The real american sniper was a hate-filled psycho.

[JohnnySavage]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...-Royal-Marine-is-worlds-deadliest-sniper.html

British Royal Marine is world's deadliest sniper
Corporal reported to have recorded 173 confirmed kills during tours of Afghanistan and Iraq, putting him ahead of US Navy SEAL Chris Kyle featured in American Sniper film

Possibly the least known sniper on this list, Simo Häyhä, nicknamed “White Death” is by far the most prolific and lethal sniper of all time. The Finn fought for the Finnish Army during the Finland-Soviet Union Winter War between 1939-1940. Of course, being named the Winter War, and being fought in northern Finland, the temperatures were anywhere from a brisk -4 Fahrenheit to an unbearably cold -40 Fahrenheit. And yet, Häyhä, dressed in white, snow colored camouflage, set out alone every day for nearly 100 days to kill members of the Red Army. And kill he did. Häyhä has a confirmed sniper kill total of 505 in less than 100 days! Furthermore, Simo Häyhä was old school and only ever employed a bolt-action rifle, without a scope as a sniper. In the context of warfare, and being a sniper, this was truly a remarkable feat. If one takes into account that Häyhä also employed a submachine gun during Red Army sieges, his confirmed kills total rises to 705. Simo Häyhä could very well have been the inspiration for all of the Vasily Zaytsev propaganda in Stalingrad, as the Russians actually did employ expert marksmen of their own to hunt and kill him, but to no avail. Häyhä was eventually shot in the face by a Russian soldier, thus taking him out of action, letting Soviet soldiers sleep a little better at night. The wound left Häyhä unconscious until the day peace was declared between Finland and the Soviet Union, and he went on to live until he was 96 years old, still by far the most prolific sniper in military history.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Please note that the US did not declare war during WW2.

Japan attacked before declaring war on the US.

Yes, and then Congress, at FDR's request, responded by declaring war on Japan.

 

[oggbashan]

Yes, and then Congress, at FDR's request, responded by declaring war on Japan.

The interesting question is whether they would have declared war without the Pearl Harbor attack.

Many historians have suggested that the US would have continued to stay out of WW2, and certainly out of Europe, but for Pearl Harbor and Hitler's declaration of war on the US.

How much longer the US could have stayed out? That's another interesting question.

Both Japan and Germany massively underestimated the US's potential military power.

 

[BotanyBoy]

You totally missed the point which doesn't surprise me. First I never said that I wanted the Hollywood elites to make more reverent films.

Gee I wonder where I got the impression you did...

Maybe they will start making more movies about honor, God and service to the country.

I get a chuckle when the elites pan a film because of its content, in this case a war hero who I would suggest saved more American and coalition lives then enemy live he took.

pan a film? And what does that have to do with the subject?

You don't discuss religion, you just criticize every aspect of it which of course is you choice. Any mention of the subject leads you to assume that someone is a right wing religious nut.

I do, and actually I don't I criticize it's half assed bull shittin' followers and they hypocritical bullshit behavior.

WeedWonk is intolerant of religious freedom and the founding principles of America.

Vettemans definition of 'religious freedom' = evangelical Christians getting to legislate their religious views and values on all other Americans and FUCK all other religions. Because he's under some RWCJ delusion that we are a Christian nation.

And exactly what founding principles am I intolerant of??

 

[contrifan32]

But you're missing the point, too.

The movie was an "embellishment" of Kyle's "embellished" book. You're choosing to "worship" this man that said he killed 30 looters in post-Katrina New Orleans, an act if he actually did, would have made his a criminal, not only in the eyes of the law, but in the military. You know, General Russel Honore had that city locked down and in no uncertain terms, had those under his charge NOT SHOOT!

First, its a MOVIE based on the life of a Navy Seal sniper and his accomplishments and faults as a human being. Second, you confuse "worship" with respect. Yes, as I have said I respect the man who saved many American and or collation lives in a war zone while under great stress and danger to he own life.

Are you suggesting that Kyle said he killed 30 looters in his book American Sniper? I read the book and have it in front of me and don't recall reading that. Please explain.

 

[contrifan32]

Gee I wonder where I got the impression you did...




