The Parking Lot

WickedEve said:
Anyone seen a dangly earring? It's silver and lapis. Maybe it's under a car. Are there cars in this parking lot?

I suppose it's *your* earring.

There were cars but some poets took them to the annual forum poetry slam/demolition derby where they're currently smashing them into one another.
 
WickedEve said:
Anyone seen a dangly earring? It's silver and lapis. Maybe it's under a car. Are there cars in this parking lot?

I found it. It was hooked into the back of my corset. hm. How in the WORLD did it get there?

oh yeah. I remember... (wicked, nostalgic smile) had to do with a toy named "Fred is Red", I believe.

ange, you're right you're right you're right. And offer the spotlight to whomever you want. Right now, if they take it, they a) have me as a rather fierce ally and b) are going in with their eyes WIDE fucking open.

It's all over, except for the lovely playfighting that I hope will continue. In fact, I have about three banana creme pies hidden behind my back right now.

and the writing. I've been wanting to talk to folks about the ideas of offering critique and such, but I think I'll pose my various questions and thoughts over on some other thread, maybe the (gasp) dreaded spotlight thread. Ostensibly I can still get on there and spout bullshit if I want to.

bijou
 
unpredictablebijou said:
I found it. It was hooked into the back of my corset. hm. How in the WORLD did it get there?

oh yeah. I remember... (wicked, nostalgic smile) had to do with a toy named "Fred is Red", I believe.

ange, you're right you're right you're right. And offer the spotlight to whomever you want. Right now, if they take it, they a) have me as a rather fierce ally and b) are going in with their eyes WIDE fucking open.

It's all over, except for the lovely playfighting that I hope will continue. In fact, I have about three banana creme pies hidden behind my back right now.

and the writing. I've been wanting to talk to folks about the ideas of offering critique and such, but I think I'll pose my various questions and thoughts over on some other thread, maybe the (gasp) dreaded spotlight thread. Ostensibly I can still get on there and spout bullshit if I want to.

bijou

Take a look at the poetry discussion circle (the subforum here) if you want to think about critique. We've had it for about 18 months and I don't think it has ever really gotten off the ground. Maybe because other threads here compete with it, who knows?

Any and all suggestions, new threads, artistic undertakings are most welcome. :)

But I think I'll hold off on the spotlight for a bit. Right now it probably has all the appeal of offering someone 18 months in the hoosegow.
 
First Wives Club

I agree with you on so many points here! Thanks for being so honest and posting this for us to read.

At work, at play, on the field, in the courthouse, there is always a new girl always causes a stir. (I will get to the boys later)

I do not necessarily think that they are smarter or more talented... it is a matter of something new to read, different ideas to explore and face it, the boys like to figure out the latest mystery on the block. Once it becomes more routine, things settle down....as they always do.... until the next one comes :)



Oozing talent, of course, yes, wonderful, but I think that in the past as now, sometimes there is so much attention put on the latest talent that perfectly good talent is forgotten or missed. Good work goes unread and underappreciated. I am very guilty of this.

Unfortunately anything other women write will look like jealousy, when, in my opinion, it is something different.

When I came here I also got some (mostly undeserved!) attention, surely not as much as you or others, Ange, but more than my fair share for a month or two, and I know I also got a lot of angry responses and reactions as well which boiled down to "what is the big fucking deal, what is so great about HER?" which is was IS TRUE!


But when I think back on all of the women who have come through here, caused a whirlwind with their talents, and not all of them caused a big disturbance. I think much depends upon their reaction to the attention.

Main Pitfalls:
Taking the attention and praise (and themselves) too seriously
Getting grumpy and huffy when the attention naturally wanes
Thinking there is something wrong with anyone who does not think along the lines of the majority-- or taking it personally, throwing blame.


Look at TaraBlackwood, she was serious about writing, opinionated, very talented, highly intelligent, etc etc etc. I miss her!!! She never really took the attention or herself too seriously as I recall and she was easy to get along with.

And I do admit, there have been times when someone has come along, man and woman, who everyone seems to think is god's greatest gift to poetry or humanity and I am left thinking "huh? I don't get it!" It took me awhile to really get into Tara's work, for example... but it is just a matter of taste. I think people should be open to different opinions-- when anyone goes against the grain, they tend to be shot down shunned or ignored.

