The real american sniper was a hate-filled psycho.

[PoppingTom]

All that arguing to only come in at the end and say you do exactly what I have been saying all along.

Dream on.

 

[contrifan32]

If Contrifan32 were an honest man, which of course he has never been and never will be, he'd admit that he doesn't give a flying fuck about any Navy SEAL....to people like him, they're merely useful tools to use to bash libruls.

If you were any sort of a man (and not a troll) you wouldn't get off putting words and lies about those you disagree with and know nothing about in a political form. The only good news is you and your ilk are such a very small minority on here that you are easily dismissed.

 

[KingOrfeo]

“American Sniper’s” biggest lie: Clint Eastwood has a delusional Fox News problem.

Let’s start with the delusion. The film draws a direct link between the events of 9/11 and the war in Iraq, forgetting completely that the war in Iraq had nothing whatsoever to do with 9/11. Not one of the attackers that day was in any way connected to Iraq. Thus to connect 9/11 to Iraq is delusional. Not even the Bush administration made that overt a link—at the time they claimed they went to Iraq to keep the Iraqis from using weapons of mass destruction that were never found.

But that’s not the perceptions of many who watch Fox News. As the Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA) at the University of Maryland reported back in 2003: “Those who receive most of their news from Fox News are more likely than average to have misperceptions.” In their poll they found that 80 percent of Fox viewers held at least one of three Iraq-related misperceptions, more than any other news consumers, especially those that consume NPR and PBS.

The point is that the 9/11-Iraq link is delusional, but it is also a common link in public perceptions of those on the right that watch Fox News and clearly it is one that makes sense to Eastwood and those that think like him.

The second problem is the culture of violence. While the film tries to show Kyle wrestling at some level with some of his kills, he still very clearly divides the world into categories. As his father puts it in the film, there are wolves (those that want to kill you), sheep, and sheep dogs (who have to protect the sheep from the wolves). Not only are there just three categories of life, but these categories are also defined solely by a logic of violence and aggression. In the film, Iraqis are almost all depicted as wolves, even women and children. Kyle’s first two kills are a young boy and his mother. But they posed a threat and thus needed to be killed. As Kyle later explains, he has no remorse over any of his kills, just over the lives he wished he could have protected.

At no point does the film consider the fact that the war was based on false justifications. At no point does it imagine that those in Iraq might have seen the U.S. soldiers as invaders in their homeland. At no point does it imagine that the violence suffered by our own soldiers could have been avoided if we simply hadn’t started the war to begin with. The logic of war is completely unquestioned, making this the most simplistic war film we have seen nominated for an Oscar in decades.

But the fact that the film has no nuance, no context, and no subtlety should not surprise us. If anything it is a terrifying glimpse into a GOP mindset that couples delusion with violence. We watch Kyle zero in on a pinpointed target and we are reminded of the ways that such a narrow, aggressive vision is itself a metaphor for GOP beliefs. This is a movie that’s not just about a sniper, but also about an attitude that threatens to destroy any chance in our nation for political compromise and productive debate. And that’s what makes this movie really disturbing.

 

[contrifan32]

“American Sniper’s” biggest lie: Clint Eastwood has a delusional Fox News problem.

Did you see the movie? The suggestion that the film "draws a link between 911 and the Iraq war" is what is truly delusional! This is one of the more pathetic Salon "articles" you have posted. What makes it complete is the all important reference to Fox News Channel. You really need to get some new reading material.

Oh and by the way, as of this weekend... 200 million in ticket sales. That ought to get all you Libs really foaming at the mouth.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Oh and by the way, as of this weekend... 200 million in ticket sales. That ought to get all you Libs really foaming at the mouth.

No, it's about what I would have expected.

 

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[RobDownSouth]

Obviously you thought ...

#AscriptionAgain

Please stop ascribing positions to me. It's unmanly, even for a Vietnam-era marine.

Besides which, that's Queerbait/CucumberLover's job, and he gets very pissy when someone else does it.

 

[contrifan32]

#AscriptionAgain

Please stop ascribing positions to me..

