Uncrossing The Rubicon.

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That ^ is magical thinking / naivety:

• DonOld & the MAGAt republicans have participated in the ASSASSINATION OF THE AYATOLLAH, ETC.

• DonOld & the MAGAt republicans FAILED in their goal of regime change.

• This "new", MORE radical, MORE hardline Iranian regime is poised to be enriched beyond anything we have ever seen before.

• Iran, under a poorer, LESS radical, LESS hardline regime greenlighted the 10/7 attack on Israel after DonOld & the MAGAt republicans ASSASSINATED IRAN’S NATIONAL HERO, etc.

• This "new", enriched, MORE radical, MORE hardline Iranian regime has LEARNED from this conflict how to prosecute a war in its backyard and inflict catastrophic damage (primarily economically) FAR beyond its borders while employing / committing minimal resources to the "fight".

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The facts in evidence suggest that this "new", enriched, MORE radical, MORE hardline Iranian regime MUST be eliminated, and ACTUAL regime change MUST be realized - NOW.

If ACTUAL regime change doesn’t happen in Iran VERY soon, the "new", enriched, MORE radical, MORE hardline Iranian regime will be firmly established / entrenched, and a terrorist attack orders of magnitude worse than 9/11 or 10/7 is inevitable in the not too distant future (likely under a different administration, where DonOld & the MAGA republicans will deny any responsibility).

And the NECESSARY (after DonOld’s WAR of choice) ACTUAL regime change effort should take place under THIS CURRENT administration, as they were the ones who initiated this clusterfuck: DonOld & the MAGAt republicans need to be made to OWN their mess - and clean it up.

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To those ("the left" AND the right) who feel we (America) can just proceed like THE ASSASSINATION OF THE AYATOLLAH, ETC was / is no big deal, and the new, enriched, MORE radical, MORE hardline Iranian regime is going to forgive & forget because they got some sanctions relief and a $300 BILLION windfall, I say: you are naive beyond belief. Magical thinking is NOT going to save us (America). A proactive approach (ACTUAL regime change) NOW is the ONLY thing that will avert a terror attack authored by Iran that is orders of magnitude worse that 9/11 & 10/7.

The ASSASSINATION OF RHE AYATOLLAH, etc should NEVER have occurred (See also: The ASSASSINATION OF IRAN’S NATIOMAL HERO )- but NOW it is what it is:

Again: DonOld & the MAGAt republicans need to OWN their fuckup and DEAL with it NOW.

🤬

And, of course, SOME of the above is based on IF the TCPOA (Trump Capitulation Plan Of Appeasement) ACTUALLY goes into effect.

😑

WE. TOLD. THEM. SO.

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How do you suggest they force regime change?
 
That ^ is magical thinking / naivety:

• DonOld & the MAGAt republicans have participated in the ASSASSINATION OF THE AYATOLLAH, ETC.

• DonOld & the MAGAt republicans FAILED in their goal of regime change.

• This "new", MORE radical, MORE hardline Iranian regime is poised to be enriched beyond anything we have ever seen before.

• Iran, under a poorer, LESS radical, LESS hardline regime greenlighted the 10/7 attack on Israel after DonOld & the MAGAt republicans ASSASSINATED IRAN’S NATIONAL HERO, etc.

• This "new", enriched, MORE radical, MORE hardline Iranian regime has LEARNED from this conflict how to prosecute a war in its backyard and inflict catastrophic damage (primarily economically) FAR beyond its borders while employing / committing minimal resources to the "fight".

😳

The facts in evidence suggest that this "new", enriched, MORE radical, MORE hardline Iranian regime MUST be eliminated, and genuine regime change MUST be realized - NOW.

If ACTUAL regime change doesn’t happen in Iran VERY soon, the "new", enriched, MORE radical, MORE hardline Iranian regime will be firmly established / entrenched, and a terrorist attack orders of magnitude worse than 9/11 or 10/7 is inevitable in the not too distant future (likely under a different administration, where DonOld & the MAGA republicans will deny any responsibility).

