"Vanilla Wife Syndrome"

[girlsmiley]

I reacted to the judgmental tone in your post, too.

It might have had something to do with the CAPITOLS, and the repeated use of the word slut. That last line, when you slash "slut" with "abuser" maybe.

Maybe??? Stella...

Again.

I would think MYSELF a slut if I slept with a man. But I think it's pathetic that a man (who is married to a woman that he allegedly loves) would call himself a bisexual just because he wants to have sex with another man

Not a judgement. An observation.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Maybe??? Stella...

Again.

I would think MYSELF a slut if I slept with a man. But I think it's pathetic that a man (who is married to a woman that he allegedly loves) would call himself a bisexual just because he wants to have sex with another man

Not a judgement. An observation.

Words like "slut" "pathetic" and "just because" are judgement words, not observation words. You can judge yourself, if you wish. You can't really judge anyone else.

And by the way... you DO know this is a porn forum, right? The people who come here are looking for stroke, by and large. If you get upset and butthurt about every crass thing horney people come here to say-- you've got a lot of butthurt coming your way.

Try to get past it, if you can.

 

[girlsmiley]

Wait, What?

You can judge yourself, if you wish
Thanks. Haha.

You can't really judge anyone else
mhmm.

If you get upset and butthurt about every crass thing horney people come here to say--You've got a lot of butthurt coming your way
Seriously, Stella? Haha! Sometimes I get annoyed but never upset.
"You won't like me when I'm angry"

Try and get past it, if you can.
I'll try. What am I getting past?

 

[Stella_Omega]

Hmm. Nope, not playing that game with you.

 

[all_the_goodies]

Why is everyone so upset with this man? Who cares if you don't like what he has said.. you can just walk away?

I dont think cheating is ok. But if others do it, its not my job or right to judge them.

Besides I really think the OP was just looking for like minded people and I hope he can find friends or someone he can open up to and talk about his issues, wither that is his wife or someone on here..

EITHER WAY GOOD LUCK!

 

[girlsmiley]

Hmm. Nope, not playing that game with you.

I wasn't expecting a reply, Stella

 

[Safe_Bet]

I reacted to the judgmental tone in your post, too.

It might have had something to do with the CAPITOLS, and the repeated use of the word slut. That last line, when you slash "slut" with "abuser" maybe.

No more than I do when I read concending shit like "her right to express her ignorance and intolerance" because she dared express an opinion that differs from the propaganda that the "everybody is bi" crowd is trying to push out.

Just because some of us think sleeping with a man or sleeping with a woman who doesnt give us the courtesy of letting us know she is going to get up from our beds to go fuck some dude is disgusting doesn't give the peeps that think this is fine the right to attack us. THAT seems to be uber judgmental to me.

P.S. Rock on, Girlysmiles!

 

[Stella_Omega]

No more than I do when I read concending shit like "her right to express her ignorance and intolerance" because she dared express an opinion that differs from the propaganda that the "everybody is bi" crowd is trying to push out.

Just because some of us think sleeping with a man or sleeping with a woman who doesnt give us the courtesy of letting us know she is going to get up from our beds to go fuck some dude is disgusting doesn't give the peeps that think this is fine the right to attack us. THAT seems to be uber judgmental to me.

P.S. Rock on, Girlysmiles!

Your statement is a lot more specific than hers was. And also, I already knew you'd share her opinion

Again... this IS a porn site. The people who post here, by and large, are here because of the pron. That means that the crowd will be a bit more forgiving of certain behaviors-- and that's why they are here and not elsewhere.

I have said, often, that lesbian women often have completely different comfort levels than gay men do, a completely different cutture and mores concerning sex. I don't like the GLBT umbrella. It shoves groups together, willy-nilly, that shouldn't have to be shoved together at all times. I'm all for diversity and tolerance-- and also, personal space.

 

[blade_rocknut]

Holy shit, what a threadjacking.

Am I looking for satisfaction with another man? No. Is my wife vanilla? Not really. I do, however know people who DO suffer from it....and I mean SUFFER!
It is concievable that plenty of folk who may already have some non-straight tendencies would rather seek satisfaction with a same sex partner to appease the inherent guilt of "cheating" on their spouse.

