The ways we neglect ourselves

[cfuhrer]

Thanks for all of the fish tips ladies. I'm a bit icked out about cooking something with eyes though.

There's only one place I can buy live/fresh fish around here, fortunately it's the same place I can get local grown and exotic veggies, so it's one stop. The fish monger would probably cut the head off if I asked right?

I have a duck in the freezer too, whole. It was on sale (don't know why) so I figured I'd give it a shot, but I haven't figured out what to do with it either. I know it's very high in fat, so I'm waiting for a special occation, and to get lots of veggies to go with it.

gracie I started drinking diet when I was like 12, when we first discovered my sugar issues. I'm so used to it now that I can't stand regular.

Duck:
Do it like baking a whole chicken *but* prick the skin with a meat fork and the fat will cook out the holes and into the bottom of the pan.
Some will say to heat a kettle full of water. Prick the skin, then pour the water over the duck and the fat will come out the holes. For my taste this method leaves the meat too dry.

 

[graceanne]

gracie I started drinking diet when I was like 12, when we first discovered my sugar issues. I'm so used to it now that I can't stand regular.

My sister is like that, although in her case we used to drink diet pop cause that's what our mom drank. When I got old enough to make my own choices I switched to regular, just to annoy me my mom. However, K got me diet juice a few times and I thought i was having a heart attack. Since then we've realized it's the aspartame that gives me such bad heart burn.

 

[the captians wench]

Duck:
Do it like baking a whole chicken *but* prick the skin with a meat fork and the fat will cook out the holes and into the bottom of the pan.
Some will say to heat a kettle full of water. Prick the skin, then pour the water over the duck and the fat will come out the holes. For my taste this method leaves the meat too dry.

I've heard that before, but my mom said she did that once and it ended up chewy. Ofcourse my mom isn't the best cook, bless her.

I'll give it a try. Once I go buy some veggies to go with it.

 

[Curious_in_Cali]

I need some fish recipes. I get very bored with chicken, so I tend to eat a lot of beef. I don't care much for pork. I do really like fish though, but I don't know how to cook it other than fried or baked in butter. Both kinda kill the point.

My go to easy to make crowd pleaser for fish is Baked BBQ Salmon. Just take a nice cut of salmon (skin side down on the pan) and drizzling it with a decent amount of olive oil and then sprinkle an all purpose salt free seasoning over it. Bake it until it is almost done and then smother it with your fav BBQ sauce and bake it until the sauce is hot and the fish is fully cooked. I make a simple BBQ sauce of my own, but really any will do.

 

[intothewoods]

I had one of those, once. It works when I remember to fill it. I really am a ding-dong. K has promised to help me remember, but he's iffy, too.



Oh, I don't go around constantly harping on my self esteem issues. In fact, quite the opposite - it usually surprises people if we get into a conversation about ourselves. I learned in high school that the best way to keep from getting teased was to fake a good self esteem - teenagers are like chickens, they'll pick at your weaknesses until you bleed to death.

And honestly, I don't know if I think my self view is that off. It's like saying I'm fat instantly means that everyone around me suddenly has to say 'oh you're not fat', which is big fat fucking lie. I'm 110 lbs over MY target weight - if I go by the doctors charts for someone my height I'm about 140 lbs overweight. So if people will lie to me like that, how can I trust them when they say I'm not an idiot? I mean, for gosh sake, I can't remember to take my meds or where I put my bra or to grab my keys, or when my doctors appointments are. I don't know how other people define it, but I know that I'm a ditz! I don't consider that a bad self esteem - I consider it having a realistic view of myself. But I'm evidently the only one who feels that way. *shrugs*



A digital pillbox, with an alarm? Huh. That's cool.



To everyone who has heard why I'm fat, be warned. I'm about to go over it again.

I'm not fat because I eat too much, I'm fat because I was on prednisone, off and on, for several years. I've had prednisone put into IV's to keep me alive. Add diabetes and that it's hard for me to move around cause of my arthritis, and I've had doctors tell me I'm fucked. My new doctor wants me on a diet, that works, but it's $360 dollars a month, and I cannot afford it.

What diet costs $360 a month?

 

[cfuhrer]

What diet costs $360 a month?

My mom was on Opti-Fast (read: prescription slimfast) and it ran about $800 a month.

 

[graceanne]

What diet costs $360 a month?

You'd be surprised how much diets cost. In the case of this one, most of my food is provided and $360 dollars a month isn't bad. It's just not possible with our income like it is.

 

[intothewoods]

My mom was on Opti-Fast (read: prescription slimfast) and it ran about $800 a month.

You'd be surprised how much diets cost. In the case of this one, most of my food is provided and $360 dollars a month isn't bad. It's just not possible with our income like it is.

Ohhhhhh packaged/pre-made food, got it. Is there no way to make close nutritionally equivalent food on your own?

