"Vanilla Wife Syndrome"

[Safe_Bet]

Undskyld, men jeg tror der er et hak i din plade, fordi De gentager dem selv. Og jeg har vist forklaret før, at jeg er ikke racistisk anlagt og min gamle nu slettede titel som jeg brugte er lagt bag mig. men det ser ud til at De som den eneste person stadig hentyder til den. Og jeg går ud fra, at De ser det som en torn i øjet på dig. Men nuvel at undgå personer er til tider jo godt nok, men selv den mest irriterende og dybt agressive person kan til tider have noget godt og klogt at sige, men jeg tvivler en hel del på De er i et særligt godt sted . Når dine udtalelser bunder på ting som ikke hænger sammen med virkeligheden. Og i det du kalder mig en racist med blå øjne, så kan jeg kun sige. Jeg kunne lige så godt have grønne eller brune, eller for den sags grå, eller en blanding af sort og rød, men nå ja du har ret jeg har blå øjne, men jeg stemmer ikke på de partier som jeg anser som racistiske eller xenofobiske, såsom Dansk Folke Parti. Eller det som er værre. Jeg stemmer derimod socialt og ikke borgerligt. Så nej, jeg er ikke racist. Og jeg kan ikke se ideen med at blive anset som en.

Way to answer a question, dude!

What? Are we practicing our native languages, instead?

If so, then here's my contribution for you: Vaffanculo!

 

[Wolfman1982]

Way to answer a question, dude!

What? Are we practicing our native languages, instead?

If so, then here's my contribution for you: Vaffanculo!

Jeg har ikke fornærmet dig på det danske sprog, og jeg har ingen ide hvorfor jeg skulle fornærme dig. Men det beviser kun en ting, at bruge hovedet til andet end de såkaldte beskidte ord er jo nok det som er grunden til at jeg kun skriver på dansk overfor dig og ingen anden. Og sige det som du sagde, tjaeh det må jeg anse som at være bunden og ikke toppen af fødekæden, og desværre jeg har ikke den søde kløe i det område i øjeblikket.

 

[Metawampe]

Did I miss something or have I time warped into another dimension? No comprendo!

 

[Stella_Omega]

That might be the most intelligent comment on this thread. It certainly has given me a new insight into the GLBT community that I suppose I always knew was there, but chose to ignore in favor of political solidarity against the mainstream het world. But maybe political solidarity isn't so necessary now that we are rarely under siege anymore?

Are you fucking kidding? We are just as much under seige now as ever we were. But-- this particular forum is not a political construct. people don't come here for politics, they come here to get their rocks off. Even the political threads on GB and AH are more like porn-- surface and emotional-- than actual thoughtful discussion.

"A gathering of cultural ghettos outside the heteronormative." Yes, when you look at it that way there are going to be tensions. And I suppose now that these cultural ghettos are more free to come out than ever before, we might expect a certain elevated level of jostling between ghetto cultures that see themselves in competition on some level.

Yeah, especially when that competition is for the most basic, simple need-- space.

Truth is that I have spent most of my life experience on that bisexual interface between the straight and gay world, rather than exploring the intricacies of the deep cultural ghettos within the GLBT community. So I am more sensitive to the difficulties of the bisexual ghetto which has had to pitch its tent on the edge of the GLBT polis. Maybe I'm too touchy when a few thugs turn up to throw stones at us and tell us we don't belong. There are always going to be a few bullies in any ghetto.

Good thinking, that. Life is no eternal hallmark card.

It's really all about Safe-Bet and Girlsmiley who have personal identity issues which they are projecting outward. On one level they are in the same boat with Pirate Guy, just another couple of people struggling to come to grips with their lives. Maybe that's why they first lashed out at him?

Dude, can you POSSIBLY be any STUPIDER! That's got to be the MOST moronic thing I've seen you write yet.

 

[Wolfman1982]

Did I miss something or have I time warped into another dimension? No comprendo!

Well, I believe I would call it a battle of wits . And her asking me to shove it up my arse.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Well, I believe I would call it a battle of wits . And her asking me to shove it up my arse.

If wits were cars, she'd be driving a big rig and you'd be peddling a tricycle.

Battle? Nope not even close.

 

[lustatopia]

I did not write shut up, that is possible the most crude and extremely simple round up of that long post, and second of all. The Danish language has a LOT of double meanings and what not. It takes at least three years (if you are not a linguist of all things) to learn the Danish language. It takes a life time to master it, and even then . You are not done learning the Danish language, hell it is just like English. Which I possible think and feel that I master to a certain degree and extend, but even to this day and moment I learn new ways and words to write and understand in the beautiful English language. Shut up in Danish is written in different way. I think I have said my piece about that for now.

