Thoughts on AI checkers

[millamomud]

Okay.

Okay.

 

[Bramblethorn]

I’m just saying we need to be realistic and stop treating it like some kind of elite club. AI should be seen as a positive. It has opened up opportunities for people to put their thoughts into writing, something many wouldn’t have done otherwise. That’s a good thing, IMO. I don’t understand why it’s being treated as something negative or wrong.

If people can write a prompt for an AI, then they were already capable of putting their own thoughts into writing. Whatever AI adds to the work isn't "their thoughts".

Meanwhile, genuine authors are finding it harder to get an audience - let alone a paying audience - because venues are drowning in AI slop: https://futurism.com/the-byte/editors-sci-fi-magazine-disgusted-ai-slop

 

[Bramblethorn]

Occasional reminder that much of the reason AI looks so inevitable is because people who are heavily invested in AI keep on hyping it with impressive-sounding announcements that keep on evaporating before money changes hands: https://www.wheresyoured.at/premium-how-much-of-the-ai-bubble-is-real/

Who here really believes that some of the richest guys in the world are pouring trillions of dollars into this tech with the intention of empowering individual creators and small businesses?

 

[AlexBailey]

Occasional reminder that much of the reason AI looks so inevitable is because people who are heavily invested in AI keep on hyping it with impressive-sounding announcements that keep on evaporating before money changes hands: https://www.wheresyoured.at/premium-how-much-of-the-ai-bubble-is-real/

The reason I see AI as inevitable and beyond market driven incentives is because it is a military tool. Unfortunately there don’t seem to be many limits on how much humanity will spend to have an advantage when it comes to killing or defense.

It is being used to decide what targets to hit in Iran. Supposedly AI was involved in targeting when the girls’ school was hit - and that’s being brushed off as collateral damage, so fucking up along the way is just par for the course.

Unfortunately writers. artists, and workers being put out by technology isn’t even a blip on the screen for the literal arms race. In this context AI writing is merely a side hustle to make a marketable product.

Since the tech will exist anyway, those “marketable products” don’t need to financially stand on their own, though I don’t doubt that many of them will.

Who here really believes that some of the richest guys in the world are pouring trillions of dollars into this tech with the intention of empowering individual creators and small businesses?

Meanwhile the richest guy in the world is making no secret that he’s dumping vast amounts of wealth into a project with nearly zero marketable value: going to mars.

That trillionaire’s plans include sending Ai driven androids, possibly starting next year, to build a colony for humans to inhabit decades from now.

He’s actively working on putting self sustaining server farms in orbit, so that goes beyond the issues of water and petroleum consumption. They already exist on some scale as part of Starlink.

He doesn’t give a fig about any sorts of artists.

 

[EmilyMiller]

The reason I see AI as inevitable and beyond market driven incentives is because it is a military tool. Unfortunately there doesn’t seem to be many limits on how much humanity will spend to have an advantage when it comes to killing or defense.

It is being used to decide what targets to hit in Iran. Supposedly AI was involved in targeting when the girls’ school was hit and that’s being brushed off as collateral damage, so fucking up along the way is just par for the course.

Unfortunately writers. artists, and workers being put out by technology isn’t even a blip on the screen for the literal arms race. In this context AI writing is merely a side hustle to make a marketable product.

Since the tech will exist anyway, those “marketable products” don’t need to financially stand on their own, though I don’t doubt that many of them will.



Meanwhile the richest guy in the world is making no secret that he’s dumping vast amounts of wealth into a project with nearly zero marketable value: going to mars.

That trillionaire’s plans include sending Ai driven androids, possibly starting next year. to build a colony for humans to inhabit decades from now.

He doesn’t give a fig about any sorts of artists.

This version of capitalism is totally broken, worse than the robber barons who at least had some shame and channeled it into public works. The idea behind capitalism is that it’s meant to benefit everyone, either directly, or via taxation which supports the least well off and manages public infrastructure. We’ve decided that making like twenty people obscenely rich is a better goal for humanity. Mostly as a result of Citizens United. But also due to ground work laid by the donor class long before that, dating back to the early 1980s. We have been played by the trillionaires for decades.

The problem is not so much left vs right (though that’s a lovely Orwellian distraction) it’s twenty men vs the rest of humanity.

