Socialism is a crime against humanity

[Bray123]

It's always entertaining to watch people who self-identify as 'Christian' denigrate the teachings of Jesus.

Heal the poor? Only if it gives profits to billionaires.
Feed the hungry? Let Them Pull on their Bootstraps.
Help the traveller? Shoot them as they climb the wall.
Throw the profiteers out of the temple? Take my money!

 

[Wilson23]

It's always entertaining to watch people who self-identify as 'Christian' denigrate the teachings of Jesus.

Heal the poor? Only if it gives profits to billionaires.
Feed the hungry? Let Them Pull on their Bootstraps.
Help the traveller? Shoot them as they climb the wall.
Throw the profiteers out of the temple? Take my money!

To be fair, Jesus was talking about personal ethics -- he did not have a social revolution in mind.

Jesus DID have a revolution in mind, but it was a purely nationalist revolution, against Roman rule.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zealot:_The_Life_and_Times_of_Jesus_of_Nazareth

 

[Bray123]

To be fair, Jesus was talking about personal ethics -- he did not have a social revolution in mind.

Jesus DID have a revolution in mind, but it was a purely nationalist revolution, against Roman rule.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zealot:_The_Life_and_Times_of_Jesus_of_Nazareth

Yes, that's the typical weasel-word excuse that they give for shooting people of a different ethnicity.

Turns out that they are more aligned with the Romans than the disciples.

 

[TastySuckToy]

Yeah, well, that's what I said about socialism. Amerika was founded on robbing slaves of their most important resources, their labor and their dignity in order to make white men richer and more controlling. Same for what was done to women, Native people, and a succession of various immigrant groups.

Now this robbery from scapegoats still takes place, but in a less obvious way. Marginalize 'em, exploit 'em, and then kick 'em out or imprison 'em when they start to get uppity.

So...you agree taking people's time and resources by force is theft?

As for your assertion that health care, nutrition, housing, and education are not human rights, that's the immorality which normalizes socialism for the rich, Mr. SuckToy.

It's immoral to claim a right to other people's time, labour and resources. Where do you think health care, nutrition, housing and education comes from? La La Land and fairies who work for free?

 

[alexgriffin74]

So...you agree taking people's time and resources by force is theft?

It's immoral to claim a right to other people's time, labour and resources. Where do you think health care, nutrition, housing and education comes from? La La Land and fairies who work for free?

You think Elon or Trump or Gates or Bezos works for what they get?

 

[coati]

It's immoral to claim a right to other people's time, labour and resources. Where do you think health care, nutrition, housing and education comes from? La La Land and fairies who work for free?

Rational people do not to rely on MAGAts for guidance on morality and human rights.

Especially a tacky MAGAt who calls himself TastySuckToy.

 

[alexgriffin74]

Rational people do not to rely on MAGAts for guidance on morality and human rights.

Especially a tacky MAGAt who calls himself TastySuckToy.

Facts.

 

[TastySuckToy]

Rational people do not to rely on MAGAts for guidance on morality and human rights.

Your inability to refute the point is noted.

 

[coati]

Your inability to refute the point is noted.

Why would I bother to refute a worn out talking point doled out to brainwashed simps by billionnare oligarchs?

 

[AlexBailey]

Your inability to refute the point is noted.

Do you refute that the United States, particularly now under Trump, is a plutocracy?

 

[TastySuckToy]

Why would I bother to refute a worn out talking point

It's quite obvious you can't.

Health care, nutrition, housing and education are either provided to yourself or by others as services. They're not rights. No one has rights to other people's money, labour and resources.

Do you refute that the United States, particularly now under Trump, is a plutocracy?

I don't care what you think the United States is. That isn't my argument.

 

[Wilson23]

So...you agree taking people's time and resources by force is theft?

It's immoral to claim a right to other people's time, labour and resources. Where do you think health care, nutrition, housing and education comes from? La La Land and fairies who work for free?

If you ever catch yourself thinking like an Objectivist, kill yourself IMMEDIATELY.

