Story rejected for AI: Now what?

[AwkwardMD]

Bonjour, je n'ai pas conservé le texte avant car je modifie moi même les propositions de modification orthographique, et donc je n'ai pas changé mon texte initial. Dans antidote, il y a plusieurs possibilité de proposition, entre la langue= orthographe, mais aussi la typographie, le style, une révision, statistiques et l'inspection. Sachant que le site utilise un programme de contrôle IA et je trouve ça très bien, je me suis volontairement limité à l'orthographe. Si j'avais utilisé le correcteur de Word j'aurai eu la même chose en moins bien. Et professionnellement je préfère Antidote. Donc je suis un peu déçu, par rapport aux heures que j'ai passé sur mon style et ma correction par la relecture, et qu'un simple outil informatique me rejette.Pour vérifier la probité IA de mon texte, je l'ai passé avec "Justdone.ai qui me donnait suivant mes textes une probité entre 11 et 20%, ce qui est très loin des scores refusés dans les universités métamériques ou françaises.En tout cas merci de prendre le temps de me répondre

Ran this through a translator, so apologies if I misunderstood.

I would guess that Antidote has tainted your story irrevocably. I'm sorry I don't have better news. Don't let programs like this anywhere near your work if publishing on Lit is in your future. Good luck with your future writing

 

[loic333]

J'ai utilisé un traducteur automatique, veuillez donc m'excuser si j'ai mal compris.

Je crains qu'Antidote n'ait irrémédiablement gâché votre récit. Je suis désolé de ne pas avoir de meilleures nouvelles. Si vous envisagez de publier sur Lit, évitez absolument ce genre de logiciels avec vos écrits. Bonne chance pour la suite.

Mais le correcteur de Word Microsoft va avoir le même impact...d'autre part quel logiciel de reconnaissance AI est utilisé et quel taux de risque AI est utilisé car nos tournures françaises peuvent être trompeuses et créées des faux négatifs et bien sûr que vous êtes tout excusé

 

[AwkwardMD]

Mais le correcteur de Word Microsoft va avoir le même impact...d'autre part quel logiciel de reconnaissance AI est utilisé et quel taux de risque AI est utilisé car nos tournures françaises peuvent être trompeuses et créées des faux négatifs et bien sûr que vous êtes tout excusé

200-ish stories published every day would suggest there is a difference.


Word represents the default program for most authors. We can reasonably assume the same goes for Literotica. These writers aren't having a problem.

Literotica's AI detector seems likely to be homegrown, and does not operate on the same criteria that mainstream AI detectors (like ZeroGPT) do.

Assuming you exposed your story to an overeager LLM but nothing else, that would be a false positive. False positives have always been the concern.

 

[loic333]

La publication d'environ 200 articles par jour laisse penser qu'il existe une différence.

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Word est le logiciel par défaut de la plupart des auteurs. On peut raisonnablement supposer qu'il en va de même pour Literotica. Ces auteurs ne rencontrent aucun problème.

Le détecteur d'IA de Literotica semble être une solution interne et ne fonctionne pas selon les mêmes critères que les détecteurs d'IA classiques (comme ZeroGPT).

Si vous avez exposé votre histoire à un LLM trop zélé, mais rien de plus, il s'agirait d'un faux positif. Les faux positifs ont toujours été une source d'inquiétude.

Merci à vous pour toutes ces informations.. (votre stat neanmoins date de 2023 et depuis il y a beaucoup d'évolution... meme copilot est une IA) Bon mon soucis est que j'ai fini ma série qui fait 39 chapitres de 30 000 mots en moyenne
et que j'ai utilisé antidote.12 pour tous mes textes.. donc soit on accepte de considérer que ce sont des faux positifs ou alors je n'ai pas de solution.. en même temps je suis surpris que leur détecteur soit maison et soit capable de contrôler les tournures de phrase Française. HAUT LES COEURS
après il m'est proposé de trouver un éditeur français pour relire et le valider ou pas pour la team... après il lui faudra beaucoup de temps...

