The Let's Help Each other Get Healthier Thread!!!

[graceanne]

i fell at camp and slammed both my knees hard into the concrete... putting a hold on my excersizing for the next few days while i am swollen and wearing an ace bandage on one knee and scaped up and red on the other knee.

Yikes. You are having the worst luck! *hugs*

I'm back on. I haven't checked my calories, but I ate lunch and dinner today.

 

[somberReality]

Gahhhhhhhhh I need to lose weight but i just don't have the drive.....helppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp

 

[neonflux]

i fell at camp and slammed both my knees hard into the concrete... putting a hold on my excersizing for the next few days while i am swollen and wearing an ace bandage on one knee and scaped up and red on the other knee.

YIKES!!!

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(for your poor knee!)

Neon

 

[neonflux]

Gahhhhhhhhh I need to lose weight but i just don't have the drive.....helppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp

Welcome to the thread. When you're ready, you'll do it and we'll be here to support you!!! Neon

 

[myinnerslut]

thanks gracie and neon. to top off my luck, A and i got into an argument this evening, which is now resolved, but i am a little emotionally worse for wear. but i had pretzels instead of ice cream again and salad with lunch so at least i dont have to do push ups on top of everything else.

 

[neonflux]

thanks gracie and neon. to top off my luck, A and i got into an argument this evening, which is now resolved, but i am a little emotionally worse for wear. but i had pretzels instead of ice cream again and salad with lunch so at least i dont have to do push ups on top of everything else.

You go grrl!

 

[myinnerslut]

you know what... i think i may do some push ups anyway, just for the hell of it. and to prove to myself i can. and to feel control over some aspect of my life. doing a push up or five to feel control sure beats throwing up after i eat anything. and with push ups i dont have to bend my knees, whereas with sit ups i do

 

[brioche]

you know what... i think i may do some push ups anyway, just for the hell of it. and to prove to myself i can. and to feel control over some aspect of my life. doing a push up or five to feel control sure beats throwing up after i eat anything. and with push ups i dont have to bend my knees, whereas with sit ups i do

Please don't say you've been doing that! Have you been doing that? (throwing up)
So, I've been thinking and considering and researching a little even, and I have come to the rather unfortunate conclusion that I an going to have to lower my carbs considerably. We're talking the traditional version of carbs - that being bread - and not my physio's version of carbs, whiuch includes salad and fruit. She confuses me on a regular basis. She seems to have three food groups: Protein:stuff like egg whites and chicken breasts and extra lean ground beef and skim milk products;carbs: fruit and vegetables and MAAAYBE a whole grain bread once every few weeks; and stuff you can't eat, like butter and margarine and dairy and cooking oils and almost all bread and whole eggs and sugars and artificial sweeteners. Oh, and processed foods, desserts, and mixes.
If this works for her, well then, good. But I am not dieting. I am making a lifestyle change, and my lifestyle change does not involve cutting out dairy or never using even olive oil, which is GOOD FOR YOU. I can come to terms with changing to egg whites, I can even give up virtually all sugar, but I'm predisposed to osteporosis because I take corticosteroids and because of the PA too is some roundabout way. Dairy stays.
But I have been researching inflammation, and apparently carbs make it worse. I just realized the other day that while I almost never have a meal without carbs, I routinely have 2 meals or more a day without protein. So I'm thinking of totally changing the way I eat.
I guess what I'm looking at is, "How much do I want it?" I think I want it an awful lot.
What about you?
And gracie and Netz and anyone else who knows, inflammation triggers, and good foods, would be appreciated.