 

[AlexBailey]

It's quite obvious you can't.

Health care, nutrition, housing and education are either provided to yourself or by others as services. They're not rights. No one has rights to other people's money, labour and resources.

I don't care what you think the United States is. That isn't my argument.

Okay, so do you believe in plutocracy as a just social structure?

 

[Iluv17]

Huff said...

 

[TastySuckToy]

Okay, so do you believe in plutocracy as a just social structure?

What part of "I'm not arguing about the United States or plutocracy" do you not understand?

 

[Wilson23]

What part of "I'm not arguing about the United States or plutocracy" do you not understand?

Your failure to meet that challenge.

 

[Hel_Books]

Capitalism is awesome,

That's why unions were created to fight for decent wages and working conditions. That's why pure food and drug laws were passed. That's why child labour laws were passed. That's why your Superfund was enacted. That's why the USA made it illegal for corporations to bribe foreign officials. That's why monopolists are prosecuted.

Because capitalism is so awesome.

 

[TastySuckToy]

That's why unions were created to fight for decent wages and working conditions. That's why pure food and drug laws were passed. That's why child labour laws were passed. That's why your Superfund was enacted. That's why the USA made it illegal for corporations to bribe foreign officials. That's why monopolists are prosecuted.

Because capitalism is so awesome.

Societies and economic systems implement rules and regulations? Say it ain't so!

 

[Wilson23]

Societies and economic systems implement rules and regulations? Say it ain't so!

The point is they NEED to. They can't leave things to the market.

 

[AlexBailey]

What part of "I'm not arguing about the United States or plutocracy" do you not understand?

Oh, I know you have no interest in talking about the failures of capitalism - concepts like plutocracy, oligarchy, kleptocracy, or even neo-feudalism.

Come on and tell us how much you love the idea of wealthy tech bros like Musk or Palmer Luckey holding the key codes to the world’s military arsenals.

Come on and tell us how you want rich guys to hold more power than the Guv’ment that you rail against for telling you what to do.

Or… just go eat a dick.

 

[TastySuckToy]

The point is they NEED to. They can't leave things to the market.

All economic systems need rules and regulations.

Are you trying to be this stupid, or does it just come naturally?

concepts like plutocracy, oligarchy, kleptocracy, or even neo-feudalism.

...have absolutely nothing to do with my argument that health care, nutrition, housing and education are not rights.

Get it yet, or do I need to use smaller words for you?

 

[Iluv17]

The bottom line is we will NEVER be a.socialist country nor will there be ANY SOCIALIST COUNTRIES WHEN THIS IS SAID AND DONE! Has anyone noticed whats happening to socialist countries in the world!? Their governments are being REPLACED! DO SOME RESEARCH! TRUTH

 

[Wilson23]

The bottom line is we will NEVER be a.socialist country nor will there be ANY SOCIALIST COUNTRIES WHEN THIS IS SAID AND DONE! Has anyone noticed whats happening to socialist countries in the world!? Their governments are being REPLACED! DO SOME RESEARCH! TRUTH

But the social democracies are NOT.

 

[Wilson23]

...have absolutely nothing to do with my argument that health care, nutrition, housing and education are not rights.

THAT is a LIE!

 

[AlexBailey]

All economic systems need rules and regulations.

Are you trying to be this stupid, or does it just come naturally?


...have absolutely nothing to do with my argument that health care, nutrition, housing and education are not rights.

Get it yet, or do I need to use smaller words for you?

I understand your myopic position.

I’m saying that a government that focuses on accumulating individual wealth rather than providing access for all citizens to
health care, nutrition, housing and education will fail. They always do, and when they do the population will embrace socialism or something similar.

Do you understand that concept?

Greed has consequences. Part of the design of democracy is intended to manage and protect against the concentration of wealth. When wealthy people control government for their own benefit (plutocracy) socialism becomes desirable to the masses.

You want to talk yang and not yin.

Eat a dick, please.