Scream it out! Roe v. Wade edition

[VoraciousValue]

what the ever-loving fuck are you talking about. i’m one of those people with a conservative point of view that you (and so many other respondents in this thread) so readily disparage and negatively characterize with your assumptions. i know my views are counter to those of many others. but i don’t run rampant over them nor force my views on them like the high school bully. instead, i choose civil discourse, work to find areas of agreement and compromise, and seek common sense solutions that best represent my views.

For many of us, the idea of a well-spoken, polite, civil, compromising conservative has become a McGuffin, basically. In the experience of many people (especially myself), the population of conservatives like that are virtually non-existent. I said up thread that literally about 95% of Republicans I've known are brutally racist, and that's literal truth. That's been my experience and the experience of many others.

Let me tell you a story: In 2002, my home county (very rural Bible Belt area) elected a Democrat as county commissioner. He was pro-life and pro-gun, because that was literally the only type of Democrat who could win in a rural area, and that's even more true now. I've been called a liar for saying that, but I can show myriad examples of this. Anyway.

The conservatives had a 2-1 advantage on the county council and literally spent eight years going out of their way to do everything possible to prevent him from trying to honestly run the county government. He left the county with a small budget surplus anyway. No sooner did the conservatives get back in than that surplus magically disappeared. But nearly every rural county has a similar story now. I have never seen honest conservative governance in my lifetime. It's that simple. I'm not the only one who has witnessed the same pattern repeatedly.

So please understand that we are not doubting (or at least I'm not) your self-identity or your honesty. It's just that experience has taught us to be extremely cautious.

No, what we need is a nationwide strike.

Which will never happen. First of all, that would smack of "socialism" and that sends Americans to the exits on contact. Second, Americans care more about inflation and non-existent taxes than they will care about abortion.

 

[Xerxes82]

It wouldn't surprise me if access to effective contraception is restricted or outlawed down the line.

Don't have to be surprised, and down the line is already here. Multiple states have seen bills introduced (even before this latest SCOTUS moment) that would ban or even criminalize UID's as a form of abortion. Right wing groups have decried hormonal birth control for decades, and have recently begun capitalizing on the increase in medicinal abortion to attempt to link the two. This despite the fact that hormonal birth control is frequently prescribed for a number of non-birth control related medical conditions and banning it would have a direct negative impact on women's health generally in a way that we can measure and report RIGHT NOW without theory.

They never seem to go after condoms. Outside of trying to keep them outside of schools and public spaces. Because guys wear those? But if it's a female contraceptive? It is already 100% under attack by the right wing in the US.

 

[ToPleaseHim]

For those of you who are not currently researching issues related to reproduction and authority in the 17th-century, I just want to offer a quick "you are here" sticker for your mental directory map: the jurist that Alito leans on as a foundation for this opinion conducted LITERAL WITCH TRIALS. Literally murdered women for "witchcraft" and also openly supported rape. That's the legal precedent on which the majority of the SCOTUS stands. That's where we are, right now today.

 

[Fermina_Daza]

Fuck Republicans.

Definitely DO NOT fuck a republican. Unless you have proof they’ve had a vasectomy. I’d still use some Plan B (while it’s legal) after.

Maybe even rinse with some bleach. Burn some sage.

 

[base10]

They don’t care. They can’t see beyond their own noses.

They do care, they care to go back to a world of witch trials

 

[Crankbait88]

I'm against abortion in most cases. But I'd be a lot more sympathetic to the cause if abortion wasn't used as a birth control method for half of all abortions or in the post 13 week gestation period.

And im fine with the court overturning Roe v Wade and making it a state's right to choose.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

I'm against abortion in most cases. But I'd be a lot more sympathetic to the cause if abortion wasn't used as a birth control method for half of all abortions or in the post 13 week gestation period.

And im fine with the court overturning Roe v Wade and making it a state's right to choose.

Okay...