 

[intothewoods]

God, I'm a bitch. This was my first post in this thread and I said nothing to Stella! Sorry, I meant to post before, and have been reading along, but just realized I never did. Stella, glad to hear you're making yourself a priority, and I hope you feel better.

 

[graceanne]

Ohhhhhh packaged/pre-made food, got it. Is there no way to make close nutritionally equivalent food on your own?

No, it's a mostly liquid diet.

 

[bhndblueyes88]

No, it's a mostly liquid diet.

Also, Liquid diets have a lot of raw supplementation to them that would be hard to do on your own. You'd spend even MORE money buying up all those different vitamin pills to grind up and add to your smoothie. Not to mention they would have a questionable bio-availability...

 

[the captians wench]

I'm not usually an over eater, but liquid diets always leave me feeling hungry so I tend to gain weight because my calories double.

 

[graceanne]

Also, Liquid diets have a lot of raw supplementation to them that would be hard to do on your own. You'd spend even MORE money buying up all those different vitamin pills to grind up and add to your smoothie. Not to mention they would have a questionable bio-availability...

Yeah, pretty much.

I'm not usually an over eater, but liquid diets always leave me feeling hungry so I tend to gain weight because my calories double.

That's the good thing about this diet is it's not completely liquid. First off, you can have all the salad you want as long as the salad dressing is totally sugar and flour free (I make my own vinaigrette, so that wasn't an issue), and you're supposed to have some chicken with lunch and dinner. It's just MOSTLY liquid.

 

[intothewoods]

I guess if it it were me I would do my best to approximate the underlying nutrition. Even if it's not perfect, it's a good start.

 

[Bandit58]

I just thought of another way we neglect ourselves. I haven't been to the dentist in over 6 years.

One reason is the cost, the other is the mortal fear I get whenever I sit in a dentist's chair. Due to having multiple teeth removed as a child, to fit my adult teeth in a small jaw, all I can think of is pain and blood and fear whenever I have to go. I have even had panic attacks in the chair a couple of times

Sir is now going to have a lot of dental work done under Medicare. Because He has a chronic illness and is on a pension the government will pay $4250 over two years for Him to get His teeth fixed. We went for the initial consultation on Thursday. Five extractions (one surgical), five fillings and denture plates made and fitted. Hopefully He will be pain free and able to eat properly for the first time in years, and His overall health should improve once the dental disease is gone (renal patients have a LOT of trouble with their teeth ).

When His treatment is all done and dusted, then it will be my turn for a checkup

 

[Lizzie_Borden]

I guess if it it were me I would do my best to approximate the underlying nutrition. Even if it's not perfect, it's a good start.

This is pretty much what I do.

I've seen people try the various "shakes" diets and what not, and my mind boggles. The sheer boredom of having the same thing for most of my meals and not actually being able to have much in the way of food, would have me sneaking down to the food court at work several times a day.

I just try to make good nutritious food, and limit my portion sizes. It's worked for me so far, slowly but steadily.

 

[intothewoods]

This is pretty much what I do.

I've seen people try the various "shakes" diets and what not, and my mind boggles. The sheer boredom of having the same thing for most of my meals and not actually being able to have much in the way of food, would have me sneaking down to the food court at work several times a day.

I just try to make good nutritious food, and limit my portion sizes. It's worked for me so far, slowly but steadily.

Well, in graceanne's case, I believe she needs a diet that meets very specific nutritional requirements, not just low cal, for example. But whatever those requirements are -- sugar free, gluten free, flax seed, whatever -- just choose food that gets as close as you can. Sounds like you had plans for that with the sugar free, gluten free food you referenced above.

 

[graceanne]

Well, in graceanne's case, I believe she needs a diet that meets very specific nutritional requirements, not just low cal, for example. But whatever those requirements are -- sugar free, gluten free, flax seed, whatever -- just choose food that gets as close as you can. Sounds like you had plans for that with the sugar free, gluten free food you referenced above.

Yeah, pretty much. I've monitored my food intake over the years, and truthfully I tend to err on the side of too LITTLE calories. (For example today I've had a couple of bites of pasta roni, a piece of bread and butter, and a piece of chicken to eat. Total.) Partly because I have very strong food aversions and would rather not eat than eat something on my ick list. I also don't have hunger pains, and sometimes eating makes me nauseous.

The diet the doctor wanted me on was low carb, high protein, low bad fat. Part of the reason it works is because it's not ONE shake or anything over and over, but most of it's liquid. Liquid diets work for me, because it's easy to digest and doesn't hurt me, so I get my calories for the day. It also didn't have any of my trigger foods (gluten, corn products, etc.).

My plan is to go back to a very low carb diet. I plan on keeping the carbs I eat to stuff like brown rice. I also plan on eating a lot of salad, white meat, etc. It's the closest I can get, but it's not liquid so the biggest issue will be how hard it is for me to keep my caloric intake to an acceptable level.