I have sadly only met a few transmen over the years here on literotica. And only one in real life, who became my first girlfriend. But of the transmen I have met here, there has been one , or maybe two if I stretch it. Who I could get along with. And why is that ? I actually have no bloody clue, so my conclusion would not be very satisfactory. When it comes to why I could not get along with the rest. But then again not all people can get along just fine with each other.


But I feel, Safe_Bet and the follower Stella_Omega has become the wedges in the LGBT board of all things. And Etoile´s inability to react, other than "now now behave yourselves and naughty naughty" and perhaps even "shame on you ! ! !". Because the moderators (here) are NOT allowed to do more than that. Shows, that something is extremely wrong. And every man or woman who does not share the extreme hostile, vile , aggressive and hateful attitude towards men or women who has a kink on their sexuality. Shies away from this board, or they form groups who are even more closed than they already were, because they are afraid of the wrath of the few. But then there are people who takes the fight up against those few, but powerful because they feel it is WRONG, what the few are doing to all others. I am one of those people, who does not take shit easily.
And I feel thanks to the wedges, that the board has split because of them.
And also they are some of the people, that would not make me come out of the closet, because of their hateful , aggressive , vile , and perhaps even vengeful attitude to other people. I am a bisexual man, but I am in the closet, and why is that ? because of people who are so-called part of the LGBT circle , but then again to me the people like those.. can also be a part of the heterosexual circle of all things. But I am actually a bit shocked to finally witness people on the "inside" being just as dangerous as the ones on the "outside".

So to sum it up, in perhaps a very crude manner , probably even simple. After that "concentrated headache" of a long post of mine.

If Etoile, was allowed to react more like a "moderator" on so many other boards across the internet. We as a whole, would not have experienced the full force of the likes as Safe_Bet And Stella_Omega. Whom I feel, has ruined more on this board than ANY of the so MANY great members I have had the pleasure of meeting and greeting on this board.

That's a very good point, Wolfman.

I've only been on Literotica a short time but it's obvious that Literotica is not a friendly place for new users or sensitive souls, which might be why active membership has fallen in recent years.

If you speak up here even meekly or playful about some riske subject as Pirate_Guy did, you are going to run into semi-literate thought police who will try to beat you into submission. Safe-bet and Smileygirl are only two of the least intelligent and ineffective of this mob.

But you know, Wolfman, I don't think more "moderation" is the cure. There is not a single word on this thread I would want to see deleted. Safe_bet and Smileygirl are too ignorant not to be proud of their contribution and I certainly wouldn't want to take that from them. This thread will be here for years, maybe decades to come for the whole world to read and come to their own conclusions about. LOL. Talk about karma!

Maybe, the only way forward for Literotica is to continue on with the grand experiment and experience just as it is today, as imperfect a system as it is. And those of us who are not politically correct will just have to fend for ourselves. You know, like we have to in the real world anyway.

It's like wise old Stella says - we're all here to get our rocks off, really. Heck, I know I had great fun with this thread and I hope everyone enjoys it. It couldn't have happened with all the hard work the little ladies put into it.

Thanks for that, Grrrrrls.

Be seein' ya'll around.

 

[girlsmiley]

"If you speak up here even meekly or playful about some riske subject as Pirate_Guy did, you are going to run into semi-literate thought police who will try to beat you into submission. Safe-bet and Smileygirl are only two of the least intelligent and ineffective of this mob."


Do you mean risqué?

Goodness me

 

[Safe_Bet]

"If you speak up here even meekly or playful about some riske subject as Pirate_Guy did, you are going to run into semi-literate thought police who will try to beat you into submission. Safe-bet and Smileygirl are only two of the least intelligent and ineffective of this mob."


Do you mean risqué?

Goodness me

You knew that because you are semi-literate...

 

[girlsmiley]

You knew that because you are semi-literate...

Takes one to know one, bitch

 

[Safe_Bet]

Takes one to know one, bitch

My two graduate degrees and all the letters following my name not withstanding, that's "ignorant" bitch to you, sistah!

(BTW, isn't it cute how they act when you get two or more misogynists together?)

 

[blade_rocknut]

My two graduate degrees and all the letters following my name not withstanding, that's "ignorant" bitch to you, sistah!