 

[Netzach]

Please don't say you've been doing that! Have you been doing that? (throwing up)
So, I've been thinking and considering and researching a little even, and I have come to the rather unfortunate conclusion that I an going to have to lower my carbs considerably. We're talking the traditional version of carbs - that being bread - and not my physio's version of carbs, whiuch includes salad and fruit. She confuses me on a regular basis. She seems to have three food groups: Protein:stuff like egg whites and chicken breasts and extra lean ground beef and skim milk products;carbs: fruit and vegetables and MAAAYBE a whole grain bread once every few weeks; and stuff you can't eat, like butter and margarine and dairy and cooking oils and almost all bread and whole eggs and sugars and artificial sweeteners. Oh, and processed foods, desserts, and mixes.
If this works for her, well then, good. But I am not dieting. I am making a lifestyle change, and my lifestyle change does not involve cutting out dairy or never using even olive oil, which is GOOD FOR YOU. I can come to terms with changing to egg whites, I can even give up virtually all sugar, but I'm predisposed to osteporosis because I take corticosteroids and because of the PA too is some roundabout way. Dairy stays.
But I have been researching inflammation, and apparently carbs make it worse. I just realized the other day that while I almost never have a meal without carbs, I routinely have 2 meals or more a day without protein. So I'm thinking of totally changing the way I eat.
I guess what I'm looking at is, "How much do I want it?" I think I want it an awful lot.
What about you?
And gracie and Netz and anyone else who knows, inflammation triggers, and good foods, would be appreciated.

Honestly?
You aren't going to like what I have to say. Definitely mentally switch bread, rice, anything starchy with the green stuff. If you want it badly enough to do this, I will tell you that I lost 30 pounds. Had I not ignored the totally addictive nature of sugar, I would not be struggling back into it again. I just can't go there at all.

The person I trust about navigating the health maze told me to go on specific carbohydrate. I thought these people sounded crazy, but the person who told me they are not is someone I respect and someone who regularly patches up people conventional medicine has messed up badly.

The book/website is breaking the vicious cycle. Try not to get really annoyed by the fanatic and annoying delivery of the information. It's one time in my life where taking a deep breath, accepting the dogma, and ignoring how much my fellow travelers annoyed me helped.

Your nutritional info is spot on. I found that inflammation for me was helped greatly by a total elimination of grain and sugar for about a year. The trick is not reintroducing those things as enthusiastically as I've been doing, but humans are humans. There are options for making breadlike things out of nut flours and eggs dairy (yogurt and butter and cheese only) are not as demonized in the program I followed - lots of eggs and dairy in it. Foods do interact, and when you are not doing grains and sugars that linger on as fat, you will find that you metabolize fats and proteins VERY differently.

If you're not willing to go this route for a while at least avoid corn anything if you're not. Avoid it like the devil, for inflammation. Try ditching wheat altogether and if you must do grain, white rice is cleanest. White long-cooking rice, 2 servings like, a week, not often.

But your impulse to switch non veggie/fruit carbs and protein is spot on. And make sure you eat often. breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, dinner, snack. And snack within 1 hour of workouts.

 

[graceanne]

I gotta second the corn thing. Corn sucks for inflamation. FYI - MSG is a corn product. So's corn syrup, which is in most processed sweets, especially pop. Frankly cutting MSG is a huge life change in itself. It means that you have to make almost all your foods from scratch, because the majority of processed foods have MSG. Exceptions would be. . . Campbells soups have a healthy choice line that has no MSG. Um . . . you just gotta read labels. Oh, and in case you don't know MSG is short for monosodiumglutamate, which is how they'll put it in the label, to confuse you.

Beyond that, I should avoid all grains. Gluten makes my diarrhea worse. *shrugs* I'm not so great about avoiding it, but I know I should. lol Processed sugar, in large amounts, gives me canker sores, so I know that it's bad for me. Dairy just makes me gassy, other than that it's not an issue. And I, also, am at high risk for osteoperosis, so I'm only willing to cut so much.

Good luck.

 

[brioche]

Thanks for confirming some of the stuff that is floating around in my head...I'm about to try going off bread, it's going to be hard. My body reacted to my going off sugar by craving white carbs, which are really only one step up...so it's going to be tough. Netz, I ordered that book, thanks for the tip. I looked at some books earlier, but it's hard to know which ones are good and which ones are just jumping on the inflammation bandwagon, as it's the latest bad guy. Interestingly, looking at the note from the physio, she says I can have rice pasta - maybe she's not quite so far off as I thought. I'm also going to drastically reduce my butter, so one way or another my weight should go down!