 

[IrisAlthea]

Yeah, pretty much. I've monitored my food intake over the years, and truthfully I tend to err on the side of too LITTLE calories. (For example today I've had a couple of bites of pasta roni, a piece of bread and butter, and a piece of chicken to eat. Total.) Partly because I have very strong food aversions and would rather not eat than eat something on my ick list. I also don't have hunger pains, and sometimes eating makes me nauseous.

The diet the doctor wanted me on was low carb, high protein, low bad fat. Part of the reason it works is because it's not ONE shake or anything over and over, but most of it's liquid. Liquid diets work for me, because it's easy to digest and doesn't hurt me, so I get my calories for the day. It also didn't have any of my trigger foods (gluten, corn products, etc.).

My plan is to go back to a very low carb diet. I plan on keeping the carbs I eat to stuff like brown rice. I also plan on eating a lot of salad, white meat, etc. It's the closest I can get, but it's not liquid so the biggest issue will be how hard it is for me to keep my caloric intake to an acceptable level.

Would soup work for you? I mean, you could make soup from the ingredients you mentioned.

 

[notalwaysweak]

I found the trick to remembering to take my pills was a combination of two things. The first thing is that I keep my pill box right by my computer, because I'm online every morning and every night.

The second thing was that when I missed a day (I'm on two anti-depressants, one anti-anxiety, one mood stabiliser, and echinacea), I couldn't sleep that night because I was hallucinating a woman screaming into my ear every time I put my head down on my pillow. It scared the shit out of me more than any decrease in mood and made me determined not to forget again.

I recommend the first as an idea for those of you having trouble remembering pills, but I definitely don't recommend the second!

 

[intothewoods]

Yeah, pretty much. I've monitored my food intake over the years, and truthfully I tend to err on the side of too LITTLE calories. (For example today I've had a couple of bites of pasta roni, a piece of bread and butter, and a piece of chicken to eat. Total.) Partly because I have very strong food aversions and would rather not eat than eat something on my ick list. I also don't have hunger pains, and sometimes eating makes me nauseous.

The diet the doctor wanted me on was low carb, high protein, low bad fat. Part of the reason it works is because it's not ONE shake or anything over and over, but most of it's liquid. Liquid diets work for me, because it's easy to digest and doesn't hurt me, so I get my calories for the day. It also didn't have any of my trigger foods (gluten, corn products, etc.).

My plan is to go back to a very low carb diet. I plan on keeping the carbs I eat to stuff like brown rice. I also plan on eating a lot of salad, white meat, etc. It's the closest I can get, but it's not liquid so the biggest issue will be how hard it is for me to keep my caloric intake to an acceptable level.

Sounds like the clean eating diet, which is fabulous - no sugar, emphasis on veggie and some fruits, no processed foods, small meals, lean meats and lowfat or nonfat dairy. It's not gluten free, but there are lots of gluten free clean recipes online.

 

[graceanne]

Would soup work for you? I mean, you could make soup from the ingredients you mentioned.

Well, it might. I love soup - I don't make it very often cause K's not so big on it. But I could make a lot in advance and just heat it up.

Things that make you go hm.

Sounds like the clean eating diet, which is fabulous - no sugar, emphasis on veggie and some fruits, no processed foods, small meals, lean meats and lowfat or nonfat dairy. It's not gluten free, but there are lots of gluten free clean recipes online.

Am I the only one who hasn't heard of this clean eating diet? lol I got an PM the other day from someone on lit directing me to their website, I'm planning on checking out their book and possibly getting it. Plus I bookmarked their recipe area.

Oh yeah - I'm lactose intolerant - no dairy. lol It doesn't bother me, but the smells I make on dairy really annoy my family.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Soup is so much fun to make, too. You can freeze it in serving sizes.

 

[graceanne]

Soup is so much fun to make, too. You can freeze it in serving sizes.

I was kinda thinking of picking up some small bowls with lids so that I can grab and go when I'm in a hurry. I normally spend my mornings at the kids school helping out, and they'll let me use their microwave and their fridge.

Cause I could do a really good chicken and rice soup - I already know how and it's really good. I also make a great beef stew, but no beef ... I wonder if I could put beef bouillon in a veggie stew and still keep to the parameters of my diet.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I was kinda thinking of picking up some small bowls with lids so that I can grab and go when I'm in a hurry. I normally spend my mornings at the kids school helping out, and they'll let me use their microwave and their fridge.

Cause I could do a really good chicken and rice soup - I already know how and it's really good. I also make a great beef stew, but no beef ... I wonder if I could put beef bouillon in a veggie stew and still keep to the parameters of my diet.

It depends on what part of the beef you can't eat... I sort of remember that the main flavoring in beef is uremic acid or something like that, and that's what people are often allergic to. Sorry to be so vague!