"Soooo sad and yet so sexy."

[MrHereWriting]

It never fails to amuse me when regulars with the emotional intelligence of a beaver speak of depth.

You see yourself as Mel Gibson's William Wallace when you're really Jerry Seinfeld's Newman.

You ever get tired of being a waste of time?

 

[Britva415]

This is almost proved by Wham's Last Christmas...which is ultimately a tear jerker of a story...girl moving on the previous xmas. Yet everyone laps it up year after year.

"Girl"?

Oh... yeah... Wham.

 

[SimonDoom]

You see yourself as Mel Gibson's William Wallace when you're really Jerry Seinfeld's Newman.

You ever get tired of being a waste of time?

We all know what happened to Newman when he turned the electricity off of the dinosaur paddocks and lost his way to the dock.

 

[MrHereWriting]

I get a strange yet fleeting satisfaction
From holding up a mirror and watching the reaction
Now go sort it out with the other beavers in detention;
Not a drop more of my attention.

It's good to know a few words with me gave you such an intense experience that you wrote a a little poem, feeling alive now? Unfortunately, for me, I'll experience more emotion during my next BM.

Not a drop more of my attention.

You better be a man of your word.

 

[SimonDoom]

The Brotherhood of the Madafuckers Clan...

Freud is laughing his ass off.

Dilophosaurus in Jurassic Park to Newman: Munch munch munch.

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

For some strange reason, it just occurred to me that narcissists are incapable of self reflection...

 

[MelissaBaby]

Please elucidate... As with your writing, we want more...

There is nothing more cringe than poorly expressed emotion. Anyone who thinks that writing a story that elicits a genuine emotional response from readers is easy either never tried to write one, or should be buying their ticket to Stockholm to accept their Nobel Prize.

 

[LargoKitt]

When I read, it is to be entertained...
To that end, I need emotions to be stirred, I want to feel.... Something...
A good story will expose the characters contained within said story.

Good authors draw me in with characters who are flawed... They stumble, get back up and reach again.
A great story will contain an element of sadness, sorrow, grief, pain.

A great story will reflect life as it is, in all it's twisted agonising panorama.
Sadness is part of life. If you can paint a picture with words that makes me feel sorrow, you have captured my heart.
Emotions, positives and negatives... Feel them as we read. Ebb and flow, happiness, grief.

Those are the great writers.

In my opinion anyway.

Cagiovagurl

Cagivagurl, I completely get your opinion/sentiment. Stories are better that really get the range of human emotion. Lovers that connect deeply are more real and moving than caricatures. Buuuut, my question was, "Why is sadness sexy? An answer that guys might understand is the 'makeup sex is stronger' than 'Friday night sex'. But that's anger and release of anger. No, it's something about yearning. And stories usually contain conflict, so 'conflict plus sex' equals dramatically better sex. But, I'm educating myself here so I can write better stories, so how does unhappy mate with horny to ramp up the erotic quotient? Maybe an example rather than an explanation.

 

[MelissaBaby]

He's not stating a 'rule of writing' and the ease of which some stories are written compared to others. When people want to cry, it doesn't take much to make them cry, that's what he's saying.

When people want to cum, it doesn't take much to make them cum.

 

[MrHereWriting]

When people want to cum, it doesn't make much to make them cum.

I nearly typed that as a secondary example that there's no need to be offended by what they said.

 

[LargoKitt]

Poppycock and Blanderdash! I think Bobby would totally disagree with you!

As Shelby pointed out there are things that are so astoundingly beautiful, so soul-touching in their perfection that it will make one cry. But I don't think that was what the OP was talking about because they specifically referenced tragedy.

I believe some need to feel sadness and/or grief and for those people, through a story vicariously is the only way that can. Why? How can you appreciate a thing until you've experienced its opposite? How can one appreciate light if they've never been in the darkness? How can one appreciate love if they've never experienced indifference? To really appreciate what we have, we must also understand what it is to be without it.


Comshaw

"To really appreciate what we have, we must also understand what it is to be without it." I really get this. OTOH, for example, when I had my very first love, and then my dad decided a few weeks later to pull up roots, and I left town singing 'I saw those Harbor Lights. They only told me we were parting.' never to see her again. I'm not tempted to go back and relive that 'delicious sadness' of a broken heart. But I guess I can see it. Just as some people want to play Warcraft who would never want to go to war.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

I mean, they say so much.

Darn, beat me to that...

 

[Cagivagurl]

Cagivagurl, I completely get your opinion/sentiment. Stories are better that really get the range of human emotion. Lovers that connect deeply are more real and moving than caricatures. Buuuut, my question was, "Why is sadness sexy? An answer that guys might understand is the 'makeup sex is stronger' than 'Friday night sex'. But that's anger and release of anger. No, it's something about yearning. And stories usually contain conflict, so 'conflict plus sex' equals dramatically better sex. But, I'm educating myself here so I can write better stories, so how does unhappy mate with horny to ramp up the erotic quotient? Maybe an example rather than an explanation.

