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[Oldermom935]

We have 33? high efficiency Marvin Integrity double hung and some fixed pane (angled windows on large wall). This was a few years back now, but the cost of those windows including the 6 very large custom angled windows was $17K. Anderson was closer to 40K for similar. The Marvin's have a fiberglass exterior, and wood interior, which aesthetically is nice. Matching white outside, and wood inside really was a nice touch. As far as I'm concerned it turned out to be a superior window at half the money.

Having had experience with both now, I'd suggest at least looking at the Marvin options. At 9 years in I've had zero issues with these windows. We'll see in 30 years how I feel, but I'm pretty sure the fiberglass will hold up well. 30 years old Anderson that I have are rotting...

They really do a good job of holding heat back, too. At first I was concerned about seeing condensation on the outside glass in the spring and fall. But then I realized heat loss is so low, they condensed the same moisture as a cold car sitting outside. I had never seen any of my other windows do that before.

Anyway, probably at least worth a look.

Marvin quoted me forty thousand so that's gonna be out of the ballpark.What's nice?Is these are retro windows?So the frame stays you just do the side tracking and the windows themselves.The windows in there now are single pain.Two hundred series, their thirty nine years old.So when I popped them out reinsulate, caulk, the sides and the windows slide in takes twenty to twenty five minutes to replace the windows. If I had a go with marvin full frame, that means ripping out all the frames and everything. But I understand what you're talking about.
The thirty nine year old andersons are still in good shape.No rotting. I've taken out the existing windows already to replace the.Retention springs in the top header. So with this, it's just screws caulking and popping them in.

 

[Wonderer67]

Technical question mister wat. I have 23 windows in my house.
Anderson Narroline 200 Series. I'm replacing all twenty three twenty two of them are double hung.One is a casement window. Anderson has a conversion kit for 400 series tilt and wash dual pane windows and full screens. I'm going to be installing them myself. Is $13,000.00 a good price? I had renewal by anderson come, and they gave me a price of $83,000.00 but if I signed that day, they would drop it by $28,000.00

That last sentence is the huge red flag.

83k but down to 28k if you sign that day….

Yeah OK. So they could do 2/3 off by paying them right then and there?????

 

[Oldermom935]

That last sentence is the huge red flag.

83k but down to 28k if you sign that day….

Yeah OK. So they could do 2/3 off by paying them right then and there?????

Needless to say, I threw the guy out of the house. When I went to order the windows from anderson, it turns out that renewal by anderson isn't the same company.Renewal has their own window that anderson manufactures for them.

 

[Oldermom935]

Night all

Night hun, pleasant dreams.

 

[Wonderer67]

Needless to say, I threw the guy out of the house. When I went to water the windows from anderson, it turns out that renewal by anderson isn't the same company.Renewal has their own window that anderson manufactures for them.

You shoulda thrown him out and put a boot up his ass!

Knowing you, you probably did!

 

[likes2watchU]

That last sentence is the huge red flag.

83k but down to 28k if you sign that day….

Yeah OK. So they could do 2/3 off by paying them right then and there?????

They have a rep for aggressive sales... but that's also Red Flag #1 for "How to Identify a Scammer".

They have a good rep for their products, varies on their customer service, and pricing tends to be 3-5x higher than the competition.

Full disclosure: I've not yet replaced my windows... but have decided 100% not to have the handyman do that job.

 

[likes2watchU]

Needless to say, I threw the guy out of the house. When I went to order the windows from anderson, it turns out that renewal by anderson isn't the same company.Renewal has their own window that anderson manufactures for them.

That may explain the mixed reviews online.
My guess?
Renewal is scammy
Andersen is not - still may be pricey but not scammy??
The games people will play to make an extra buck

 

[Lilianna23]

Sorry for your loss. Never easy

Thank you.

 

[Lilianna23]

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Truth!

 

[Lilianna23]

. Sorry

Thank you, T!

 

[Lilianna23]

I look forward to meeting him. It'll like as not be therapeutic for the both of us.

I think so!

 

[Lilianna23]

Allah only knows whatever else you insist on be nekkid under dah sheetz.

Only everything!

 

[Lilianna23]

That explains the smile.

Yep. I never felt more free than when I reached my 60s!

 

[Lilianna23]

Wat is circling . . . like a bird of prey.

Buy. It!

 

[Lilianna23]

I know. Wat is pondering.


So many things to consider, all of which are white girl problems.

Are you trying to decide which one? Or which one you'll buy first?

 

[Lilianna23]

You know people. Ask them who they allow to screw the . . . I mean, fix their cars.


It's not like they'll make you wear socks to bed.


Although, if it's very cold, there's something about well-made Merino wool socks.

I can ask around.

Merino wool sock are wonderful worn with shoes and boots. Not to bed!

 

[Lilianna23]

Up. Last night was a stay at the Scrotel13 because Wat messed up booking the landlady and her place. Anyway. There will be a bit of time on the job today and then a trip to the office for the mandatory Xmas "party." Oh, and a summons to see the company accounts manager. I can hardly wait for that. And the extra two hours on the road, which will probably be three.


That little car is in RI, and I keep wonderin' which is gonna be the gooderer root to drive from home to there. And there is that body in DE what needs to get scarfed up, too. One damned thing after another . . . .

You're home now and it's the weekend. I hope you get some time for relaxation.

 

[Lilianna23]

Highway robbery from aaa… Literally.

Altho in this day and age… it maybe ain’t such a bad deal depending on the car.

Maybe. No one will touch my car to replace the battery because I have a hybrid. The starter battery is under the back seat. One gets to it through the cargo area. I had to take it to the dealership to get the battery replaced. It cost me damn near what AAA charged!

 

[Lilianna23]

I saw how bad it is in WA state…

It wasn't raining when I woke up and only sprinkled throughout the day. I was out for a short while, staying on the plateau where I live. Still, there was standing water all over on the roads.

 

[Lilianna23]

Oh yeah

K and I can make you a cozy spot in between us!

 

[Lilianna23]

No but did from the dealership. It’s the same robbery as far as I’m concerned!

True!

 

[Lilianna23]

I’m sorry you folks are getting the atmospheric river. I saw some video of roads washed away. I’m glad you’re safe.

About 930 am - that’s a late appointment by this early morning person.

I gained several pounds just looking at your pictures of baked goodies. Yum.

I found a recipe for ginger molasses bars. I have to make them

Yes. It's really bad. Some rivers haven't even created yet.

The lake is full. It's a good storage spot but can only receive from one river. I'm really glad I live on a hill; I'm safe here. I feel bad for those lower and nearer the rivers.

Let us know how your bars turn out!

 

[Lilianna23]

Good morning Wat, Wonderer and Sub.

Today is decoration of tiny Christmas tree by my granddaughter! My companion in life (CIL) will assist. It will be a happy time.

This is last day before the deep freeze!

Did you guys all have fun? ️

 

[nipplecaresser]

K and I can make you a cozy spot in between us!

 

[Lilianna23]

Cant do it

I didn't think I would be able to, but it really made a huge difference for me. And it keeps me from splashing water all over the sink area like a rabid raccoon!