 

[myinnerslut]

today was a really crappy day. i binged on m+ms

 

[Netzach]

Thanks for confirming some of the stuff that is floating around in my head...I'm about to try going off bread, it's going to be hard. My body reacted to my going off sugar by craving white carbs, which are really only one step up...so it's going to be tough. Netz, I ordered that book, thanks for the tip. I looked at some books earlier, but it's hard to know which ones are good and which ones are just jumping on the inflammation bandwagon, as it's the latest bad guy. Interestingly, looking at the note from the physio, she says I can have rice pasta - maybe she's not quite so far off as I thought. I'm also going to drastically reduce my butter, so one way or another my weight should go down!

My most favorite website ever is Raman Prasad's. I still need to get his book. I can still have Indian Food! He also writes a mean mean blog entry about the drug pushing nature of conventional MD's. I'm not flushing my meds, but it IS interesting to know all the competing interests at play when you're put on a med. Autoimmune is big dollars.

 

[graceanne]

Thanks for confirming some of the stuff that is floating around in my head...I'm about to try going off bread, it's going to be hard. My body reacted to my going off sugar by craving white carbs, which are really only one step up...so it's going to be tough. Netz, I ordered that book, thanks for the tip. I looked at some books earlier, but it's hard to know which ones are good and which ones are just jumping on the inflammation bandwagon, as it's the latest bad guy. Interestingly, looking at the note from the physio, she says I can have rice pasta - maybe she's not quite so far off as I thought. I'm also going to drastically reduce my butter, so one way or another my weight should go down!

I read, somewhere, that if you can make it two weeks the cravings will go away. I don't know if that's true, since if I cut carbs out of my diet I wouldn't eat anything, since proteins and fats make me sick.

 

[FurryFury]

Reading about all these things doctors have said and done to people got me thinking.

Once upon a time, I went to the doctor. I'd found that in the Spring I felt totally without energy. It scared me a lot since I had a crap load to do all the time and knew with Summer coming up, I'd have so much more.

This doctor freak told me that I had some sort of yeast syndrome. The way to fix the problem was to go off birth control pills. (Which was absolutely NOT going to happen.)

Put some "remedy" in all of my orifices. (Also wasn't going to happen.)

And start eating meat. (Riiiight)

That was the last time I saw him.

What I actually did do on my own, was start taking certain supplements when I felt I needed them, drinking Gatorade and exercising more despite feeling too tired to deal with any exercise at all. It worked for me well enough that I could do what I needed to do in life.

Now, just recently, I realized, I've not had that Spring problem in many, many years!

I could/would never cut carbs from my diet. It's the main food group that makes me even want to eat at all.

 

[brioche]

Oh Fury I loooove carbs, they're wonderful. But I don't think they're good for me, and I eat them to excess, and i tend to have them with butter. I seem to be addicted, and that means they have to go. Just like someone who has a problem with having one drink, I can't have one slice of bread, so I'm going to have to cut them out. They are also detrimental to my heath in two ways because they are getting in the way of my weight loss.

I sat down and said to myself, "Are you willing to cut out carbs if it means less inflammation, a healthier you, and more weight loss (in that order of importance)?" and my ultimate answer was yes. I knew when I started that I'd have to make some sacrifices and this is one of them. It won't be easy, but I am motivated. I've been replacing the sugars with fruit (berries mostly) and that's been helping...and to be honest I am eating a little bit of sugar. Kind of tapering off. I just don't think I can cut out sugar and carbs cold turkey in one fell swoop otherwise. But it's not as needed as it used to be.

Gracie, when I cut out the fast food for a month, the first week or so, I watched the commercials and thought, "When will this month be over?" But after that I realized I didn't need any of it, which is why I never started back up. Since then I have had one fast food cheeseburger, and it wasn't that good...

I have an appointment with my doctor near the end of the month, and I'll be going over some of this with her. If she vetoes it then I'll have to go back on, but I don't think she will...it's not like I did this rashly.

 

[FurryFury]

I understand and admire you if you feel you should cut them out and are willing to do so.

I also use butter and olive oil as I see appropriate. The studies on butter versus margarine have gone back and forth over which is healthier. Given that, I'd rather use what I like.

