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That tool thinks I'm either a female novelist or a male blog commenter.
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That tool thinks I'm either a female novelist or a male blog commenter.
For the most middle-class of gender-reveal parties.ahh yes, the Two Genders
I fed it over twenty thousand words from multiple stories. I got the weak female (weak emphasis could indicate European), and considering that I was giving it BDSM Haremlit, that seems wildly inaccurate. Pretty sure that no human eyesballs would mistake those words to have been written by anything other than a man.Here's one that claims to be 60-70% accurate... https://www.hackerfactor.com/GenderGuesser.php
When I first started publishing here, I had a series of stories from the male POV, about his relationship with the Goddess of Love and all the kinky sex they had. Despite writing heterosexual male-voiced stories, I got several DMs from male posters who clearly thought I was female.I fed it over twenty thousand words from multiple stories. I got the weak female (weak emphasis could indicate European), and considering that I was giving it BDSM Haremlit, that seems wildly inaccurate. Pretty sure that no human eyesballs would mistake those words to have been written by anything other than a man.
Don't alter your work. Re-submit the next chapter for publishing, and put a statement in the Notes field on the publishing form saying they hit you with a false positive for AI and asking for a real live person to do the review and approval.So I've been a fan of Literotica for some time, but just tried my hand at being an author. I have a story that I have been working on for almost a year. Drafting, reworking, going back and making changes for continuity, etc., etc. During that process I did use Copilot to check for spelling, punctuation, and grammar errors. And I did accept it's suggested changes. This was over a long period of time and across multiple chapters.
When I submitted my first chapter, it was rejected for AI. I was a little shocked because the plot, characters, dialogue, etc. was all mine. But I read the AI FAQ and figured "Ok, well, I did let Copilot change some words and even some sentence structure, so fair enough". Went back through the chapter and made some tweaks and it was accepted and published. YAY!
I went through the entire story again from start to finish and tried to make sure that everything there was my authentic voice. Probably didn't get every single possible instance where Copilot had assisted, but felt pretty good about it. Submitted Chapter 2. AI rejected. Went back and tried a few more tweaks and added a note. Pending. Pending. Pending.
I thought "maybe if I submit a couple more chapters, they'll see my style". Pending. Pending. Pending.
I ran a couple of chapters through some of the free AI-detection tools. Widely varying results with some saying 100% AI and others saying 100% human. Noted some commonalities in AI-flagged text. Much of it seemed to just be my writing style. I like a good metaphor, messing with sentence structure, and a little bit of alliteration. Particular words seemed to be a trigger. I tend to overuse "muttered", apparently. There was a whole other serious issue with the dialogue of one of my characters who speaks very technically. Her dialogue was getting flagged fairly consistently.
This morning I checked and all chapters Ai-rejected.
I'm not sure what to do next. I can go in and make some more tweaks but some of the issues the AI-detector test revealed can't be addressed (like being authentic to my character). I haven't seen anywhere in this thread HOW one appeals or contacts someone to ask them to take a real-person look at the submissions. So am I just done and should probably withdraw the opening chapter and just call it quits?
Thanks.
Have you read some of the submissions on here recently ? I have pulled out of about twenty stories in the past week because they are almost unreadible, the sentances dont even make sense, and its clear that for some English is a new concept to them !If your fiction writing is mistaken for AI slop, that might be a sign that your style isn't suited to fiction writing. People have had their stories rejected for "not the style we're looking for" forever, here and by trad publishing houses. If Lit decides your story isn't up to the site's standards, it's their right not to publish it.
Fiction writing is a skill. Not everyone possesses it. But if you want to be a fiction writer, it's a skill you need to master. Just being able to kick a ball around doesn't make you a footballer. Having a paintbrush and a canvas doesn't make you a painter. Being able to type words into a word processor doesn't make you a writer.
The good thing about Lit is that the standards are very basic, and writers have every opportunity to improve. There are plenty of discussions in the AH about writing skills. Anyone can learn the bare minimum to get a story published, as long as they're willing to put in a bit of effort to be able to call themselves a writer.
I have been a reader on this site for years, and finally decided to dip my toe into the water and submit the book I am working on. Currently at around 14 chapters.I spent a month working on a new story and I'm really proud of it. I was so excited to post it, but it was rejected for AI. I resubmitted with a note explaining that I didn't use AI (only the basic spellcheck in MS Word), but it is still rejected. What's the next step?
Since Literotica doesn't actually give any explanation about what it thinks is AI, I have no idea what part of the story needs to be rewritten. I put the story in two free online AI detection tools and neither one flagged anything.
So I'm essentially stuck. Did I just waste all that time writing a story that I can't even post? What am I supposed to do?
The problem here is that when people write well it looks like AI, because there are no mistakes, and adding mistakes is not the answer. Is it ?
No. One must never use that. Ever. For any purpose.We should be able to share our work, even if its written by AI I suppose,
"And for those of you that say you have no problems, that may be more to do with your work being below par, than we are doing something wrong, because I can see the quality of work has started to drop over the past four months."