Didn't you just do that to me... and most other on here and yet you tell someone not to do tat to you? You really do have some issues don't you?

 

[RobDownSouth]

Didn't you just do that to me... and most other on here and yet you tell someone not to do tat to you? You really do have some issues don't you?

<AJ Mode>
It's Different When *I* Do It!
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[contrifan32]

No, it's about what I would have expected.

I bet you were expecting this too?

"Box Office Predictions: 'American Sniper' Will Get Another Easy Win On Super Bowl Weekend"

 

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[CandiCame]

I'm getting that 'end of the day' tired. Are there two of these threads?

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Obviously you thought the left wing propagandistic fantasy "Apocalypse Now;" and "Platoon," where every bad thing that happened in ten years of the Vietnam War, happened to one platoon in 2 hours, was indicative of the Vietnam War experience as well. Course if you didn't have to depend on the BS of others you'd know the truth and what it means to those who did serve in those environments.

Those were both excellent movies too.

Why is everyone demanding that movies be 100% factual when it comes to the military?

These are movies.

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

I haven't seen the movie but I probably will go with the expectation to be entertained.

If I wanted to be educated I would read or watch a documentary.

 

[PoppingTom]

I haven't seen the movie but I probably will go with the expectation to be entertained.

If I wanted to be educated I would read or watch a documentary.

I still won't watch it. What's so interesting on snipers? And what's so interesting on boring stories with a blood toll of 50% ?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Those were both excellent movies too.

Why is everyone demanding that movies be 100% factual when it comes to the military?

These are movies.

Because Americans have this curiosity to see what all the wars they wage are like....but they want it in a way that doesn't offend. LOL it's pretty funny actually.

I still won't watch it. What's so interesting on snipers? And what's so interesting on boring stories with a blood toll of 50% ?

They are the modern ninja....people want to know.

And I don't understand most of your post....English...learn to speak it.

 

[PoppingTom]

And I don't understand most of your post....English...learn to speak it.

The good thing on the English language is that I can speak it the way I want it, and it's still English.

But what part didn't you understand?

 

[phrodeau]

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Oh and by the way, as of this weekend... 200 million in ticket sales. That ought to get all you Libs really foaming at the mouth.

Yay, just think of all the money it's making for the liberal elite in Hollywood.

 

[BotanyBoy]

The good thing on the English language is that I can speak it the way I want it, and it's still English.

Not really, just because you string a bunch of words together doesn't mean they convey any sort of message.

But what part didn't you understand?

And what's so interesting on boring stories with a blood toll of 50% ?

 

[PoppingTom]

Not really, just because you string a bunch of words together doesn't mean they convey any sort of message.

I can enhance my English to Rastafarian, maybe you understand better then, man.

"And what's so interesting on boring stories with a blood toll of 50% ?"

OK, I would exchange "blood toll" with "body count". My fault.

 

[phrodeau]

The director Clint Eastwood considers it an anti-war film.

"The biggest antiwar statement any film" can make is to show "the fact of what [war] does to the family and the people who have to go back into civilian life like Chris Kyle did," Clint Eastwood said at Saturday’s Producers Guild Award Nominees Breakfast.

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/clint-eastwood-on-american-snipers-biggest-109039032327.html

 

[WildBill2015]

The way I hear it, via both the liberal and conservative media:

• In his autobiography (or was it biography, I don't know cuz I don't care), he claimed to have gone to post-Katrina New Orleans to randomly shoot at people, some of whom he hit and/or killed; and punched and knocked to the floor a former WWF wrestler, an event that not only didn't happen but for which Kyle was successfully sued for defamation of character.
• And, because the movie's producer, director and/or writer wanted to make him out to be a hero, they left all of that out of the movie.

If that is correct and he himself claimed to have done all of that; and if it is true that it was left out of the movie to present an "American Hero", then should he be celebrated or despised?

Again, I couldn't give a shit, because I despise "inspired by" or "based upon" type movies.

 

[Disgustipated]

Texas Governor Declares February 2 As 'Chris Kyle Day'

Looks like the majority of Texans think the "hate-filled psycho" is the one who started this thread.

Texans also want to be their own country. What's your point?