 

[kokomoe1]

Someone wrote this as a joke earlier in the thread by they are actually spot on.

You need to add small grammatical errors throughout your story, it will help you get past the AI check.

 

[old_prof]

Someone wrote this as a joke earlier in the thread by they are actually spot on.

You need to add small grammatical errors throughout your story, it will help you get past the AI check.

No it doesn't.

 

[kokomoe1]

No it doesn't.

It sure does. If you put something in an AI check and make grammatical errors, the likelihood of it being "AI" is reduce significantly.

 

[old_prof]

It sure does. If you put something in an AI check and make grammatical errors, the likelihood of it being "AI" is reduce significantly.

The online AI checks are garbage. I am starting to think they are put up by the AI companies (which they are) purely to mislead consumers. Flipping a coin does a better job at detecting AI than they do. They are not what any serious effort to detect AI uses.

 

[BeechLeaf]

Some years ago, before 'serious' AI existed, back when the trendy Internet was awash with memes and quizzes, there was one tool that claimed to detect from your writing whether you were male or female. No idea how it worked: proportion of connectives, or positive or emotional words, or...?

I happened to write on a site where I had two main accounts, one of each sex, just me naturally writing as the person. I was definitely not trying to 'sound' male or female. I dropped a sample of my male account's writing into this tool: 55% to 60% chance I was male. Dropped a bit of the female one in: 55% to 60% chance I was female.

Grinned. Felt validated that I was smarter as a writer than these tools were as a detector. I doubt anything has fundamentally changed since then.

 

[onehitwanda]

It sure does. If you put something in an AI check and make grammatical errors, the likelihood of it being "AI" is reduce significantly.

Cum hoc ergo propter hoc.

 

[AwkwardMD]

Some years ago, before 'serious' AI existed, back when the trendy Internet was awash with memes and quizzes, there was one tool that claimed to detect from your writing whether you were male or female. No idea how it worked: proportion of connectives, or positive or emotional words, or...?

I happened to write on a site where I had two main accounts, one of each sex, just me naturally writing as the person. I was definitely not trying to 'sound' male or female. I dropped a sample of my male account's writing into this tool: 55% to 60% chance I was male. Dropped a bit of the female one in: 55% to 60% chance I was female.

Grinned. Felt validated that I was smarter as a writer than these tools were as a detector. I doubt anything has fundamentally changed since then.

This is a bit like saying "I had a tire pressure detector that went bad years ago. The more things change the more they stay the same."

 

[old_prof]

Some years ago, before 'serious' AI existed, back when the trendy Internet was awash with memes and quizzes, there was one tool that claimed to detect from your writing whether you were male or female. No idea how it worked: proportion of connectives, or positive or emotional words, or...?

I happened to write on a site where I had two main accounts, one of each sex, just me naturally writing as the person. I was definitely not trying to 'sound' male or female. I dropped a sample of my male account's writing into this tool: 55% to 60% chance I was male. Dropped a bit of the female one in: 55% to 60% chance I was female.

Grinned. Felt validated that I was smarter as a writer than these tools were as a detector. I doubt anything has fundamentally changed since then.

There was a company several years ago who would predict the gender of your baby, money back guarantee. I think they made you fill out a form and claimed it was some sort of computer wizardry that would figure it out. They just predicted all girls. At worst, they kept half the money they were sent. In reality, most parents of newborns are way too busy to ask for a refund, so they just almost all of the money.

As long as they could find enough suckers to more than pay for their advertising, it was free money

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

Some years ago, before 'serious' AI existed, back when the trendy Internet was awash with memes and quizzes, there was one tool that claimed to detect from your writing whether you were male or female. No idea how it worked: proportion of connectives, or positive or emotional words, or...?