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Absolute fucking nut....

It was a joke buzz boy. The liberal elite in Hollywood have no honor, hate the military and will only mock religion in the movies they put out.
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Did you forget responding to that buzz boy? Too many bong hits will do that to ya

 

[BotanyBoy]

First, its a MOVIE based on the life of a Navy Seal sniper and his accomplishments and faults as a human being.

Except it wasn't...it was loosely based at best, most would say it's a big steaming pile of buu shit. That's the point you keep missiong and or deliberately ignoring.

It was a joke buzz boy.

I don't think it was...because then you always follow it up with your hyperpartisan Limbaugh regurgitation.

The liberal elite in Hollywood have no honor, hate the military and will only mock religion in the movies they put out.

Yes the 'liberal elite' LOL

Like I said...absolute nut.

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Keep telling yourself that....and even if it were true I will outlast you, you don't have the will power

Did you forget responding to that buzz boy? Too many bong hits will do that to ya

No I didn't....and no it won't Nixon jr.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Gee I wonder where I got the impression you did...




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Originally Posted by BotanyBoy View Post
Absolute fucking nut....

It was a joke buzz boy. The liberal elite in Hollywood have no honor, hate the military and will only mock religion in the movies they put out.
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Go fish

Did you forget responding to that buzz boy? Too many bong hits will do that to ya

I may be out of the loop, but didn't Hollywood elites pay for and make American Sniper

 

[PoppingTom]

I may be out of the loop, but didn't Hollywood elites pay for and make American Sniper

Clint Eastwood isn't Hollywood elite. He's the only lonesome independent upright movie maker in that Babylon hotbed of infinite sin called Hollywood.

(...think I read something similar to that....)

 

[BotanyBoy]

Clint Eastwood isn't Hollywood elite. He's the only lonesome independent upright movie maker in that Babylon hotbed of infinite sin called Hollywood.

(...think I read something similar to that....)

Vetteman wrote it didn't he?

 

[contrifan32]

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Originally Posted by contrifan32 View Post
First, its a MOVIE based on the life of a Navy Seal sniper and his accomplishments and faults as a human being.

Except it wasn't...it was loosely based at best, most would say it's a big steaming pile of buu shit. That's the point you keep missiong and or deliberately ignoring.

Did you read the book? Can you read a book?

Did you see the movie, or do you rely on other to form your opinion for you?

 

[RobDownSouth]

First, its a MOVIE based on the life of a Navy Seal sniper and his accomplishments and faults as a human being. Second, you confuse "worship" with respect. Yes, as I have said I respect the man who saved many American and or collation lives in a war zone while under great stress and danger to he own life.

Are you suggesting that Kyle said he killed 30 looters in his book American Sniper? I read the book and have it in front of me and don't recall reading that. Please explain.

The New Yorker: Killer Kyle gets drunk, brags to a room full of people about killing 30 looters

 

[RjThoughts]

First, its a MOVIE based on the life of a Navy Seal sniper and his accomplishments and faults as a human being. Second, you confuse "worship" with respect. Yes, as I have said I respect the man who saved many American and or collation lives in a war zone while under great stress and danger to he own life.

Are you suggesting that Kyle said he killed 30 looters in his book American Sniper? I read the book and have it in front of me and don't recall reading that. Please explain.

Based on the lie or life?

Shootings of looters
Shootings of Texas carjackers.

And most of all....

I thought honorable military service men and women didn't cash in on their "service."

You are worshiping him as if he was the ONLY man in Iraq and Afghanistan doing good.

You want to know a true hero, look at the Pat Tillman story, a man who was killed by "friendly fire" and the fucking Army cover-up that followed!

 

[contrifan32]

The New Yorker: Killer Kyle gets drunk, brags to a room full of people about killing 30 looters

So Rob, you never got drunk and said or did something stupid?

 

[contrifan32]

Based on the lie or life?

Shootings of looters
Shootings of Texas carjackers.

And most of all....

I thought honorable military service men and women didn't cash in on their "service."

You are worshiping him as if he was the ONLY man in Iraq and Afghanistan doing good.

You want to know a true hero, look at the Pat Tillman story, a man who was killed by "friendly fire" and the fucking Army cover-up that followed!

