The future is dense, walkable cities.

The trend toward greater urbanization in the US is pretty constant, hovering around +1% per year on average for the last sixty years. The cities are slowly but steadily winning as people attractors.

Here's some statistics:

https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/USA/united-states/urban-population
That's funny really. Here in Tennessee I speak to people moving here to rural areas here to escape cities like Chicago, New York, and yes, even that paradise LA.
 
That's funny really. Here in Tennessee I speak to people moving here to rural areas here to escape cities like Chicago, New York, and yes, even that paradise LA.

Well, we can look at the data from 270 million Americans or we can go with the anecdotal evidence of you and your rural neighbors.

Which is more convincing?
 
Be advised the Netherlands are in Europe or your panties. Not in the United States. :D

So you’re ignoring the US example I provided above that?

The Netherlands are a good example of a place that once was car-oriented and made choices to change that.
 
Does not suburbia pay the taxes that foot the bill for their infrastructure and is not the anxiety of the urban areas that they cannot afford their infrastructure because nobody wants to live there thanks to their political infrastructure which is geared towards the votes of hands out for handouts and the ever increasing taxation required to purchase that voting loyalty? I mean, most of the big urban areas are solidly Blue and it is the American Left that assures us that they have all the answers (and all they need is all the money to go along with and provide the answers).

After pushing out the people who would have paid taxes by looting them to fund pipe dreams, the reaction is, "Wait! We're the great city! We built this place! THEY need to pay for it. Call the tribute gratitude and consider us a charity that does good works for those they left us with..."
 
*chuckle*

Our cities need to be reordered to be more like our European cousins long past where the poor had to go live outside of the castle walls...

... they can come in from time to time for labor or to spend the money of that labor at our fairs.

Bread and circuses, they things empires are built upon.

Empires are forever.


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How to say you've never study history, without using those words.

Of course they lived outside the walls, it's pretty hard to build a fortified defensive building if you have to built walls around and defend hundreds of acres....
 
And the cities are profit centers?

Nobody is in hock here when it comes to governance. Maybe in your neighborhood (or mind)...
 
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How to say you've never study history, without using those words.

Of course they lived outside the walls, it's pretty hard to build a fortified defensive building if you have to built walls around and defend hundreds of acres....
Comprehension is your weak suit. Stop attempting it and just go back to frothing and foaming at the mouth.
 
We have bike lanes on almost all of our streets. They are mostly deserted and even more so when it rains or gets cold.
Are they protected bike lanes or just paint? Unless there are physical barriers to prevent drivers from swerving into them, they’re dangerous and should be avoided.
 
Are they protected bike lanes or just paint? Unless there are physical barriers to prevent drivers from swerving into them, they’re dangerous and should be avoided.
And asshole bike riders that believe they have the right to ride 3 abreast in traffic lanes designed for cars to drive 55 mph isn't a hazard...
 
And asshole bike riders that believe they have the right to ride 3 abreast in traffic lanes designed for cars to drive 55 mph isn't a hazard...
No urban road should be designed for cars to travel 55mph. Driving that fast should be confined to controlled-access highways.
 
You live in your own little word don't you?

I live in California. Regardless of any incoming migration, regardless of any accusations of democratic mismanagement of the cities or rural areas, CA still out performs the rest of the states. Facts are more stubborn than right wing rhetoric.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/kathar...-contributing-the-most-to-us-gdp-infographic/

“Diving deeper, California is way ahead of other states when comparing contributions to U.S. GDP with population size. While 11.7% of Americans live in California per the latest Census data, the state contributed 14.2% to U.S. GDP in Q1 of 2023.”
 
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You live in your own little word don't you?
I live next to several streets with 3 lanes of traffic in both directions. Pedestrians have been killed by careless drivers while crossing them. The speed limit is 45, but people regularly ignore it because the streets were designed for driving faster.
 
I live next to several streets with 3 lanes of traffic in both directions. Pedestrians have been killed by careless drivers while crossing them. The speed limit is 45, but people regularly ignore it because the streets were designed for driving faster.
We can agree that pedestrians have the right of way, especially in traffic signal/walk signal roadways. But, and it is a huge BUT, that does not resolve the pedestrian of any responsibility for their own safety. Even with a walk indicator I look both ways, often twice before I head out across the street. There is no accounting for the actions of others that are distracted, drunk, high, homicidal, or whatever. Honestly a healthy mistrust of most people you encounter is a good survival technique, especially on the road.
 
I live in California. Regardless of any incoming migration, regardless of any accusations of democratic mismanagement of the cities or rural areas, CA still out performs the rest of the states. Facts are more stubborn than right wing rhetoric.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/kathar...-contributing-the-most-to-us-gdp-infographic/

“Diving deeper, California is way ahead of other states when comparing contributions to U.S. GDP with population size. While 11.7% of Americans live in California per the latest Census data, the state contributed 14.2% to U.S. GDP in Q1 of 2023.”
I honestly don't care about California at all. I've been there and feel no need to ever return. In fact if there was a national call for people to bring chain saws to cut California loose and push it out to sea I'd be on the way. (Just so you don't think I'm serious about the chain saw comment it is a reference to a Bugs Bunny cartoon.)
 
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