So, I think it just takes time for a new female to settle in to the tribe, find a spot, figure out the pecking order, etc...sometimes the boys need to put on shows, build big rock piles with fancy feathers on top, and YES it is natural to be interested and attracted to talent, etc! It is human nature. Human nature. No one should blame people for wanting to get to know someone new.

But I do not agree that it is always over women. Not true. It happens with the men too all of the time, just manifests itself differently.

oh one more thing, I think it is particularly hurtful to people when former friends turn their backs on each other in order to get a better view of the latest thing... or get on good terms with someone else. It is also particularly confusing, here and everywhere when you see people you care about acting strangely, and you are left with "who are you and what did you do with my friend??"


But at the end of the day, we are all just human, and although some people say this is not the "real" world, we cannot help but bring our humanity, along with our failings, along with us....and I certainly have more than my fair share of the failings as well and never presume to be above it all when I point out human nature.

there are my two cents.

Thanks if anyone actually read all of this rambling!

:heart:


Angeline said:
I've been thinking alot about what's pissing everyone off so much here lately. Personally, I have flashes of pissed-offness, (Eve, do not comment on the flashes lol), but what is mainly bothering me is I hate it when there's discord here. This place is sorta like my second home; there are people here who have become real friends over the years and I don't like fighting in my home or with my friends.

But I think what is really bugging many people is that someone new has come along and that person is obviously very, very smart and has a lot of talent as a poet. Like oozing talent. You can argue that with me till the cows come home but in your heart of hearts you know it's true.

When I first came here people were hailing me as some sort of genius, the queen of poetry. I won all the contests, I had twenty people pming me and slobbering over me. It was very flattering, but the other side of it was that about half the people here hated me. I got angry pms and emails. Those people told me I was a bitch, *potty mouth alert* a cunt, had no talent, never would, etc. They made me cry and doubt myself because I had never shown my poems to others before. If it weren't for a few people here, primarily the late smithpeter, I would have fled years ago. And if I had done that, I'd have never met eagleyez and my life would be different now. But I digress.

So I had the reign for a few years until someone new came along who was maybe a better writer than me, definitely more in vogue. People didn't fawn over me anymore. Eh, you get over it. Ultimately it's better for me as a writer, I do know that.

Anyway I don't expect y'all to get along--I'm not that naive, but someone new who seems better at this poetry stuff--or gets more attention--than you or me will always come along, if not here then somewhere else. Deep Asleep sent me a few of his newest poems recently and I was just blown away by how good they are. I'm happy for him. Maybe I'll never be that good--why should it upset me? There are a few people here who have hung in and written and grown, people like Liar and Eve and Jamison. They're so kind to everyone and graceful; when I grow up I want to be like them.

Probably a few of you would like to--or will--come in here and tear this post apart. Feel free. I have an editing job to finish and then I have to do laundry. Maybe I'll even get lucky and write a poem. Life goes on, yknow?

PS And has anyone else noticed that these wars always (well aside from the neverending votes wars) always are over women. Never men. Food for thought.
 
Tzaraolous Linnaeus

You are brilliant!

I am glad you are a dude so I don't have to scratch your eyes out

hehe kidding of course

I think another category is the often unnecessary and over-zealous defense in times where there was not really an attack worthy of knights in shining armor coming to the rescue.

It is not one group of people who does this.... it is all over the place and it is often the defensiveness that causes the issue to explode-- why? It makes the person who was supposedly attacked FEEL like a victim that needs to be saved. It makes the person who supposedly attacked, or just having a difference of opinion feel ganged up upon which raises the adrenaline level significantly and things escalate.

Oh and you forgot the moral debates like breastfeeding in public (my favorite!!!)


Tzara said:
Actually, they aren't always over women. Here's a basic taxonomy of fights I have seen and/or participated in:
  • You utterly fail to perceive my brilliance, you dumb fuck. My (poems/commentary/jocular charm) are not properly appreciated by (the community/one or more specific bastards) and I intend to shout and curse at you until I beat the fact of my superiority into your shrunken and dysfuctional brain.
  • How dare you piss all over my profound innermost thoughts, you elitist asshole. I have opened my (soul/heart/aorta) and spilled its contents across the page. What is this shit about clichéd and hackneyed phrasing? Boo hoo. You (people/specific person) are a cruel snobbish dickhead and I'm taking my poems and going (home/back to that other forum where people are friendly/straight to New Yorker magazine).
  • How could you possibly say (his/her) poems were wonderful? I mean, I've been here for (years/months/hours/34 seconds) and my poems are way better than that. Why don't you tell me my poems are good? I'm hurt and want to throw rocks at you.
  • Don't flirt with (him/her)! I want you to flirt with me! (She/He) is just (a slut/a jerk/easy/pompous) and unworthy of all this attention. I am way hotter than that! Are you blind or something?
I have left off the ever-popular Why are you mean people voting my poem down and You are a worthless schmuck because you never say anything critical taxa, as they have a wide variety of subgenera and it would take to long to delineate all of them. Besides, I have to go to work.
 