I do feel this thread belongs here; as it addresses a reason for curious individuals (looking from both men's and women's sides here) to admit to and / or explore their curiosities of bisexuality. It's not a fetish thread.

 

[girlsmiley]

No more than I do when I read concending shit like "her right to express her ignorance and intolerance" because she dared express an opinion that differs from the propaganda that the "everybody is bi" crowd is trying to push out.

Just because some of us think sleeping with a man or sleeping with a woman who doesnt give us the courtesy of letting us know she is going to get up from our beds to go fuck some dude is disgusting doesn't give the peeps that think this is fine the right to attack us. THAT seems to be uber judgmental to me.

P.S. Rock on, Girlysmiles!

Exactly. They accuse me of being ignorant, intolerant and judgemental because I don't and will not subscribe to that way of thinking. It does get annoying.

But I'm fucking awesome and so are you SB.

 

[ifitsfundoit]

Poor old OP popped in to ask a simple question. My guess is that all he wanted was a little help dealing with his own demons. He's only written a few posts. He's not one of the regulars. He's the new guy for fuck's sake.

Those who chose to shoot him down or criticize because they didn't like where he posted a question or the question itself should be ashamed of themselves, if their hubris will allow it.

GLTB Chatter is listed in the forums with this description "Discussion of non-straight sexuality and life. Find support and friends."

Sorry, very few friends and certainly no support in here.

 

[LeatherChaps]

Exactly. They accuse me of being ignorant, intolerant and judgemental because I don't and will not subscribe to that way of thinking. It does get annoying.

This sounds like its straight out of the mouth of Jerry Falwell.

 

[jackstud]

This sounds like its straight out of the mouth of Jerry Falwell.

I got something for Falwells mouth

 

[Stella_Omega]

I got something for Falwells mouth

Make sure you get his dentures out first. He'll bite.

 

[girlsmiley]

This sounds like its straight out of the mouth of Jerry Falwell.

Haha!
You're going to have to do a lot better than that, chapstick.

We're not all bisexual.

I'm a lesbian.

I don't believe that if I fucked a man that I would be a bisexual because deep down I would just be using his body. I would still be a lesbian. I'm not attracted to men. Hypothetically speaking, the man (cock) in that relationship would be as noteworthy to me as a dildo. Almost zero significance.

Just like Pirate Guy who has no love and is not attracted to men. He would just be using his cock, which makes me believe his is not bisexual and it's just a fetish.

I MYSELF will not wave a bisexual flag because I don't fall under that category and I never will, even though I have fucked men in the past.

Capiche?

 

[Stella_Omega]

Yes, for crissake, everyone capiches. You ARE a lesbian. There's absolutely no question about it. Never was. Never will be.

And yes, you are awesome.

Judgmental, and awesome.

 

[girlsmiley]

Yes, for crissake, everyone capiches. You ARE a lesbian. There's absolutely no question about it. Never was. Never will be.

And yes, you are awesome.

Judgmental, and awesome.

Whatever floats your boat, Stella
You have your way of thinking and I have mine
Have a great day

 

[Safe_Bet]

Yes, for crissake, everyone capiches. You ARE a lesbian. There's absolutely no question about it. Never was. Never will be.

And yes, you are awesome.

Judgmental, and awesome.

Yup. I guess you are right she is being judgmental. You know what? That's okay too because she's using her judgment to determine that anyone who would accuse her of being a fundie, bigoted, hate-monger like Jerry F. just because she disagrees with his "because I have a fetish for a piece of flesh that makes me bi" propaganda.

I guess that also makes me judgmental as well because I believe that being attracted/turned on by a "thing" or an "object" vs. a person is the textbook definition of a fetish.

 

[Safe_Bet]

P.S. That doesn't mean there is anything wrong with fetishes. (I've personally got a bunch). It just means you don't get to redefine terms to fit you personal biases.

 

[blade_rocknut]

At least the thread is popular....even if recent posts have *nothing at all* to do with the topic of the first post....

 

[lustatopia]

This really is the thread that won't die, isn't it?

Which, goes to show that Safe-bet's original complaint that this thread was off-topic for the GLBT board was definitely wrong. Although, ironically, it was Safe-bet's howling complaints that made this thread on-topic. We obviously do need a good discussion on exactly how bisexual fits into the Alt sexuality spectrum.

