What do readers actually want in Loving Wives?

[lovecraft68]

Those shitty people still commenting on my story that I'm racist.

Projection is an awful thing, isn't it?

 

[amenarimix]

Hey, guys. Finally, I lost my virginity. Congratulate me everyone. LoL.

 

[amenarimix]

Projection is an awful thing, isn't it?

Indeed

 

[SimonDoom]

I don't think you're getting what I'm saying. In my last post I said I consider anything other than a BTB story a legit attempt at the fetish. The shame is those attempts keep getting flamed even though they are what the category is about. There are legit readers who are looking for said stories, but they get drowned out by the shitheads.

Said shitheads attack the commenters you're talking about and they're driving them off to where they are becoming the majority. As the OP just mentioned, some people don't want to have to battle the idiots in a place they're supposed to be having fun.

We've gotten to where more cuck stories are going into fetish because 'there goes the neighborhood' says it all there and I see it continuing.

The site is at fault. They screen comments yet continue to let all this stuff through even though much of it can be considered hate speech at this point, but hey, just don't say puberty I guess.

Its not going to get any better which is too bad because it sucks for the people you're talking about. In the meantime I'm not going to sugar coat the fact its gone from a normal category to cesspool.

OK. I don't have much disagreement with that. But I'd appreciate if you stop saying I'm "defending the category" like I'm defending the incel crowd, because that's how it sounds, and I think you know better than to believe that I'm defending the trolls. I feel bad for what I think is a very large readership of people who genuinely like these stories, and their fun is getting spoiled by the intolerant crowd. It's a crappy situation and I don't know what the answer is. I personally enjoy those kinds of stories and I write them, but I don't want to see my entire story portfolio bombed.

 

[SimonDoom]

Hey, guys. Finally, I lost my virginity. Congratulate me everyone. LoL.

I'm raising a glass in your honor right now. Cheers.

 

[Bisexguy70]

I saw this thread. Decided to read it. I gave the story 5 stars. Loving wives. It could be wives loving anything thats outside their married sex life. Erotica is erotica. I find if you cant say anything good. Dont say anything at all. However ive had BBC and this womans husband gave her a gift of a lifetime!! Loving wives, more like loving husbands!! Hoping he gets some of that too

 

[GlennJenko]

This is a topic I'm also worried about, and I totally get where you're coming from. I'm a long time erotica reader, and I've finally decided to attempt to write my own stories. But because my main idea I have at the moment is a wife cheating story (it's actually really similar to yours, in fact - an interracial cheating on a honeymoon) and I suffer from really bad anxiety, I don't know if I should post it, or where, if I do, to put it.

I want to put it in the place where it fits best, but because of the strong negative reactions they get from certain people, I also don't want to put it there.

 

[SimonDoom]

This is a topic I'm also worried about, and I totally get where you're coming from. I'm a long time erotica reader, and I've finally decided to attempt to write my own stories. But because my main idea I have at the moment is a wife cheating story (it's actually really similar to yours, in fact - an interracial cheating on a honeymoon) and I suffer from really bad anxiety, I don't know if I should post it, or where, if I do, to put it.

I want to put it in the place where it fits best, but because of the strong negative reactions they get from certain people, I also don't want to put it there.

Some advice. I hope it's helpful.

If you are anxious about getting a nasty response, you're normal. You're like almost everybody else here. It's OK. We've all gone through that.

You could post it in another category where it's likely to get a more positive reception. Interracial, maybe. Sounds like a good fit for that. Plus, interracial stories get a lot of views, relatively speaking.

If the story has exhibitionist/voyeur elements, you could post it there. I've found that to be a relatively "nice" category, and I've had good success posting "hot wife" stories in that category.

If it has fetishy elements, you could post it in fetish. But fetish stories don't get quite as many views.

 

[GlennJenko]

Some advice. I hope it's helpful.

If you are anxious about getting a nasty response, you're normal. You're like almost everybody else here. It's OK. We've all gone through that.

You could post it in another category where it's likely to get a more positive reception. Interracial, maybe. Sounds like a good fit for that. Plus, interracial stories get a lot of views, relatively speaking.

If the story has exhibitionist/voyeur elements, you could post it there. I've found that to be a relatively "nice" category, and I've had good success posting "hot wife" stories in that category.

If it has fetishy elements, you could post it in fetish. But fetish stories don't get quite as many views.

That's very helpful, thank you.