It makes mistakes, but they tend to be logical ones, it gets confused when the number of characters increases, or the plot gets complicated, or the story gets too long. But in general it writes with perfect grammar, no spelling mistakes, and generally good story structure.No, that isn't the problem. You're wrong, AI makes mistakes, and the mistakes aren't why it, or something that resembles it, gets rejected.
Yep so I look Human and not AI...apparently we have to do that to our work now.. hoorayNo. One must never use that. Ever. For any purpose.
By the way, when I quote your posts here, they are lit up with red squiggly underlines denoting spelling errors.

No. One must never use that. Ever. For any purpose.
By the way, when I quote your posts here, they are lit up with red squiggly underlines denoting spelling errors.
It makes mistakes, but they tend to be logical ones, it gets confused when the number of characters increases, or the plot gets complicated, or the story gets too long. But in general it writes with perfect grammar, no spelling mistakes, and generally good story structure.
But as someone has pointed out on an earlier post if you write something that is complicated and technical, such as a scientist describing a process, then this will be triggered as AI, rather than a human who has done some homework, and scripted character specific prose accurately.
But not everyone has that problem do they.
If you want to delve into significantly enhancing leverage, consider a longer prybar.AI often overuses certain words, such as “tapestry,” “delve,” “leverage,” “testament,” “significant,” and “enhance”. AI often repeats certain phrases or sentence structures because they are common in its training data.
If you want to delve into significantly enhancing leverage, consider a longer prybar.
Yes, a good example of someone using someone else's words. However none of this really helps people get work submitted. The crux of the problem is that I have so far 14 chapters, each chapter over 20 something pages long, all my own words, ideas, and typed myself, no error checking, no tools, not even grammerly telling me my spelling or grammar is bad. It's not even done by accident, as I don't have it installed, nor is co-pilot turned on. put every submission comes up as AI written...which it is not, it is 100% human written, edited and checked.One key to machine writing is Perplexity, how predictable is the writing is. If it is very predictable, the detector’s say it’s AI. Another, Burstiness, how often does the pace and rhythm of the writing change? AI-generated text often has low burstiness, featuring a monotonous, consistent, or uniform sentence structure.
AI often overuses certain words, such as “tapestry,” “delve,” “leverage,” “testament,” “significant,” and “enhance”. AI often repeats certain phrases or sentence structures because they are common in its training data.
Yes, AI can produce perfect grammatical text, which can sometimes feel artificial because it lacks the natural errors, idioms, and varied, imperfect sentence structure often found in human writing. However, Novel Factory and Sudowrite can produce imperfect grammar. But that perfection alone will not get a rejection. Though almost every human writer slips, on tense, now and again, when writing.
Other factors influence decisions on whether it is or isn’t it AI influenced.
Yes, a good example of someone using someone else's words. However none of this really helps people get work submitted. The crux of the problem is that I have so far 14 chapters, each chapter over 20 something pages long, all my own words, ideas, and typed myself, no error checking, no tools, not even grammerly telling me my spelling or grammar is bad. It's not even done by accident, as I don't have it installed, nor is co-pilot turned on. put every submission comes up as AI written...which it is not, it is 100% human written, edited and checked.
I as a human should not have to change the way I write so I don't get mistaken for a machine. And why can't I just be taken at my word that this is what I wrote. What does it gain me to lie about the source. There is no money in this, no recognition, it's just fun stories to amuse others..all this talk is ridiculous and a complete waste of time. I will just post the stories somewhere else. No loss to me.
Thanks, I will give that a try. Appreciate the practical advice.Don't alter your work. Re-submit the next chapter for publishing, and put a statement in the Notes field on the publishing form saying they hit you with a false positive for AI and asking for a real live person to do the review and approval.
Assuming your stories were trad published, I bet you went through several rejections before they were accepted. At least that's the normal process. Terry Brooks and JK Rowling are two authors I know off the top of my head who shopped their works around for years before getting their lucky break.So a bit about me, I am a professional writer, I have two published books, and articles in countless journals and magazines.
I'm starting to become very tired of all these posters who claim that the only reason their stories trigger an AI warning is that they're "too good", and that everyone else's work must be bad. It hints at a complete lack of understanding of what writing is. If your writing resembles AI slop, you should make it *better*, not worse.And for those of you that say you have no problems, that may be more to do with your work being below par, than we are doing something wrong, because I can see the quality of work has started to drop over the past four months.
We should be able to share our work, even if its written by AI I suppose, as long as it meets the rules. Otherwise whats the point of this site.
How would you even prompt this? "ChatGPT, write a rant for me about my story being rejected as AI. Make me sound really angry, emphasise that I never use any writing tools, and make it apparent that I feel very strongly about this. Not strongly enough to actually write this post myself, mind, but very strongly."I wrote this note with AI, but put in my own mistakes so it would pass bull filter.