Bisexuality is that subtle gradation of sexual identity as it fades from totally Gay to totally Straight. I believe that ultimately bisexuality will someday be recognized as being far more common then gender-exclusive sexuality, even while most active relationship will remain couples, MF, FF and MM. I can imagine a time in about 10 to 20 years after the great age of sexuality transmitted diseases is over and culture is beyond sexual authoritarianism where most teenagers will spend their sexually formative years experiment with both sexes and with various combination thereof, until they reach their own personal sexual preferences which meet their individual emotional and physical needs.

I believe this kind of sexual identity "chaos" where everyone is free to do whatever, might be the subconscious fear that Safe-bet's irrational anger represents and is the subtext for the whole debate. Bisexuals may be today's oppressed minority but they must tread with a special sense of compassion and inclusiveness knowing that modern cultural evolution is trending towards sexuality as a non-gender-specific palette of desire rather than any kind of absolutism.

Our dominant heterosexual society once exiled anyone upon their first same-sex encounter from mainstream het culture and into the arms of gay culture. Meanwhile, the gay scene tended to declare it was all or nothing as well, because it was an age of Gay identity assertiveness to compensate their exclusion from mainstream society.

Perhaps the majority of people who have a queer sexuality are gender exclusive in part because the authoritarianism of the two cultural modes, Straight and Gay, have tended to narrowly channel sexuality limiting the options for contact outside their respective tribes.

Yet today in our modern, digitally network world, being Gay or Straight as an identity is no longer a life changing tribal decision. We are free to move back and forth depending on who we develop a love for at the moment. I suspect that some people who have invested tragically in a sexual identity that they were culturally channelled into by forces that are now in decline will react to our new boundless sexual freedom of this century with frustration. The old boundary walls that safely pigeonholed people into their cages are no longer there. It must be a confusing place, this new world.

Perhaps this is why safe-bet's angry diatribes resemble more than anything else social conservative arguments against Gay marriage. Bisexuality ruins the cultural pureness of the gay scene by introducing heretical elements of heterosexual passion, just as gay marriage somehow degrades the meaning of marriage to social conservatives.

By now in this thread, Safe-bet is relying soley on Red Herrings. No one here is arguing that bisexuals who cheat or abuse others have any right to do so. No more Gay or Straight people have the right to use and abuse others in sexual relationships.

 

[Cabeza]

This really is the thread that won't die, isn't it?

Which, goes to show that Safe-bet's original complaint that this thread was off-topic for the GLBT board was definitely wrong. Although, ironically, it was Safe-bet's howling complaints that made this thread on-topic. We obviously do need a good discussion on exactly how bisexual fits into the Alt sexuality spectrum.

Bisexuality is that subtle gradation of sexual identity as it fades from totally Gay to totally Straight. I believe that ultimately bisexuality will someday be recognized as being far more common then gender-exclusive sexuality, even while most active relationship will remain couples, MF, FF and MM. I can imagine a time in about 10 to 20 years after the great age of sexuality transmitted diseases is over and culture is beyond sexual authoritarianism where most teenagers will spend their sexually formative years experiment with both sexes and with various combination thereof, until they reach their own personal sexual preferences which meet their individual emotional and physical needs.

I believe this kind of sexual identity "chaos" where everyone is free to do whatever, might be the subconscious fear that Safe-bet's irrational anger represents and is the subtext for the whole debate. Bisexuals may be today's oppressed minority but they must tread with a special sense of compassion and inclusiveness knowing that modern cultural evolution is trending towards sexuality as a non-gender-specific palette of desire rather than any kind of absolutism.

Our dominant heterosexual society once exiled anyone upon their first same-sex encounter from mainstream het culture and into the arms of gay culture. Meanwhile, the gay scene tended to declare it was all or nothing as well, because it was an age of Gay identity assertiveness to compensate their exclusion from mainstream society.

Perhaps the majority of people who have a queer sexuality are gender exclusive in part because the authoritarianism of the two cultural modes, Straight and Gay, have tended to narrowly channel sexuality limiting the options for contact outside their respective tribes.