Interracial would work well in the absence of loving wives, and I can probably tag it to widen the audience to other people anyway. It's basically just a straight up cheating story though with no voyeurism (might have some elements of anal at some point but not enough for it to be in *that* category), and not really any need for Fetish. Thanks again for the help and insight.

 

[other2other1]

I don't know that there is any one thing that readers want in the LW category. For myself, I love reading a well-formed BTB tale. I also enjoy seeing forgiveness and reconciliation when the MC is given a chance to recover. I am not a fan of cuck or humiliation where the MC never stands up for themselves, and I can't stand stories that have no ending (I miss FTDS).

In comments, a lot of the time, I try to comment on the story itself and how I feel about what the characters did. I try not to insult the author. Most of the time, they have put a lot of time and effort into crafting a story they are passionate about. And knowing the backlash, you're going to get posting in LW. I want to encourage them to do better so that I can read stories that work my emotional heartstrings.

But that's me, not everyone else. In the LW category, there are also some very well-thought-out stories about swapping/swinging and even cuckolding. while I don't typically read these, I have noticed that lots of the commentators that aren't screaming rage at the author for writing that side of LW, that they like it.

I guess it boils down to the fact that we are all different and all of us like different things. Just because a story doesn't rate highly, or it gets a whole lot of trolls throwing insults at it, doesn't mean that there are not a group of readers out there that really love the story.

It comes down to each to their own.

 

[amenarimix]

I saw this thread. Decided to read it. I gave the story 5 stars. Loving wives. It could be wives loving anything thats outside their married sex life. Erotica is erotica. I find if you cant say anything good. Dont say anything at all. However ive had BBC and this womans husband gave her a gift of a lifetime!! Loving wives, more like loving husbands!! Hoping he gets some of that too

Yea, the extra marital fun should happen in both way.

 

[amenarimix]

This is a topic I'm also worried about, and I totally get where you're coming from. I'm a long time erotica reader, and I've finally decided to attempt to write my own stories. But because my main idea I have at the moment is a wife cheating story (it's actually really similar to yours, in fact - an interracial cheating on a honeymoon) and I suffer from really bad anxiety, I don't know if I should post it, or where, if I do, to put it.

I want to put it in the place where it fits best, but because of the strong negative reactions they get from certain people, I also don't want to put it there.

If it's about gay, transgender then you can out your story in Gay or transgender. The readers from this section are very open minded. If not then put it on fetish. Personally I don't have any experience on that. Don't put it in interracial if it's about gay or transgender. I stopped a series after two chapters. You'll find a lot admirers but also haters. Find some story that similar to yours and saw the comments and rating before publishing in a new category. I just learned from my mistake.

 

[amenarimix]

I don't know that there is any one thing that readers want in the LW category. For myself, I love reading a well-formed BTB tale. I also enjoy seeing forgiveness and reconciliation when the MC is given a chance to recover. I am not a fan of cuck or humiliation where the MC never stands up for themselves, and I can't stand stories that have no ending (I miss FTDS).

In comments, a lot of the time, I try to comment on the story itself and how I feel about what the characters did. I try not to insult the author. Most of the time, they have put a lot of time and effort into crafting a story they are passionate about. And knowing the backlash, you're going to get posting in LW. I want to encourage them to do better so that I can read stories that work my emotional heartstrings.

But that's me, not everyone else. In the LW category, there are also some very well-thought-out stories about swapping/swinging and even cuckolding. while I don't typically read these, I have noticed that lots of the commentators that aren't screaming rage at the author for writing that side of LW, that they like it.

I guess it boils down to the fact that we are all different and all of us like different things. Just because a story doesn't rate highly, or it gets a whole lot of trolls throwing insults at it, doesn't mean that there are not a group of readers out there that really love the story.

It comes down to each to their own.

Yes, you read the tags and stay out of it, that's the main idea of tags and categories. But in reality even after there is a summary at the very beginning of the story and a warning of what it is about. But still, readers gave their thoughts about the story is just crazy.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Okay, but I'm weak in English. Did you blame some authors like me or the others who give them what the readers want?

I saw the comments you got and some of them were the rudest statements I've ever see online. (Maybe they are actually average for that board; somebody should do a study.) Unfortunately, although it might be an interesting topic for stories, that's what happens of Lit. Some authors deliberately go on there to stir up things, and the denizens there go for the bait.

It kind of depends on how much you can tolerate. I put a couple of stories on there because they seemed to fit and I admit I was curious to see what would happen. I wasn't, however, deliberately trying to provoke them. I think the stories could have fit into another category, but at least I found out.