And the NECESSARY (after DonOld’s WAR of choice) ACTUAL regime change effort should take place under THIS CURRENT administration, as they were the ones who initiated this clusterfuck: DonOld & the MAGAt republicans need to be made to OWN their mess - and clean it up.

👍

To those ("the left" AND the right) who feel we (America) can just proceed like THE ASSASSINATION OF THE AYATOLLAH, ETC was / is no big deal, and the new, enriched, MORE radical, MORE hardline Iranian regime is going to forgive & forget because they got some sanctions relief and a $300 BILLION windfall, I say: you are naive beyond belief. Magical thinking is NOT going to save us (America). A proactive approach (ACTUAL regime change) NOW is the ONLY thing that will avert a terror attack authored by Iran that is orders of magnitude worse that 9/11 & 10/7.

The ASSASSINATION OF RHE AYATOLLAH, etc should NEVER have occurred (See also: The ASSASSINATION OF IRAN’S NATIOMAL HERO )- but NOW it is what it is:

Again: DonOld & the MAGAt republicans need to OWN their fuckup and DEAL with it NOW.

🤬

And, of course, SOME of the above is based on IF the TCPOA (Trump Capitulation Plan Of Appeasement) ACTUALLY goes into effect.

😑

WE. TOLD. THEM. SO.

🌷
The obvious ramblings of a TDS infected brain. :)
 
Is there a quote where Trump ever said regime change was the goal. If you can't come up with a direct quote then you're a lying piece of shit......................but we already knew that.
 
"Some people" are slow to comprehend the gist of this thread:

• DonOld & the MAGAt republicans FAILED to game-plan their WAR.

• DonOld & the MAGAt republicans FAILED to execute their FAILED game-plan.

• DonOld & the MAGAt republicans FAILED to secure an "UNCONSTITUTIONAL SURRENDER!!!" from Iran / "REGIME CHANGE!!!".

• DonOld & the MAGAt republicans tore up the JCPOA AND ASSASSINATED IRAN’S NATIONAL HERO & THE AYATOLLAH, ETC, and all we got was this lousy 10/7 and this lousy TCPOA (Trump Capitulation Plan Of Appeasement).

• "NOTHING CAN STOP WHAT’S COMING!!!".

😳 😑 🤣 🤬

We. Told. Them. So.

🌷
 
"Some people" are slow to comprehend the gist of this thread:

• DonOld & the MAGAt republicans FAILED to game-plan their WAR.

• DonOld & the MAGAt republicans FAILED to execute their FAILED game-plan.

• DonOld & the MAGAt republicans FAILED to secure an "UNCONSTITUTIONAL SURRENDER!!!" from Iran / "REGIME CHANGE!!!".

• DonOld & the MAGAt republicans tore up the JCPOA AND ASSASSINATED IRAN’S NATIONAL HERO & THE AYATOLLAH, ETC, and all we got was this lousy 10/7 and this lousy TCPOA (Trump Capitulation Plan Of Appeasement).

• "NOTHING CAN STOP WHAT’S COMING!!!".

😳 😑 🤣 🤬

We. Told. Them. So.

🌷
So this thread is just another dear leader failed thread.

Got it.
 
Is there a quote where Trump ever said regime change was the goal. If you can't come up with a direct quote then you're a lying piece of shit......................but we already knew that.

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https://abcnews.com/Politics/trump-new-call-regime-change-iran-justified-imminent/story?id=130629024

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Search Assist

Yes, Trump has stated that regime change in Iran would be "the best thing that could happen," indicating his support for replacing the Iranian government.
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/ip3/www.bbc.com.ico BBChttps://external-content.duckduckgo.com/ip3/news.wttw.com.ico WTTW

Trump's Goals in the Iran War​

Support for Regime Change​

Yes, Trump has expressed that regime change in Iran would be "the best thing that could happen." This statement reflects his administration's support for replacing the Iranian government as part of its broader military objectives.