Oh and UBijou-- really-- do not sweat the spotlight thread! And yes, there were more of these kinds of threads-- a while ago, 1201 did a whole series of them called "Interact" so many people here have had the spotlight, you should not feel strange about that at all. Maybe you can go back and read the Interact threads of people who have contributed so greatly to your spotlight and go ask them a few questions too-- it might make things feel a little more even? I do not mean that as an insult, just as a suggestion. I do not know you to even suggest that you have not done so already.

But the thread should be looked upon just as another way for people to get to know you, what you are about, what makes you tick as a writer. Maybe the word "spotlight" threw some people off? I don't know, but really, don't sweat it, you are not alone and hopefully you will stick it out like so many have before you :) I have not been around much, but I do remember when you first came I wrote highly of your work, and perhaps I will get more into new poetry again soon... but I just do not have time to read the Spotlight (which I know you would not expect anyone too!)

Tristesse said:
 
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screw the baby, he is fine just floating around getting everything he needs delivered.... how about how's the mommy? :devil:

three hours worth of needles in my arm testing my blood sugar boohoo bruised and oy vey the heartburn and kicking of my liver!!!!


sorry I rambled too long. I tend to do that. It is my ego telling me that someone might give a rip about my opinion. :rolleyes: which is really quite dull.... I will stop now.



WickedEve said:
How's the baby? :)
 
annaswirls said:
how about how's the mommy? :devil:
*lots more words*
*eve freaking out having to read other people's words but she like really loves to read her own words because she's special that way.*
How's the mommy?
 
unpredictablebijou said:
I'll give you a fucking thread, honey. Really. I was trying to make the Naughty Poetry thread into one, and it seems to be working nicely. C'mon over. You want it more personal than that, even? First person singular, or even plural? Second person singular, with whips and chains and jars of marshmallow fluff? we can go there. Just say the word.

bj
Mallow fluff? Kinky. Sure, why not. I haven't written anything erotic for awhile.
School makes me boring.
 
neonurotic said:
Mallow fluff? Kinky. Sure, why not. I haven't written anything erotic for awhile.
School makes me boring.

so. can you write a poem that includes marshmallow fluff, coffee, and one additional food substance used in unconventional ways?

To others that I just caught up on: (been busy this evening) wise words, one and all. I have looked a great deal at the poetry critique thread and it's had me thinking about my own approach to offering "critique" of the work of others. I'm very reluctant to do so, not out of passivity but because I have a great deal of trouble knowing the lines where my perception of a piece and the goals of the writer will cross one another. I'll think and write about this a bit more when my finger gets better.

One thing I'm comfortable with is offering praise when something really hits me. But I know that the critique forum is about more than just that and that's one reason you haven't seen me in there yet. There's something so sacred about someone's work - far more sacred to me than my own, usually, and I'm reluctant to put my fingers all over it, the way one might be reluctant to touch a religious statue in someone's home.

more on that sometime soon. I have enjoyed so much about this thread, and of course I ask a lot of questions of others, but I will also go check out the "interact" threads when I have time.

namaste
bijou
 
Angeline said:
Never men. Food for thought.
Come on, the place is riddled with wannbe alpha males, knights in error. Distortion artistes.
Besides, I thought this thread was about Mr. T. and Mr. E having a go at it.

Boy, thou uproarious shark of heaven,
Slaughter of Elyiusm
Hearts on fire, aroused, enraptured,
We wll tolchock you on the rot and kick your grahzny bum.

-A. Burgess
 
Angeline said:
You can say whatever you want. I never deleted any of your comments. Never.

What does the inner circle do? What's the benefit?

And I'm the wrong person to complain to about votes.
too bad I can't find it
did you forget?
1201 is forceful or something like that,
blah,blah,blah, blah

as for me I vote for being nice

classic
infers without saying I am not nice - that's twice, don't do it again.

as for voting, because of that immense propagada drive I will never be on the top list, and I fully realize I write for three or four people, maybe if I get deceptive (not subtle) enough I can get it up to five.