(BTW, isn't it cute how they act when you get two or more misogynists together?)

Karma doesn't discriminate on basis of degees.....or intelligence; two things which I believe are not as closely correlated as many believe. That's not an attack; just a reminder. Educated or not, ignorant or keen; harshness as a default setting serves the good of no one.

 

[Safe_Bet]

Karma doesn't discriminate on basis of degees.....or intelligence; two things which I believe are not as closely correlated as many believe. That's not an attack; just a reminder. Educated or not, ignorant or keen; harshness as a default setting serves the good of no one.

Gotcha, dude.

And I suppose you didn't find Lustadopia's comments to be misogynistic or insulting either, did you. He was just bitch slapping a couple of uppity women back into place, right?

 

[blade_rocknut]

Gotcha, dude.

And I suppose you didn't find Lustadopia's comments to be misogynistic or insulting either, did you. He was just bitch slapping a couple of uppity women back into place, right?

Personal insults do no good here....regardless of from whom or to whom. In all fairness, I shouldn't have used the quote button before making that last post...making it seem as though my point was addressed solely to you. I do disagree with you; with some regularity, but really my statement was very broad. I have taken issue many times in my past ( not limited to this place for sure) with those who felt their "credentials" made them somehow a "better" person than me ( or others). I had a skirmish in another thread once with someone whose (alleged) income was a regular fulcrum from which they derived perceived leverage against me. I don't care; simply.

 

[girlsmiley]

My two graduate degrees and all the letters following my name not withstanding, that's "ignorant" bitch to you, sistah!

(BTW, isn't it cute how they act when you get two or more misogynists together?)

You forgot hostile, vile, aggressive and hateful, you knowledge lacking whore.

Mysogynist: A man who hates every bone in a woman's body. Except his.

 

[Stella_Omega]

You forgot hostile, vile, aggressive and hateful, you knowledge lacking whore.

Mysogynist: A man who hates every bone in a woman's body. Except his.

it's sad, how passive aggressive some men can be when they're losing.

 

[girlsmiley]

it's sad, how passive aggressive some men can be when they're losing.

C'est la vie. Such is life.

How you doin?

I just noticed your other post back thataways <<<

"You rang?"

Hahaha!


*trips, stumbles* "I can't find my glasses!"

 

[lustatopia]

I truly had a great time on this thread. It was weird though, to say the least.

But all good things come to an end. Doesn't look like any of us have anything to add to this thread.

I know let's do a recap! It all began when young newbie Pirate_Guy created this thread to discuss his sexlessly boring marriage and how he tried to cope with it by indulging in gay sex fantasies. He even tried to be creative and coin a name for it, Vanilla Wife Syndrome. I suppose like most newbies here he arrive naively assuming the whole idea behind Literotica is creative writing with an erotic angle.

I thought it was an OK effort and so chimed in with a comment at #4 just to give the new bi guy a bump really.

Not 10 minutes later at #5 Safe_Bet a veteran of 6,800 posts pulls the thread over to the side of the road like she's a cop and asks to see Prirate_Guy's license "How do you in your wildest imagination consider this to be LGBT related???" she inquires.

That's how it all started. Safe_bet attacked a new user like a pitbull. Safe_Bet now claims a month later she is a innocent victim of misogynist abuse. ROTFL. But let's stick to the chronological story...

I guess maybe she missed the part about Pirate_Guy having gay sex in his post. But Pirate_guy defends himself timidly: "I'm not sure if I have to justify myself to you..." He says, and then goes on to quote the gay sex part out of the original thread.

Then at post #8 Safe_Bet reveals that she a brute with 6,800 posts under her belt intent on crushing a newbie's ego on only his third thread. It's the stuff of playground bullying, the big mean tough kid attacking the young little nerd who just wants to play ball. Maybe make a little friend or two? Not a chance, pal. Not on Safe_bet's turf...

Here's Safe_bet's original cruel rant:

I'm just sick of people who treat LGBT sexuality like some fetish or a glorified sex toy. We are not here to get straight people off when they can't get enough at home, dude.

First of all, if you you have same sex relations STRICTLY because your wife isn't giving you any or enough you are doing it only to get off on the sex and you could care less if it is with a man, woman or a donkey.

That is NOT homo or Bi sexual, IMO. You have no attraction to men, you just wanted a kinky cum, which would make it a fetish (and which generated my question to you before your whiny little response )

Secondly, REAL homo / bi sexuality is NOT something you just turn on and off at a whim. Anything else is simply using another human being as your cum receptacle.