I happened to write on a site where I had two main accounts, one of each sex, just me naturally writing as the person. I was definitely not trying to 'sound' male or female. I dropped a sample of my male account's writing into this tool: 55% to 60% chance I was male. Dropped a bit of the female one in: 55% to 60% chance I was female.

Grinned. Felt validated that I was smarter as a writer than these tools were as a detector. I doubt anything has fundamentally changed since then.

Can't help but wonder what that tool would make of me...

 

[PennyThompson]

Can't help but wonder what that tool would make of me...

Here's one that claims to be 60-70% accurate... https://www.hackerfactor.com/GenderGuesser.php

My result for the first 400 words of my most recent story:

Genre: Formal
Female = 868
Male = 813
Difference = -55; 48.36%
Verdict: Weak FEMALE
Weak emphasis could indicate European.

I feel vaguely offended on several levels

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

Here's one that claims to be 60-70% accurate... https://www.hackerfactor.com/GenderGuesser.php

My result for the first 400 words of my most recent story:



I feel vaguely offended on several levels

I found https://app.readable.com/text/gender/ and plugged in about 750 words of several of my stories.
Their scale doesn't give percentages but claims to be about 70% accurate.All but two of the samples I submitted scored similar to the example below. Of the other two, one was decidedly masculine. The other was indecisive.
Interesting excercise.

 

[PennyThompson]

I found https://app.readable.com/text/gender/ and plugged in about 750 words of several of my stories.
Their scale doesn't give percentages but claims to be about 70% accurate.All but two of the samples I submitted scored similar to the example below. Of the other two, one was decidedly masculine. The other was indecisive.
Interesting excercise.

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Now I kind of want to try and write the most butch story and the most femme story I can, and see how far I can push the gender stereotype meter

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

Now I kind of want to try and write the most butch story and the most femme story I can, and see how far I can push the gender stereotype meter

I'm kind of wondering what 'Weak emphasis could indicate European.' means.

 

[YmaOHyd]

Now I kind of want to try and write the most butch story and the most femme story I can, and see how far I can push the gender stereotype meter

I think it's counting keywords. My contemporary stories all show as feminine; my sci-fi stuff shows as masculine.

 

[BeechLeaf]

Oh, there was another of those things that gave answers 'You write like X.' I dropped a story of mine in and apparently I write like Stephen King. WTF? I prowled through it - oh, here's a joking mention of wolves. Changed that to wombats. Nope, still write like Stephen King. Stared at it. Oh, here's the word 'knives'. Changed that to 'knickers'. Bingo, now I write like J.K. Rowling. (I didn't investigate that further.)

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

Oh, there was another of those things that gave answers 'You write like X.' I dropped a story of mine in and apparently I write like Stephen King. WTF? I prowled through it - oh, here's a joking mention of wolves. Changed that to wombats. Nope, still write like Stephen King. Stared at it. Oh, here's the word 'knives'. Changed that to 'knickers'. Bingo, now I write like J.K. Rowling. (I didn't investigate that further.)

I dropped a few of mine in IWL and got a few Kurt Vonnegut's, a couple of Oscar Wilde's, one or two Jack London's, and an Arthur C. Clarke. I wish...

EDIT: Yes, I am extremely bored and don't feel like writing...

 

[YmaOHyd]

Here's one that claims to be 60-70% accurate... https://www.hackerfactor.com/GenderGuesser.php

That tool thinks I'm either a female novelist or a male blog commenter.

 

[PennyThompson]

That tool thinks I'm either a female novelist or a male blog commenter.

ahh yes, the Two Genders

 

[Britva415]

It sure does. If you put something in an AI check and make grammatical errors, the likelihood of it being "AI" is reduce significantly.

This sounds like something you think should be true, but don't have evidence that it is.

Do you?

 

[kokomoe1]

This sounds like something you think should be true, but don't have evidence that it is.

Do you?

That is how all AI checkers operate, you can test them out yourselves

 

[onehitwanda]

That is how all AI checkers operate, you can test them out yourselves

"You haven't met my girlfriend, she goes to another school."