What does the inner circle do? What's the benefit?

To who, to me? I'm not part of any circle. Try asking yourself, if I was not a mod, If I didn't do new poems review, what would be the impact on votes, comments, etc. But your (impersonal your) little circles, insure votes, ego stroking, support. In general everything you (again impersonal you) to convince yourselves (impersonal, again), you are a wonderfull, witty poet, person. And because of the average intelligence around here, all someone in that circle has to say is, this is no good, with no reason and it is unquestioned. That is the dynamics of this place.

In itself, circles are not a a bad thing, circles exist because of friendships, style preferences, that is fair, but when the circles try to overide discussion, to insure that nothing disturbs this wonderful feeling - well things get a little unreal.

If I have to be a lone unpopular voice, so be it.

I was regarding YDD.
I was regarding various poems posted here.
I should have been regarding TaraBlackwood22.
I will be if I see evidence of systematic crap favouritism in new poems reviews.

In short, Angeline, groupthink is not think.
 
WickedEve said:
Originally Posted by annaswirls
how about how's the mommy?
*lots more words*
*eve freaking out having to read other people's words but she like really loves to read her own words because she's special that way.*


oh goodness, always forgetting.

Eve, tell me about your toes or something :) Are they your divine source of inspiration?
 
annaswirls said:
oh goodness, always forgetting.

Eve, tell me about your toes or something :) Are they your divine source of inspiration?
Ah, my toes.
Seriously, I was thinking about you and I was going to mention something to you. I think it would be cool if you kept a poetic pregnancy journal. Something you could share with your fetus years from now. Wish I would have done something like that. Instead, I was into cross stitching. Oh, the thrill...
 
WickedEve said:
Ah, my toes.
Seriously, I was thinking about you and I was going to mention something to you. I think it would be cool if you kept a poetic pregnancy journal. Something you could share with your fetus years from now. Wish I would have done something like that. Instead, I was into cross stitching. Oh, the thrill...

I was going to ask that, too. Um about how Anna has been, not your toes, all 15 of them.

How's the baby Anna? The last time you were here a lot you were having a lot of morning sickness. I hope that's past now. I'm glad you brought the poll thing back. It is fun.

See how nice I am? I'm not supposed to be nice anymore, but I can't help myself, even if 1201 fires digital shots at my monitor. :D
 
anonamouse said:
Come on, the place is riddled with wannbe alpha males, knights in error. Distortion artistes.
Besides, I thought this thread was about Mr. T. and Mr. E having a go at it.

Boy, thou uproarious shark of heaven,
Slaughter of Elyiusm
Hearts on fire, aroused, enraptured,
We wll tolchock you on the rot and kick your grahzny bum.

-A. Burgess


The glorious 9th




" The truth has no concern for anyone's comfort."
- Arturo Binewski
 
cross stitching! That is a dangerous sport! Sharp objects and I try to stay far from each other.

I have been making Christmas ornaments with my crafty son -- I should write poetry, but my hormones have made me all soft and mushy and even my tendons are loose (are there tendons in the brain :rolleyes:) and this thing keeps kicking me, very distracting.

WickedEve said:
Ah, my toes.
Seriously, I was thinking about you and I was going to mention something to you. I think it would be cool if you kept a poetic pregnancy journal. Something you could share with your fetus years from now. Wish I would have done something like that. Instead, I was into cross stitching. Oh, the thrill...
 
Thanks for asking, Ange! Baby seems to be doing fine! Morning sickness gone! Whoohoo!!!

I am going to try to keep up with the poll, maybe do the New Poem Title poll too. It is fun to press radio buttons and have bar graphs grow in response to your touch. Very arousing.



Angeline said:
I was going to ask that, too. Um about how Anna has been, not your toes, all 15 of them.

How's the baby Anna? The last time you were here a lot you were having a lot of morning sickness. I hope that's past now. I'm glad you brought the poll thing back. It is fun.

See how nice I am? I'm not supposed to be nice anymore, but I can't help myself, even if 1201 fires digital shots at my monitor. :D
 
Angeline said:
I've been thinking alot about what's pissing everyone off so much here lately. Personally, I have flashes of pissed-offness, (Eve, do not comment on the flashes lol), but what is mainly bothering me is I hate it when there's discord here. This place is sorta like my second home; there are people here who have become real friends over the years and I don't like fighting in my home or with my friends.