Objectives of the Conflict​

The Trump administration's goals in the Iran war have evolved, but they include:
  • Destabilizing the Iranian regime: Efforts to weaken the current government through military strikes and leadership assassinations.
  • Encouraging internal uprisings: The administration has aimed to galvanize the Iranian opposition to instigate protests and rebellion against the government.
  • Degrading military capabilities: This includes targeting Iran's nuclear program and missile capabilities to prevent future threats.
These objectives align with the administration's strategy to impose significant pressure on Iran, ultimately seeking a change in its leadership.
https://duckduckgo.com/assets/icons/favicons/wikipedia.3x.png Wikipediahttps://external-content.duckduckgo.com/ip3/globalaffairs.org.ico globalaffairs.org

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Hope that ^ helps, Racist5soul aka Shit4brains.

👍

🇺🇸

We. Told. Them. So.

🌷
 
"Some people" FAIL to realize that DonOld & the MAGAt republicans’ FAILURES are going to have long lasting consequences (See also: The Hamas 10/7 attack YEARS after DonOld & the MAGAt republicans ASSASSINATED IRAN’S NATIONAL HERO).

DonOld & the MAGAt republicans are in the process of leaving ANOTHER mess for a future administration.

😳 😑 🤬

Hope that ^ helps.

👍

👉 "Some people" 🤣

🇺🇸

We. Told. Them. So.

🌷
 
Is there a quote where Trump ever said regime change was the goal. If you can't come up with a direct quote then you're a lying piece of shit......................but we already knew that.
On Sunday night, for example, during a Q&A with reporters on Air Force One, he declared, “We’ve had regime change.”

Pressed on the point, he added, “We’re dealing with different people than anybody’s dealt with before. It’s a whole different group of people. So I would consider that regime change.”

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The above is from the announcement day of the senile felon being talked into bombing Iran for Israel.

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You're going to pick fly shit out of pepper but you'd just prove yourself to be an even bigger idiot, shit for brains.
 
I think a regime change in Iran would be a great outcome, especially some form of democracy. Not having nukes is cool too. :)
Unfortunately Donald Trump’s bungling has made the possibility of a democratic, nuke-free Iran much less likely. ☹️
 
• This "new", MORE radical, MORE hardline Iranian regime is poised to be enriched beyond anything w
The facts in evidence suggest that this "new", enriched, MORE radical, MORE hardline Iranian regime MUST be eliminated, and ACTUAL regime change MUST be realized - NOW.

If ACTUAL regime change doesn’t happen in Iran VERY soon, the "new", enriched, MORE radical, MORE hardline Iranian regime will be firmly established / entrenched, and a terrorist attack orders of magnitude worse than 9/11 or 10/7 is inevitable in the not too distant future (likely under a different administration, where DonOld & the MAGA republicans will deny any responsibility).

And the NECESSARY (after DonOld’s WAR of choice) ACTUAL regime change effort should take place under THIS CURRENT administration, as they were the ones who initiated this clusterfuck: DonOld & the MAGAt republicans need to be made to OWN their mess - and clean it up.

👍

To those ("the left" AND the right) who feel we (America) can just proceed like THE ASSASSINATION OF THE AYATOLLAH, ETC was / is no big deal, and the new, enriched, MORE radical, MORE hardline Iranian regime is going to forgive & forget because they got some sanctions relief and a $300 BILLION windfall, I say: you are naive beyond belief. Magical thinking is NOT going to save us (America). A proactive approach (ACTUAL regime change) NOW is the ONLY thing that will avert a terror attack authored by Iran that is orders of magnitude worse that 9/11 & 10/7.

The ASSASSINATION OF RHE AYATOLLAH, etc should NEVER have occurred (See also: The ASSASSINATION OF IRAN’S NATIOMAL HERO )- but NOW it is what it is:

Again: DonOld & the MAGAt republicans need to OWN their fuckup and DEAL with it NOW.

🤬

And, of course, SOME of the above is based on IF the TCPOA (Trump Capitulation Plan Of Appeasement) ACTUALLY goes into effect.
^^^This is crazy talk. Regime change? How? Pursue the Netanyahu tactics and bomb Tehran into the stone age? Send in ground troops? Kill, kill, kill?