Yet today in our modern, digitally network world, being Gay or Straight as an identity is no longer a life changing tribal decision. We are free to move back and forth depending on who we develop a love for at the moment. I suspect that some people who have invested tragically in a sexual identity that they were culturally channelled into by forces that are now in decline will react to our new boundless sexual freedom of this century with frustration. The old boundary walls that safely pigeonholed people into their cages are no longer there. It must be a confusing place, this new world.

Perhaps this is why safe-bet's angry diatribes resemble more than anything else social conservative arguments against Gay marriage. Bisexuality ruins the cultural pureness of the gay scene by introducing heretical elements of heterosexual passion, just as gay marriage somehow degrades the meaning of marriage to social conservatives.

By now in this thread, Safe-bet is relying soley on Red Herrings. No one here is arguing that bisexuals who cheat or abuse others have any right to do so. No more Gay or Straight people have the right to use and abuse others in sexual relationships.

I didn't bother reading the rest of the thread after the first few posts; but this is a great post!

 

[lustatopia]

Haha!
You're going to have to do a lot better than that, chapstick.

We're not all bisexual.

I'm a lesbian.

I don't believe that if I fucked a man that I would be a bisexual because deep down I would just be using his body. I would still be a lesbian. I'm not attracted to men. Hypothetically speaking, the man (cock) in that relationship would be as noteworthy to me as a dildo. Almost zero significance.

Just like Pirate Guy who has no love and is not attracted to men. He would just be using his cock, which makes me believe his is not bisexual and it's just a fetish.

I MYSELF will not wave a bisexual flag because I don't fall under that category and I never will, even though I have fucked men in the past.

Capiche?

Something smells wrong with this logic.

If you fucked a man you would be just using a man's body to get off? And somehow to you that's not the most basic definition of sex?

That's a pretty confused sexuality. Interesting how you talk about "fucking" men and then insisted that unless "love" and holistic attractions are involved it's just a fetish. Yet fucking is just fucking.

Then you admit that you have fucked men in the past, but fail to see that makes the sum of our life's sexual experience bisexual, even if your current identity is Lesbian?

This is why it is so cognitively delusional to make absolutist identity claims about sexuality. No, we are not all bisexuals, that is true. But I doubt if a single one of us can honestly claim not to have had a bisexual fantasy or thought or even crossed over to the other side to try the real thing.

To declare that Pirate Guy who is struggling to come to grips with his bisexual desires is nothing but a fetish for human dildos seems to be some kind of psychological defensive mechanism, because it's not a rational response to the situation.

 

[girlsmiley]

Bisexuality is that subtle gradation of sexual identity as it fades from totally Gay to totally Straight.
Wrong. I've always been totally gay. I had sex with guys but always knew I was a lesbian. I've never been bisexual. Get over it

and culture is beyond sexual authoritarianism where most teenagers will spend their sexually formative years experiment with both sexes and with various combination thereof,

The only combinations are mm mf ff...


until they reach their own personal sexual preferences which meet their individual emotional and physical needs.
Again, I've always been gay. Known and experienced before I'd hit double digits.


I believe this kind of sexual identity "chaos" where everyone is free to do whatever, might be the subconscious fear that Safe-bet's irrational anger
Fear? Nice bait. Nice.


represents and is the subtext for the whole debate. Bisexuals may be today's oppressed minority
Haha! Fuck off!


I suspect that some people who have invested tragically in a sexual identity that they were culturally channelled into by forces that are now in decline will react to our new boundless sexual freedom of this century with frustration. The old boundary walls that safely pigeonholed people into their cages are no longer there. It must be a confusing place, this new world.
What a fucken load of shit lol

Bisexuality ruins the cultural pureness of the gay scene by introducing heretical elements of heterosexual passion, just as gay marriage somehow degrades the meaning of marriage to social conservatives.


What the fuck? TROLL.
This is funniest, most ridiculous shit I've seen on literotica.

Hands down.

 

[girlsmiley]

This part made me


"I suspect that some people who have invested tragically in a sexual identity that they were culturally channelled into by forces that are now in decline will react to our new boundless sexual freedom of this century with frustration. The old boundary walls that safely pigeonholed people into their cages are no longer there. It must be a confusing place, this new world. "

Are you going to sing now?