But I think what is really bugging many people is that someone new has come along and that person is obviously very, very smart and has a lot of talent as a poet. Like oozing talent. You can argue that with me till the cows come home but in your heart of hearts you know it's true.

When I first came here people were hailing me as some sort of genius, the queen of poetry. I won all the contests, I had twenty people pming me and slobbering over me. It was very flattering, but the other side of it was that about half the people here hated me. I got angry pms and emails. Those people told me I was a bitch, *potty mouth alert* a cunt, had no talent, never would, etc. They made me cry and doubt myself because I had never shown my poems to others before. If it weren't for a few people here, primarily the late smithpeter, I would have fled years ago. And if I had done that, I'd have never met eagleyez and my life would be different now. But I digress.

So I had the reign for a few years until someone new came along who was maybe a better writer than me, definitely more in vogue. People didn't fawn over me anymore. Eh, you get over it. Ultimately it's better for me as a writer, I do know that.

Anyway I don't expect y'all to get along--I'm not that naive, but someone new who seems better at this poetry stuff--or gets more attention--than you or me will always come along, if not here then somewhere else. Deep Asleep sent me a few of his newest poems recently and I was just blown away by how good they are. I'm happy for him. Maybe I'll never be that good--why should it upset me? There are a few people here who have hung in and written and grown, people like Liar and Eve and Jamison. They're so kind to everyone and graceful; when I grow up I want to be like them.

Probably a few of you would like to--or will--come in here and tear this post apart. Feel free. I have an editing job to finish and then I have to do laundry. Maybe I'll even get lucky and write a poem. Life goes on, yknow?

PS And has anyone else noticed that these wars always (well aside from the neverending votes wars) always are over women. Never men. Food for thought.


Please don't make excuses for me. Do not try and figure out what is wrong with me. I never HAVE been a butt kisser. Does everybody want me to say something really insincere like, I'm sorry? It won't happen.

My initial response to her poetry was an honest one. I had no idea who she was/is. I guess I forgot to check out the threads and find out she was "special" before I decided to be honest about her work.

and Angeline? You were one of the first to befriend me here and I was astonished that anyone could write like you with such ease and flair. YOU have talent. I always have looked up to you as diplomatic. see, the thing is, I like LOTS of poets here who are not in a circle, clique, oval, etc. I admire work that others have dissed from day one. I am different, should I apologize for that?

I read MOST of the poetry posted, except a couple of people who consistently write about incest and that isn't my cup of tea. I know I cannot be objective, so I leave it alone.

Usually, and this is in ref to the Interact threads, usually, t he "spotlighted" poet had made themselves a larger part of the community than to just be a cyber cum-bag. I am even done having an opinion about her. The problem is bigger than the one this one ring circus in the middle of Podunk nowhere.

I have read other reviews of poets and their work which was in line with what I said about her "work" and it pissed no one off. Why is my opinion singled out as wrong, only when it comes to people you guys like so much? I don't get that. Maybe that is the circle I don't WANT to be a part of.

I will not apologize for speaking my mind. and now I am in the position of defending myself because some of you have tried to water down what I said because of your own opinion of her. PLease don't do that. MY opinions are just as real as anyones and hell, this country isn't communist, yet.

I didn't like her poetry from the beginning, just like so many of you didn't like mine. That didn't make me run around and cry and play victim, it made me actually WORK on my writing. That doesn't mean that she won't also grow. Everyone that tries has the potential to grow. I thought I was doing her a favor by giving an honest opinion she might not have gotten elsewhere. Little did I know that a monkey and an angel would try to tell her I meant something else, or I was having a bad day, etc. I meant what I said, and I still mean it. Someday, she will appreciate that someone was honest with her, if she really is about the poetry.

My not liking her poetry had nothing to do with HER. It was when she insulted me and then laughed in my face about it, that i decided she wasn't what I consider friend material. Why should she care? I wouldn't. Mine is but one voice here.

The facts of life are, I don't have to like someone. I dont have to like their poetry just because the majority does and when that makes me a bad guy, then poetry doesn't have a fucking thing to do with it anymore.

Ya'll should do her a favor and help her out rather than just giving blind praise. As far as voting goes, I do direct this to bijou. Voting is bull shit and if you base your self opinion on those little numbers, you will always be hurting. There will always be someone out there honey, that votes you down just because they can, or they think it's funny, whatever, and it wont be me. Just cause I set the therm at 50 when I commented on your work, that doesnt mean it was my actual VOTE.