My response was more about why I personally enjoy stories which arouse the full range of human emotions...

Is sad sexy?

No... Not in my mind anyway.

Makeup sex is fuelled by anger not grief....

Could humans use sex as a tool to help a loved one overcome grief? Yes, I believe so...
IF a partner is grieving badly, and is offered a shoulder to cry on, an embrace from somebody they love and treasure. Sex might be something that happened as a response to a huge swell of emotions...

Is sadness sexy... No... maybe it arouses feelings of empathy... Pity... Shared emotions.

Cagivagurl

 

[MelissaBaby]

I nearly typed that as a secondary example that there's no need to be offended by what they said.

Respectfully, that’s not for you to decide.

 

[MrHereWriting]

Respectfully, that’s not for you to decide.

Be offended then, feel attacked, enjoy being the victim of of your own imagination.

 

[Cali_Love]

When a story stays with you long after you read it . . .

Read here the gold standard of a sexy tearjerker: https://www.literotica.com/s/the-rehab

 

[MelissaBaby]

Be offended then, feel attacked, enjoy being the victim of of your own imagination.

Did I say I was offended? No, I did not, I merely said that it was your place to decide for me if I had a right to be or not. And yet, you felt you could assign it to me.

My response on this thread was more of an eye rolling "here we go again" than anything else. I did not intend to reply after my first post, but Shelby asked me to. Perhaps I should have answered her in private and just gone back to knocking out my easy emotional stories.

 

[MrHereWriting]

Did I say I was offended? No, I did not, I merely said that it was your place to decide for me if I had a right to be or not. And yet, you felt you could assign it to me.

My response on this thread was more of an eye rolling "here we go again" than anything else. I did not intend to reply after my first post, but Shelby asked me to. Perhaps I should have answered her in private and just gone back to knocking out my easy emotional stories.

Yeah, you don't sound offended. Do what you like, it's your life.

Perhaps I should have answered her in private and just gone back to knocking out my easy emotional stories.

And that's not what he said. He never said they were easy to write, and Lifestyle66 agreed with what I said. If he had actually insulted someone's effort in writing a story, my reply would have been to him, not to you.

 

[StillStunned]

Two people disagree. It happens. Can we move on?

 

[pink_silk_glove]

And that's not what he said. He never said they were easy to write, and Lifestyle66 agreed with what I said. If he had actually insulted someone's effort in writing a story, my reply would have been to him, not to you.

Either way, writing emotional OR writing to play on emotions is not as easy as kinky stroke. So I disagree.

 

[SimonDoom]

Two people disagree. It happens. Can we move on?

For most people, this is not a problem. There's always a small group of people who do not understand the concept of civil disagreement. That's where 95% of the problems in online forums like this one arise.

 

[MrHereWriting]

Either way, writing emotional OR writing to play on emotions is not as easy as kinky stroke. So I disagree.

The comment had nothing to do with what was easy to write, but what people go looking for and the reason why. A person looking to cry is going to cry, it's not hard to draw it out of them if that's what they want to do.

 

[MelissaBaby]

Either way, writing emotional OR writing to play on emotions is not as easy as kinky stroke. So I disagree.

As long as I’ve posted here, and I imagine well before, there has been a recurring theme from some posters of denigrating erotica that focuses more on the emotional, rather than the physical aspects of sexuality. I read Lifestyle’s comment in that context, one of which MrHereWriting may not be aware.

 

[MrHereWriting]

As long as I’ve posted here, and I imagine well before, there has been a recurring theme from some posters of denigrating erotica that focuses more on the emotional, rather than the physical aspects of sexuality. I read Lifestyle’s comment in that context, one of which MrHereWriting may not be aware.

I was trying to clear up a misunderstanding that I thought would alleviate some feelings of disappointment.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

The comment had nothing to do with what was easy to write, but what people go looking for and the reason why. A person looking to cry is going to cry, it's not hard to draw it out of them if that's what they want to do.

Nope. Wrong-o! Very few readers are actively looking to cry, although they may not mind if it happens. A minority of the readers here want something with more emotional depth than kinky stroke porn and the tragedy seekers are a micro subset of even that. Further still, it is more difficult to pull tears out of someone who actually wants despair, hardship and grief than it is to get wankers to wank. It is FAR more difficult, because in order to make someone feel that depth, the emotion has to first be genuine, and then on top of that, the writer must do the groundwork of connecting the reader to the character(s) enough so that the reader actually cares about them. One can't simply present a person in distress. One needs to plot the person INTO distress (or at least deliver a convincing backstory without a wall of boring exposition). In stroke sheets nothing has to be set up (it CAN be but it's entirely unnecessary) - just get Mom in son's lap and start riding and the wankers will wank. Job done. It's a cakewalk compared to writing emotional depth.