Str8 males and bi sex

homunculus said:
Damn. I'd love to watch that.

So would I.
Did you make them come? Did they return the favor
a few times and yes, they returned the favor. Women love watching guys fool around much like guys enjoy watching women get busy.
 
PinkOrchid said:
Damn. I'd love to watch that.

There isn't much you WON'T watch is there! You're more of a voyeur than I am, Orchid!

Not that I'm complaining either...;)
 
Well, Fluffer, to think of what's going on in the big world that I don't know about. The thought of you sitting on a couch with your hand inching up your skirt while I sat behind a guy, my cock up against his ass, grabbed him from behind and stroked him (the better for you to watch, my dear)...

But are you alluding to an orgy (woman watches two men, then jumps in), or a woman invited simply to watch?

And you, sir, what friends you have!

But that seems so complicated. I like the idea of some crowded restaurant, a gay hangout perhaps, needing to share a table, and starting a conversation over a book (there is a South American book called Lulu, or The Loves of Lulu, that a woman who enjoys watching men), and feeling that elecric touch on my thigh...
 
Hope I didn't cross a line with that lost post. If so, my apologies.
Anyway, a question, or what is forming as a question. Any thoughts on toys as an extension of bi experience, or as a prelude? Like pot, does a vibrator or a butt plug lead to harder stuff? strap on play being one example of the latter...
 
homunculus said:
Like pot, does a vibrator or a butt plug lead to harder stuff? strap on play being one example of the latter...
it depends on the person. Some men enjoy being dominated by a woman with a strap-on. Some guys think thats effeminate.
 
Is the dynamic necessarily about power? Or is it about displacement? The strap looks like a cock...Of course, to me it seems that this is the best of both worlds; my partner is herself, and while she has the strap on she is a somewhat different, or changed self, just as pretty and alluring, but now with this new dimension...Have yet to have her penetrate me anally, but I suppose, to get back to what you were saying, this does seem to require suspending or working with some powerful social conditioning...
 
role playing is about power. I think there is nothing kinkier than a woman pretending to be a man, taking control of her bitch.
Men are taught to always be in control but damn, when it comes to sex, that gets boring.
 
krspy2001 said:
i love the idea of being the sub....and i am in a way.....right mistress?
"in a way'? You are my sub ... I hope you never forget it....:kiss: :kiss: :rose:
 
De Sade said:
role playing is about power. I think there is nothing kinkier than a woman pretending to be a man, taking control of her bitch.
Men are taught to always be in control but damn, when it comes to sex, that gets boring.
I love the way you put that!:kiss: :rose:
 
Power games...is anal sex always rape, then? man to woman, and is the woman with a strap on getting even? or is it that the anus is a site of pleasure for both genders, and if we can overcome our conditioning about 'dirtiness' in that part of the body then we can give and receive pleasure there.
Same with bi curiosity and pleasure. If a man and a woman watch an adult movie together and the man finds the phallus on the screen sexy, is he free to say so, and maybe to fantasize with his lover about that? And what would the fantasy be?
 
MistressRain said:
I love the way you put that!:kiss: :rose:
I love the way you talk dirty. :rose: :devil:

homunculus, no, anal is not (usually) about rape. Its about pleasure.
For some people, that is a highly eroginous zone and they orgasm stronger that way. I like to explore that orifice along w/ others. We have been conditioned into thinking its a dirty place because of how we use it but think about how we use our vaginas and cocks.
 
"homunculus, no, anal is not (usually) about rape. Its about pleasure. "

That's more like it--pleasure. So, it's not about threats, or coercion, or pain...it's about pleasure. The immediate emphasis, with a strap on or anal sex generally, on power, always makes me feel that I'm not getting something. When I see that picture of, who is it, Fluffer, a kind of odalisque in black and white, looking back, or your Bettie icon, I don't think, I just react with pleasure. Talk of bitch this or that--it's like disrupting sex with golf, or football...Get the pads out of the way, I want to see her breasts...

But, to contradict myself, I did see the movie "Secretary," and found it extremely sexy.

another question--my main bi exps. were mutal masturbation and sucking games as a thirteen year old...wonder if girls do that, seems not so unusual among boys, wh gives the lie, it would seem, to the idea that bi exp. is natural to women and uncommon among men...
 
homunculus said:


another question--my main bi exps. were mutal masturbation and sucking games as a thirteen year old...wonder if girls do that, seems not so unusual among boys, wh gives the lie, it would seem, to the idea that bi exp. is natural to women and uncommon among men...
everyone experiments and if they say they dont, I feel sorry for them. Most people start at the age of 13.
Girls on girls is more socially acceptable than guys on guys. Why? Society sees women as soft and sensual, guys are seen as hairy and brutal. Few want to see that (or will admit to liking it).
 
I don't think either same gender youthful experience is 'socially acceptable' or that one is more so than the other...Perhaps the greater sense of taboo around male-male encounters has to do with the greater frequency of male homosexuals in the popn. vs. lesbians, and from this, via a circuitous route, the idea that being gay is something that boys can catch...Re hair, note how threatening pubic hair in women seems to be--so often shaved off, much to my dismay. Oh for unshaved armpits and a hairy mons veneris--too shocking even for most porn.
 
Lately I've had more luck with men than with women. What does that say about me? :confused:
 
"Lately I've had more luck with men than with women. What does that say about me?"

Various possibilities suggest themselves:
you're gay
you're more attractive to men than to women
you're more confident in male-male encounters, wh probably are quick encounters, than in male-female encounters, which more often than not require gettting to know the woman, sharing, courtship and so forth
more likely, you haven't revealed something that would make sense of it..
Anyway, the gay possibility is the more interesting, isn't it, since many people believe that bi sexuality is extremely rare, and that having sex with men often indicates...well, you can figure out the rest. Does seem to be the unacknowledged question here.
 
i am such a chicken....i was supposed to meet my friend today for anal and i backed out........i had all intentions of doing it today and here i sit wishing i had .....i did this before i gave him a bj/hand job....i finally did it....i just need to get some guts here
 
What was your fear? what was your fantasy? Maybe you could write out both quickly as scenarios and see where they take you.
For example, what would it take to persuade you to go through with it?
 
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