 

[AlexBailey]

This version of capitalism is totally broken, worse than the robber barons who at least had some shame and channeled it into public works. The idea behind capitalism is that it’s meant to benefit everyone, either directly, or via taxation which supports the least well off and manages public infrastructure. We’ve decided that making like twenty people obscenely rich is a better goal for humanity. Mostly as a result of Citizens United. But also due to ground work laid by the donor class long before that, dating back to the early 1980s. We have been played by the trillionaires for decades.

The problem is not so much left vs right (though that’s a lovely Orwellian distraction) it’s twenty men vs the rest of humanity.

I full agree with everything you said here.

Unfortunately, we live in a world where it seems about half of humanity doesn’t believe in a collectivism that prioritizes doing things that are good for the general population.

 

[EmilyMiller]

I full agree with everything you said here.

Unfortunately, we live in a world where it seems about half of humanity doesn’t believe in a collectivism that prioritizes doing things that are good for the general population.

That half of humanity is being played by said twenty trillionaires. I have hopes that it is becoming more and more obvious that this is happening.

 

[AlexBailey]

That half of humanity is being played by said twenty trillionaires. I have hopes that it is becoming more and more obvious that this is happening.

We live in a world that’s looking more like Ray Bradbury’s Fahrenheit 451 then like the visions in Andrew Carnegie’s Gospel of Wealth.

 

[Baztrachian]

Just came across this over on Tumblr...

 

[Baztrachian]

"Meanwhile the richest guy in the world is making no secret that he’s dumping vast amounts of wealth into a project with nearly zero marketable value: going to mars."

There was a time when a small, impoverished country had just won a centuries-long war and the queen went against every wise and sage wisdom to finance a journey of exploration. A journey that returned vast riches and set that country on a path to becoming a global superpower.

Spain. Queen Isabella. 1492. Christopher Columbus.

The point being that whatever riches (or not) that might await humanity on other planets won't be discovered at all unless someone ponies up the money to pay for the journey.

 

[SkyBubble]

An excellent and highly practical strategy: when nothing is certain, use what tools with proven merit are available. Which is exactly what I advised 6 weeks ago:
https://forum.literotica.com/thread...-story-anymore.1648707/page-12#post-102275280

Nearly impossible to use.

 

[SkyBubble]

Just came across this over on Tumblr...

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It does the same thing to Shakespeare. Try any of his famous speeches.

 

[AlexBailey]

It does the same thing to Shakespeare. Try any of his famous speeches.

Part of the reason it does that is because those classic pieces of literature were used for training data, so naturally they come back as “the next most likely word” and style.

AI can do a good impression of Hemingway’s minimalist prose now too - and it will report his original works as 100% AI.

 

[SkyBubble]

The idea behind capitalism is that it’s meant to benefit everyone

And that's what it does, until "reformers" decide they can do it better. As the old saying goes, a rising tide lifts all boats.

 

[SkyBubble]

Unfortunately, we live in a world where it seems about half of humanity doesn’t believe in a collectivism that prioritizes doing things that are good for the general population.

And who gets to decide that?

 

[AlexBailey]

And who gets to decide that?

As far as I know each human gets to decide what they themselves believe.

 

[SkyBubble]

As far as I know each human gets to decide what they themselves believe.

Who gets to decide what's "good for the general population"?

 

[AlexBailey]

Who gets to decide what's "good for the general population"?

The general population.

 

[SkyBubble]

People decide individually and the sum of their actions is what we call "the public interest" but collectivists think they determine that and they think they should force it on everyone because it's "the public good." Even if the public doesn't agree.

 

[AlexBailey]

People decide individually and the sum of their actions is what we call "the public interest" but collectivists think they determine that and they think they should force it on everyone because it's "the public good." Even if the public doesn't agree.

Take it to the politics board.

 

[StillStunned]

People always complain about AI checkers, but we've been playing AI chess computers for decades. Are all those chess players vindicated for feeling slightly better than people who play checkers?

 

[EmilyMiller]

People decide individually and the sum of their actions is what we call "the public interest" but collectivists think they determine that and they think they should force it on everyone because it's "the public good." Even if the public doesn't agree.

I was making a general, apolitical point (here and elsewhere I’ve said it transcends left and right). Please don’t turn this into politics. Thank you,

 

[SmilingLez]

I was making a general, apolitical point (here and elsewhere I’ve said it transcends left and right). Please don’t turn this into politics. Thank you,

Politics is the current go-to garbage when someone's got nothing worthwhile to contribute

 

[MetaBob]

Nearly impossible to use.

Really easy to use, actually.

 

[SkyBubble]

Really easy to use, actually.

That wasn't my experience of it.