No AH, its not "worship" I respect honor him for his service to his country and for saving lives as mentioned several times before. For once I will agree with you, Pat Tillman was also a hero who deserves the same respect.

You never answered my question. You didn't read the book did you. There was nothing in the book about Katrina as you stated.

 

[1sickbastard]

Vetteman wrote it didn't he?

The vetteman doesn't write anything original. Not even his piss poor attempts at deflection and insults are original.

 

[RobDownSouth]

So Rob, you never got drunk and said or did something stupid?

You asked for a citation/explanation on Kyle's "30 looters" claim and I gave you one.

 

[KingOrfeo]

So Rob, you never got drunk and said or did something stupid?

In vinum veritas.

 

[miles]

So Rob, you never got drunk and said or did something stupid?

He says stewpid shit all the time while he's sober.

 

[oggbashan]

...

And most of all....

I thought honorable military service men and women didn't cash in on their "service."

...

I think that is a mistaken idea. Military memoirs have been popular since Julius Caesar wrote his Gallic Wars.

The number of WW1, WW2 and Vietnam stories show that it can sell.

It used to be Generals and Admirals who wrote their war stories. Now it is GIs.

What you are thinking about is that criminals are not supposed to profit from writing about their crimes. Jack The Ripper could have been a Victorian millionaire.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Did you read the book? Can you read a book?

Nope sure didn't.....

Yep...sure can.

Did you see the movie, or do you rely on other to form your opinion for you?

I watched most of it, couldn't finish it...it was that bad. Like I said tech was great...but all the emo drama bullshit?

Give me a fucking break... It's dripping with Hollywood.

The vetteman doesn't write anything original. Not even his piss poor attempts at deflection and insults are original.

Good point.

 

[contrifan32]

You asked for a citation/explanation on Kyle's "30 looters" claim and I gave you one.

No, I asked AJ to tell me where these stories were in the book American Sniper... as he incorrectly asserted earlier in this pathetic thread. But he and all you other leftist bomb throwers rely on people like Jessie Ventura, Michael Moore and Seth Rogan to start the vitriol.

I will be waiting for you to mock Brian Williams for his "lying" about being shot down over Kuwait.

 

[contrifan32]

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Originally Posted by contrifan32 Did you read the book? Can you read a book?
Did you see the movie, or do you rely on other to form your opinion for you?

Nope sure didn't.....
Yep...sure can.
I watched most of it, couldn't finish it...it was that bad. Like I said tech was great...but all the emo drama bullshit?

Give me a fucking break... It's dripping with Hollywood.
.

Not everyone lives in a cloud of smoke, the constant gurgle of a bong while gulping down fig newtons. Most people actually do have drama in their lives.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Not everyone lives in a cloud of smoke, the constant gurgle of a bong while gulping down fig newtons. Most people actually do have drama in their lives.

Retired combat veteran...I was there and I'm telling you as someone who's invaded two separate countries with the US Army no matter how bad you want it to be, the Hollywood version of war is just that....a Hollywood fantasy. The only thing real about most of it is names/dates/settings. Rest of it is juiced up bullshit to make a good movie. Because if real war were so fucking entertaining and dramatic they would just stick cameras in the combat zones.

Reality is none of you mother fuckers really want to watch the real shit.....fantasy is a way better story and at large it freaks you out and is the last thing you want rubbed in your face on a daily basis.

 

[RobDownSouth]

No, I asked AJ to tell me where these stories were in the book American Sniper... as he incorrectly asserted earlier in this pathetic thread. But he and all you other leftist bomb throwers rely on people like Jessie Ventura, Michael Moore and Seth Rogan to start the vitriol.

I will be waiting for you to mock Brian Williams for his "lying" about being shot down over Kuwait.

You assigned a position to him, attributing something ("in the book") that he did not make, then criticized him for "his" position.

You asked for an explanation of the position you assigned to him, and I showed you where the claim came from.

Because your parents were miserably failures when it came to teaching you personal integrity, you lacked the character to acknowledge your error. We expect that.

Once again, facts...with their "well know librul bias"....have interfered with your hero worship.