So Safe_bet jumped into a Virgin's thread who she doesn't know from Adam and totally lambasted his ass just for even imagining that he's allowed to bi or gay without her consent. Basically telling him to STFU and take his kinky cum fetish off her playground. Fascinatingly everything she said was a projection of her own twisted imagination, far more revealing of her own mental state than Pirate_Guy's.

But why would anyone treat a new member of our GLBT community like that? If Safe_bet gave a rat's ass about anything other then her own abusive power as a bully she could have addressed her concerns to Pirate_Guy in a way that had some hope of communicating them. Instead she simply choose to take a baseball bat to the Pirate_Guy thread. Hmmm. What is going on here?

We go back to the thread and try to ignore Safe-Bet, but HerLittlePiggy at #10 points out That Safe_bet is a known bully who has it out for bisexuals....

If you are truly honest Safe_Bet you really want GLBT to subtract the male bi sexuals. This is the demo that most of your ire seems directed at. You got the fetish forum and now you want to push the bimen out because it does not fit into your category of interests.

Stop trying to be the topic police and if something isn't your cup o tea close the thread and look elsewhere. Jeeze. Lighten up and let us enjoy the topic without making it all about you /rant

End of story, right. No way. Safe_bet strikes right back and starts in with her trade mark brutal hypocrisy style of debate...

"Stop trying to put words into my mouth," Safe_bet says to HerLittlePiggy, even though she just stuff a bucket of words down Pirate_Guy's throat.

Safe_bet then continues to put more words in Piggy's mouth:

The TOPIC was the OP pissing and moaning about his wife who isn't kinky enough for him. Bisexuality was mentioned as an aside (and most prolly to keep his ass from getting eaten in the GB). It DOESN'T make it a GLBT related post, IMO.

That said, that is just my opinion and I CAN state it if you like it or not.

BTW, stop your whining, dude. YOU might not like having all of your "guys that like cock, but hate men" posts moved to the Fetish forum, but the rest of us sure as fuck do.

P.S. If you can't communicate with your spouse about your needs that STILL isn't grounds to cheat, no matter WHAT your orientation. All "not telling your wife" does is make you a coward as well as a cheating scumbag.

* * *

By this time the thread is fucked. Safe_Bet has totally hijacked it. Pirate_Guy has logged off. He doesn't really feel welcomed at Literotica. No one dares to post on topic. The big schoolyard bully stands proudly over the shattered peace and claims : That said, that is just my opinion and I CAN state it if you like it or not.

True. Safe-Bet, we all got an opinion and an asshole, but usually they aren't both located on our face.

So I tried to coax back some perspective at post #13

Gosh, Safe-Bet, I'm sorry you're upset...

I guess this topic must have really hit a nerve. The GLBT community chose the symbol of the rainbow because it represents the complete visible range of the electromagnetic spectrum and as such -inclusiveness, which implies tolerance as well. We aren't all as unquestioningly self-satisfied with our sexuality as you appear to be.

And there is plenty of psychological, physiological and sociological evidence to suggest that everyone is born capable of bisexuality. Bisexuality is simply the psychological capacity to enjoy sexual pleasure with other human beings, regardless of gender. In that sense we were ALL born with that capacity, but were taught through a lifetime of culturalization to gravitate towards heterosexuality, for the obvious evolutionary need to promote procreation. The range of human societies demonstrates the flexibility of human sexuality.

But your most egregious position is the self-righteous moral judgement you cast upon people you don't know from Adam. How ironic that someone who imagines she's sexually liberated would adopt the authoritarian, hectoring tone of a social conservative to admonish those she imagines have violated some sort of code of sexual orthodoxy.

Maybe Safe-Bet is the Only Gay in the Village?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YHbTjpjUEI

I think Safe_bet is hilarious, like a character straight out of little Britain, with totally no self-awareness. I plan to help her see herself for what she truly is. A brutal whale of a buffoon motivated by some sort of territory instinct.

Safe_bet attacks me now. How dare I challenge the schoolyard bully to a fight:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Cute, dude. Calling somebody self-righteous and then going all "self-righteous" is pretty damn funny! It become down right hysterical when you say shit like that I was "taught through a lifetime of culturalization to gravitate towards heterosexuality...".

I'm a dyke you fucking moron!

Only a bully would think HAHAHAHAHAHA and "you fucking moron." Are a rhetorical devises. As if I didn't know she was a dyke. duh.

Safe_bet is a brutalist. But I wonder... if I prod her will she reveal the real angst that psychologically drives her mean spiritedness?