The Pig fucked up. I agree with the G7 nations, don't fuck it up more.
 
On Sunday night, for example, during a Q&A with reporters on Air Force One, he declared, “We’ve had regime change.”

Pressed on the point, he added, “We’re dealing with different people than anybody’s dealt with before. It’s a whole different group of people. So I would consider that regime change.”

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The above is from the announcement day of the senile felon being talked into bombing Iran for Israel.

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You're going to pick fly shit out of pepper but you'd just prove yourself to be an even bigger idiot, shit for brains.

In all fairness to Racist5soul aka Shit4brains, DonOld WAS changing the rationale / goals of the “special military operation” so often at the beginning of the WAR that there was NEVER A CHANCE that a low-intelligence, low-information, low-attention-span MAGAt like Racist5soul aka Shit4brains would be able to keep pace with DonOld’s various stated rationales / goals - one of which (a main one) WAS regime change.

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👉 Racist5soul aka Shit4brains 🤣

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We. Told. Them. So.

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This scenario bears absolutely no resemblance to Caesar's crossing the Rubicon. Nice, but stupid try.
 
Giving Iran billions of dollars and control of the Strait of Hormuz was a loss. The brutal repression of the Iranian people continues apace. The war accomplished nothing.
Now you can see the future. You're wasting your time here. :)
 
Giving Iran billions of dollars and control of the Strait of Hormuz was a loss. The brutal repression of the Iranian people continues apace. The war accomplished nothing.

It is “a loss” that needs to be rectified.

It will never be “a win”, but something may be able to be salvaged with a renewed (and competent, well thought out & resourced) effort at ACTUAL regime change in Iran.

Iraq would be a blueprint: That was another poorly thought out & resourced REPUBLICAN clusterfuck that was salvaged to a certain extent. But that required ACTUAL regime change.

😑

We. Told. Them. So.

🌷
 
This scenario bears absolutely no resemblance to Caesar's crossing the Rubicon. Nice, but stupid try.

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Search Assist

"Crossing the Rubicon" means to reach a point of no return, where one must face the consequences of their actions. This phrase originates from Julius Caesar's decision to cross the Rubicon River in 49 BC, which led to a civil war in Rome.

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MAGAt91364 still won’t “get it”…

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👉 MAGAt91364 🤣

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We. Told. Them. So.

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Unfortunately Donald Trump’s bungling has made the possibility of a democratic, nuke-free Iran much less likely. ☹️
President Pig was following Netanyahu's lead. The Pig wanted to get in on what he thought was a slam dunk "victory". He wanted to get in on the glory.

Following Netanyahu's lead was a huge mistake. Netanyahu groomed the Pig, stiffed Obama, and played the GOP against the Democrats.

Like the Pig's other big mistakes, the USA will be dealing with the consequences for a long time.
 
^^^This is crazy talk. Regime change? How? Pursue the Netanyahu tactics and bomb Tehran into the stone age? Send in ground troops? Kill, kill, kill?

The Pig fucked up. I agree with the G7 nations, don't fuck it up more.

🙄

My post stands as written.

If you believe that the "new" regime in Iran is going to just forgive & forget the grievous insults & injuries inflicted by America (DonOld & the MAGAt republicans, really) and direct that $300 BILLION into purely peaceful endeavors, then my post was PARTIALLY written for you (there WERE / ARE less obvious points being made in the OP).

Keep thinking magical thoughts.

👍

🇺🇸

We. Told. Them. So.

🌷
 
It is “a loss” that needs to be rectified.

It will never be “a win”, but something may be able to be salvaged with a renewed (and competent, well thought out & resourced) effort at ACTUAL regime change in Iran.

Iraq would be a blueprint: That was another poorly thought out & resourced REPUBLICAN clusterfuck that was salvaged to a certain extent. But that required ACTUAL regime change.

😑

We. Told. Them. So.

🌷
When you're trapped in a hole, don't keep digging. The last thing we need right now is GOP hawks foolishly sinking us deeper in a quagmire
 
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