time Before Europe Is Conquered; Plan ‘Largest Religious Cleansing Campaign’ in History

Posted on December 23, 2014 by Pamela Geller



When I got into this fight in the wake of September 11, I would never have believed that such warnings had any real possibility of coming true, despite the unspeakable blood and carnage of that horrible attack. But seeing how the West has submitted and surrendered to these savages, I don’t think it can be avoided.

Europe has forfeited its future, and any attempts to oppose the islamization of Europe are met with scorn, derision, defamation and criminalization. In other words, sharia enforcement.

Does the Islamic State of Europe seem so impossible? Between the Islamic State and Turkey’s entry into NATO and then the EU, it’s game over.

The prescient historian, Bat Ye’or, in her book Europe, Globalization, and the Coming Universal Caliphate, predicted that Europe will not remain multicultural for long. She warned that Europe would be dominated by Islamic extremists and transformed into “Eurabia.” She was right, and she wrote that before the sweeping gains of the Islamic State.

Immigrants can enrich a nation. But there is a difference between immigrants and colonists. The former are eager to learn the ways of their adopted home, to integrate and perhaps assimilate — which does not require relinquishing their heritage or forgetting their roots. Colonists, by contrast, bring their culture with them and live under their own laws. Their loyalties lie elsewhere.

 

[Busybody]

Sharia is only valid in English Law for arbitration between two parties that accept the 'judge' as an arbitrator. .

Im sure you know, to us LONG TERM is a decade or thre

To them, SHORT TERM is a century or 3

This mission creep, means nothing to you and yours, until you are overwhelmed and then its TOO LATE

 

[RobDownSouth]

Hey Ogg, no truth here either, eh?

Islamic (Sharia) Law in Germany, Holland and Britain

http://theatheistconservative.com/tag/sharia-law-in-germany-britain-and-the-netherlands/

From your article, both sides have to agree to binding arbitration, much like here in the USA. The difference seems to be that in the US it is limited to civil actions, in other countries, they can apply arbitration to criminal matters as well.

 

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[Boxlicker101]

Sharia is only valid in English Law for arbitration between two parties that accept the 'judge' as an arbitrator. There have been problems when the man wants a Sharia arbitrator and the woman doesn't - because her word under Sharia is worth less than his. If she doesn't accept the arbitrator, then the judgement is not valid in English Law.

There have been suggestions that Sharia Law has been used to decide about crimes committed by Muslims inside their own community. That is illegal under English Law. Sharia has no place in Criminal Justice. BUT - many communities now and in the past have taken the law into their own hands when they think the justice system isn't working properly.

There was a case locally about twenty years ago. One of the local young adults was being a consistent nuisance around town, shoplifting, breaking shop windows, abusing people in the street. He had been to court several times and had been released on bail, committing more offences within hours.

One night, when he was out of his head again on drink and drugs, a group of locals grabbed him, blindfolded him and tied him up. They took him out to sea and left him handcuffed to an anchor chain on a sandbank with the tide coming in. He was 'rescued' by a convenient fishing boat when the water was up to his chin. When he got back to his squat he found a typed message pinned to his door - "There are two tides a day." He got the hint and moved away. But what was done was wholly illegal if understandable.

Lynching and/or vigilante justice used to be quite common in the US also.

 

[cjh]

Ogg, in addition to your many other skills, you are a fine contributor to political discussions.

 

[oggbashan]

The larger underlying point is this, Sharia Law cannot exist in Western Civilization if it is to remain "Western," nor can it exist in the same space occupied by the US Constitution.

It only has any status in the UK if both parties in a civil dispute agree to it. It is a form of arbitration. Its main advantage, like all other forms of civil arbitration, is that it is far cheaper than going to a Civil Court.

But it is unfair to women, and most Muslim women recognise that it is, so they are refusing to use Sharia. Unfortunately they can then face hostility and bullying from their relations and communities.

Anyone can set themselves up as an arbitrator in the UK if both parties agreed to be bound by the decision. Amateur arbitrators have a poor success rate. Sharia can work reasonably for disputes between Muslim men.

One point though - What is 'Sharia Law'? Muslims disagree among themselves about it. There are many versions. The ISIS and Taleban versions are at the extreme edge of the definitions.

 

[oggbashan]

Ogg, in addition to your many other skills, you are a fine contributor to political discussions.

Thank you. I try.

I also try to respect people's views, including Sanity Sam's, that are widely different from mine.