I left what I consider valid constructive crit. We have had a thread about this before- How to treat newbies when it comes to crit and voting. I THOUGHT she was mature enough to appreciate honesty. I guess I was wrong.

I invite HER to comment on my work, though I warn you, I delete anonymous venom. and sometimes I delete anonymous praise, especially if it is ooey gooey sticky and embarrassing, though I don't get much of that. Know why? I dont kiss ass and do not expect it in return so I am not on anyones vote'm up high and reap some rewards list.

In fact, I have my FB option set to NOT accept anonymous comments, although, anyone who is not a member here and wishes to leave comments will show up as anonymous. That's just the way it is. Don't always assume that an anon comment is a troll. Sometimes it's just a person who comes to Lit to read and not get involved with the writers and other readers. Hindsight tells me that they are the smartest ones of all.


I am now gonna make a little list of people who I loved to read who do not post anymore. Yes, there are some extremely talented people posting here lately. I speak specifically of Minervous, Hmmnmm, TrevorBlack, Manipulatrix and others I dont have on the tip of my tongue. But look at what has gone from our place and can you honestly say this is the best it;s ever been? I wholeheartedly disagree, but then, it is my opinion and don't water it down.


Flyguy

TaraBlackwood

Cordelia

Lauren Hynde ( is she okay, Ange?)

of course, o3sp and his dozen or so alts, but we know why he isnt posting... :heart:

Catastrophe ( one of my personal faves)

JD4George

sandspike

ishtat

Icingsugar and linbido

jthserra, anyone? remember him?

syndra lyn

PERKS ( I miss that crazy betch)

postobitum

BooMerengue

Tristesse

the Mutt

Minsue ( excellent illustrated poetry)

clutching calliope (and her couple of alts) she removed posts too, because she wanted to, never gave an explanation and no one went ballistic


**Some of the people who have left can now be found in print and online. Read the toot your horn thread to find them- but they include- denis hale, catbabe, Patrick Carrington and a slew of active poets here


anyone who has NOT read these people are doing themselves a huge disservice If you really love poetry and not just talking about it, read these people. Quit patting yourselves on the back when you have done so little and read these people. Learn something. I'm not the bad guy. Get over yourselves.

:rose:
 
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annaswirls said:
Thanks for asking, Ange! Baby seems to be doing fine! Morning sickness gone! Whoohoo!!!

I am going to try to keep up with the poll, maybe do the New Poem Title poll too. It is fun to press radio buttons and have bar graphs grow in response to your touch. Very arousing.

Is it a poll for new poem titles or a new poem poll? Either way I love it. I read many pieces from new writers that are really good, and if you don't read the new poems (either on your own or based on recommendations), they're lost to you.

I remember getting past morning sickness and into that part of pregnancy where you feel great--although your case of Tums suggests you've moved into the heartburn stage. Now I spend endless hours discussing boys with my daughter (he likes me, I like him, he doesn't like me, my friend says he likes me, should I like him?). Oy. Hearburn was easier. :cool:
 
WickedEve said:
Where is Boo?


I haven't heard from her in ages. Last I heard, she wasn't feeling very good and was in the process of moving. Wherever she is--:heart:

I miss her sweetness
 
Angeline said:
Is it a poll for new poem titles or a new poem poll? Either way I love it. I read many pieces from new writers that are really good, and if you don't read the new poems (either on your own or based on recommendations), they're lost to you.

I remember getting past morning sickness and into that part of pregnancy where you feel great--although your case of Tums suggests you've moved into the heartburn stage. Now I spend endless hours discussing boys with my daughter (he likes me, I like him, he doesn't like me, my friend says he likes me, should I like him?). Oy. Hearburn was easier. :cool:


I am lazy, just did a poll of new poem titles. Maybe we should have a new poem competition once a week. It might be fun! Not as much as a competition as a friendly way to recognize what we like?

I am on a lit kick and will probably sink away again (many hours subbing and just being tired and on a super-mom pta mom binge) and should take small bites.

I am JEALOUS that you get to talk about boys with your daughter!!!! I wanted a daughter!!!!! But I can imagine that it must be painful too especially the he doesn't like me ones. Lord, I never imagined how heartbreaking parenthood is.
 
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