I have no idea what your opinion is based on...

 

[AveryElle]

Don't have to be surprised, and down the line is already here. Multiple states have seen bills introduced (even before this latest SCOTUS moment) that would ban or even criminalize UID's as a form of abortion. Right wing groups have decried hormonal birth control for decades, and have recently begun capitalizing on the increase in medicinal abortion to attempt to link the two. This despite the fact that hormonal birth control is frequently prescribed for a number of non-birth control related medical conditions and banning it would have a direct negative impact on women's health generally in a way that we can measure and report RIGHT NOW without theory.

right wing groups have gone after fertility treatment for a loooooong time. Fertility patients are already preparing for excessive regulations on their medical treatment - especially genetic testing options. It's so disgusting.

 

[AveryElle]

I'm against abortion in most cases. But I'd be a lot more sympathetic to the cause if abortion wasn't used as a birth control method for half of all abortions or in the post 13 week gestation period.

And im fine with the court overturning Roe v Wade and making it a state's right to choose.

States rights!
Signed,
people who think the civil war was about states rights

 

[LustfulIntentions2]

Okay...

I have no idea what your opinion is based on...

Definitely not facts.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

Oh boy, shots fired.

Meh. I just see it as uninformed nonsense.

We know the statistics.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

Yuuuuuup. Dude is trolling.

I bet he's never even had an abortion before

#rookie

 

[Crankbait88]

Okay...

I have no idea what your opinion is based on...

Not sure where my statement is anymore opinion than anyone elses.

 

[Crankbait88]

States rights!
Signed,
people who think the civil war was about states rights

The Civil War was first and foremost about slavery. Bit thanks for trying to figure out what I believe.

 

[Crankbait88]

Yuuuuuup. Dude is trolling.

I guess having a differing stance makes it trolling.

 

[Crankbait88]

Meh. I just see it as uninformed nonsense.

We know the statistics.

Please show me where my statistic(s) are wrong considering my statement only contained one statistic.

 

[Crankbait88]

I bet he's never even had an abortion before

#rookie

You are correct in that matter.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

Please show me where my statistic(s) are wrong considering my statement only contained one statistic.

It's on you to prove you're right, dude.

You made the claim. Cough up the receipts.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

You are correct in that matter.

Someone owes me a coke

 

[aussiegeekygal]

I guess having a differing stance makes it trolling.

Nah, but my placing bets on your abortion status.

That's God level trolling

 

[Crankbait88]

It's on you to prove you're right, dude.

You made the claim. Cough up the receipts.

Point out the statistic in my statement that you think is incorrect, and I'd be more than happy to provide the cite from a legitimate, governmental/educational/medical source that is not right leaning. Would that satisfy you?

 

[aussiegeekygal]

I don't care.
You asked me to disprove you. I'm not going to do that.

I'm not asking you to provide your receipts, just letting you know that when you make a claim, it's on you to provide evidence, not the other person. I could have been clearer about that. My bad

I mean, you're welcome to do it. If you want. It's totally up to you.

 

[Crankbait88]

I don't care.
You asked me to disprove you. I'm not going to do that.

I'm not asking you to provide your receipts, just letting you know that when you make a claim, it's on you to provide evidence, not the other person. I could have been clearer about that. My bad

I mean, you're welcome to do it. If you want. It's totally up to you.

I hope your reading comprehension is not as bad as it appears. I never asked you to disprove my statement. I asked you to point to the statistic you said was incorrect, and that I would cite it.

Again, I never asked you to prove anything. I hope that is clear enough for you to understand.

 

[Crankbait88]

I don't care.
You asked me to disprove you. I'm not going to do that.

I'm not asking you to provide your receipts, just letting you know that when you make a claim, it's on you to provide evidence, not the other person. I could have been clearer about that. My bad

I mean, you're welcome to do it. If you want. It's totally up to you.

What I definitely suck at is figuring out multiquote.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

Cool beans