@ #17 I post this:

I really don't understand why you are so angry....

I'm not raising my voice or using ad hominem insults to belittle you. Nor am I mocking you or your opinion, which you are entitled to.

I do reserve my right to disagree with you and to reasonably outline why I think not only are you wrong, but your style of communicating your opinion is juvenile and unproductive.

In fact, you might have been able to make a rational case why Pirate Guy's post is not applicable to the GLBT chatter forum, but simply by demonstrating how threatening Pirate Guy's bisexuality is to your own values you have elevated the topicality of his post beyond its original intent.

My point is that your definition of what it means to be a full fledge member of the GLBT community is something less than liberal, kind or generous and that you might want to look more closely at your own unexamined assumptions about sexuality before attempting to thwart the rational inquiry of others into their own sexual nature.

There are plenty of sexual variations on the GLBT Chatter board which aren't my cup of tea. But who am I to seek to impose my own vision of sexual pleasure upon others as a kind of orthodoxy from which it is heretical to vary?

That's what you are attempting to do here in the most oppressively rhetorical way you can muster. I seriously doubt you would tolerate for a moment a Southern Baptist seeking to impose their dogma on your sexuality. But somehow it's OK for you to behave in the same fashion towards a rather mundane sexuality you deem deviant?

Now, if you will please comport yourself. Take a deep breath. Relax and attempt to rationally explain your position in terms that are conducive to creating a dialog between differing points of view, rather than simply hurling insults... I would be delighted to further entertain any ideas you have to offer.

 

[girlsmiley]

He's gone full retard.

Never go full retard.

 

[lustatopia]

He's gone full retard.

Never go full retard.

This is for you Stasi Commissar Smileygrrl, Sir!

Just so your Honor grasps what we degenerate "cum receptacles, women hating, men hating, scumbag, trolls, moronic fucks, sexual abusers and cheaters" think is hot sex. Sometimes I think we get too far removed from exactly what sort of sex we are talking about.

This is the real deal. Those socially conservative and intolerant Stalinist dykes might not want to click on the link below, it's shocking, make sure you have your barf bag ready....

http://www.xvideos.com/video87977/bisexual_sperm_swap_

Fucking criminally disgusting isn't it? I know I puked my guts outs.

Stella, I demand this sort of sick vomit be banished from the GLBT board immediately! It's obviously straight sex involving guys who love cum swapping and cocksucking and getting reamed up the ass, but are totally straight faggots who otherwise hate men AND women. Hatefully sexist stuff.

Plus it totally discriminates against dogs. Not a single canine citizen was involved in this production.

 

[Safe_Bet]

He's gone full retard.

Never go full retard.

Just pity him. It must be very lonely all by himself down in his mom's basement.

She must have made him make his bed or something, so now he acting out. Poor Mr. Cranky Pants.

 

[Luna_Wolf72]

OK so WHAT is the topic of this thread? The initial post didn`t strike me as GLBT but it has since became very much so.

Are we arguing bisexuality as a fetish? Are we dissing it as people who bury themselves in a closet? Or are we discussing those people who use same sex sex as a way of getting off when thier s/o`s don`t wanna play?

Help me out so I know which way to argue.

 

[blade_rocknut]

OK so WHAT is the topic of this thread? The initial post didn`t strike me as GLBT but it has since became very much so.

Are we arguing bisexuality as a fetish? Are we dissing it as people who bury themselves in a closet? Or are we discussing those people who use same sex sex as a way of getting off when thier s/o`s don`t wanna play?

Help me out so I know which way to argue.

It's more like a game show now; I think you have to insult someone in order to play....

 

[Luna_Wolf72]

It's more like a game show now; I think you have to insult someone in order to play....

Oh well then fuck it. I don`t go in for insults or name calling as I have dealt with both for most of my life. Nothing ruins the joy of calling someone else rude names like being refered to by names like~ *queer nigger bitch* , *black cunt* or even *dyke darkie* since coming out in high school as queer and proud in the mid 80`s.

 

[vrosej10]

Oh well then fuck it. I don`t go in for insults or name calling as I have dealt with both for most of my life. Nothing ruins the joy of calling someone else rude names like being refered to by names like~ *queer nigger bitch* , *black cunt* or even *dyke darkie* since coming out in high school as queer and proud in the mid 80`s.

I'm with you. I got called so many names as the obligatory fat kid, I just can't fins any joy in abusing someone else. I knew there was a reason I liked you.