Moderation and portion control is important to me though.

I rarely eat fast food. I'd rather in most cases eat sit down full service or not at all. Now and then I crave something for a month or two and then get it.

*chuckles*

 

[Netzach]

Oh Fury I loooove carbs, they're wonderful. But I don't think they're good for me, and I eat them to excess, and i tend to have them with butter. I seem to be addicted, and that means they have to go. Just like someone who has a problem with having one drink, I can't have one slice of bread, so I'm going to have to cut them out. They are also detrimental to my heath in two ways because they are getting in the way of my weight loss.

I sat down and said to myself, "Are you willing to cut out carbs if it means less inflammation, a healthier you, and more weight loss (in that order of importance)?" and my ultimate answer was yes. I knew when I started that I'd have to make some sacrifices and this is one of them. It won't be easy, but I am motivated. I've been replacing the sugars with fruit (berries mostly) and that's been helping...and to be honest I am eating a little bit of sugar. Kind of tapering off. I just don't think I can cut out sugar and carbs cold turkey in one fell swoop otherwise. But it's not as needed as it used to be.

Gracie, when I cut out the fast food for a month, the first week or so, I watched the commercials and thought, "When will this month be over?" But after that I realized I didn't need any of it, which is why I never started back up. Since then I have had one fast food cheeseburger, and it wasn't that good...

I have an appointment with my doctor near the end of the month, and I'll be going over some of this with her. If she vetoes it then I'll have to go back on, but I don't think she will...it's not like I did this rashly.

Oh...

honey honey honey honey honey

My sweet tooth has never subsided. Ever. But honey is OK. I don't overdo it, but thank GOD for bees.

You will reach a very zen point of walking past bakeries and going "eh, whatever." It was about 2 months in for me.

 

[graceanne]

Oh...

honey honey honey honey honey

My sweet tooth has never subsided. Ever. But honey is OK. I don't overdo it, but thank GOD for bees.

You will reach a very zen point of walking past bakeries and going "eh, whatever." It was about 2 months in for me.

Mine hasn't either, but I've never made it more than two days without carbs.

 

[JupitersGirl]

I could/would never cut carbs from my diet. It's the main food group that makes me even want to eat at all.

I think that may be the distinguishing factor, FF. For you, that is the catalyst to eat ... for many of us (me included) that is the trigger, and if it's pulled, it's full on. Count yourself lucky to be in the first group, because carbs can be a wicked adversary ... and NOT in a good way. <grin>

 

[myinnerslut]

this weekend has been hell. ive been eating chocolate and fried stuff... my comfort foods. so basically my healthyness has gotten put on hold while i deal with other issues

 

[ecstaticsub]

I am so hungry right now!! I have decided that I needed to change things up a bit so just for this week I am going to drastically reduce my carbs. I had tried Atkins twice 5 yrs ago or so. I wasn't able to stay on it for more than 3 months because I got so dizzy and I do love bread and pasta. But I have been so tired lately and even with exercising daily I am having trouble losing weight. So I need something different. I'll try veggies, fruits and meat for a week and see how I feel.

oh yeah, another reason I couldn't stay on adkins for very long, I can not stomach meat for breakfast and was getting so tired of eggs.

 

[graceanne]

this weekend has been hell. ive been eating chocolate and fried stuff... my comfort foods. so basically my healthyness has gotten put on hold while i deal with other issues

You're taking care of your emotional health. Don't worry about it. I ate chocolate for two days straight after my sisters boyfriend commit suicide, and K let me.

 

[Netzach]

Well fuck it.

This half-in-half-out thing is NOT working. M is syndrome x - that's pre-diabetic and his mom had diabetes and a host of issues that killed her. I am not going to eat crap and then be in denial about it, or let him do same.

The screws are tightened, the groceries bought. It's on again.

 

[HottieMama]

Hi everyone. Hope everyone is doing well.

Did my biweekly weigh-in this morning. i'm down to 188, which is 18lbs from my first goal.

Other than that, nothing much to report. My eating has been REALLY shitty, and it seems like the more i try to fix it the worse it seems to get. UGH...