 

[Lovecraft_Lore]

This is a topic I'm also worried about, and I totally get where you're coming from. I'm a long time erotica reader, and I've finally decided to attempt to write my own stories. But because my main idea I have at the moment is a wife cheating story (it's actually really similar to yours, in fact - an interracial cheating on a honeymoon) and I suffer from really bad anxiety, I don't know if I should post it, or where, if I do, to put it.

I want to put it in the place where it fits best, but because of the strong negative reactions they get from certain people, I also don't want to put it there.

Great that you want to write. I think interracial would be a good place to post it.

You need very thick skin to post anything in the loving wives cesspool. It is not a good idea to put your first story there.

 

[7528Dick]

That's very helpful, thank you.

Interracial would work well in the absence of loving wives, and I can probably tag it to widen the audience to other people anyway. It's basically just a straight up cheating story though with no voyeurism (might have some elements of anal at some point but not enough for it to be in *that* category), and not really any need for Fetish. Thanks again for the help and insight.

I love interracial. I'll read it.

 

[lovecraft68]

I wasn't, however, deliberately trying to provoke them. I think the stories could have fit into another category, but at least I found out.

Much like the people on Twitter that crowd lives to be provoked, outraged and angry. My wife always says if you look for something you'll find it and they look for reasons to spew, so whether you're trying or not doesn't matter.

But your comment about authors deliberately egging them on did help to create this mess as well. The category was well described to me once by a young lady who is no longer on lit when she said "Its a perfect storm of ugh."

 

[GlennJenko]

Great that you want to write. I think interracial would be a good place to post it.

You need very thick skin to post anything in the loving wives cesspool. It is not a good idea to put your first story there.

Thank you, and I'm notoriously not thick-skinned so I'll definitely take the advice.

I love interracial. I'll read it.

Thank you!

 

[gunhilltrain]

Much like the people on Twitter that crowd lives to be provoked, outraged and angry. My wife always says if you look for something you'll find it and they look for reasons to spew, so whether you're trying or not doesn't matter.

But your comment about authors deliberately egging them on did help to create this mess as well. The category was well described to me once by a young lady who is no longer on lit when she said "Its a perfect storm of ugh."

People provoke other people on the Internet and apps because it's so easy to do and the consequences are negligible. They used to be called "flame wars," although maybe that term is fading.

I'm not even on Twitter. But I've become more careful, because it[s not worth the time and energy. I think I mentioned a guy on an email list; I know his real name but I haven't met him in person. Some people I do know have met him. So about a month ago he really went off on me about a long-gone train Amtrak train in North Dakota. Amtrak in North Dakota! And he lives in New Jersey. Later people who knew me sent private messages to me, "This guy loves to argue, and you'll never change his mind."

So you can imagine - we've all seen it - all the truly hot-button issues on a site like Lit and the emotions that result from them.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I'm not posting any stories in that category. I think they don't deserve any freebies at all. Do you guys block them? I never block anyone in here but I think I should.

You can't block readers here. But you can block anonymous readers and commenters. You can even frustrate them further by turning off comments and votes, yet I understand that you might like to know both.

I have anon comments turned off as most of the vitriol comes from them.

 

[amenarimix]

I saw the comments you got and some of them were the rudest statements I've ever see online. (Maybe they are actually average for that board; somebody should do a study.) Unfortunately, although it might be an interesting topic for stories, that's what happens of Lit. Some authors deliberately go on there to stir up things, and the denizens there go for the bait.

It kind of depends on how much you can tolerate. I put a couple of stories on there because they seemed to fit and I admit I was curious to see what would happen. I wasn't, however, deliberately trying to provoke them. I think the stories could have fit into another category, but at least I found out.

I deleted the most horrible ones at first I saw them.

You can't block readers here. But you can block anonymous readers and commenters. You can even frustrate them further by turning off comments and votes, yet I understand that you might like to know both.

I have anon comments turned off as most of the vitriol comes from them.

What if they vote down my other categories' stories after turning off votes and comments? I think the best way to fix the loving wives category is by reporting inappropriate stories they love to read.

 

[amenarimix]

You guys were right there are some real Loving Wives readers. Just Read the comment I get it an hour ago.

Story: https://literotica.com/s/honeymoon-cuckold-pt-01

Comment:
My wife and I enjoyed this story tremendously – good job! It was so hot that Luna gave her husband’s little dick the pet name of “Little Friend”. My wife named my penis ‘3 x 2’ which means three inches long and as thick as two pencils strapped together. Needless to say, I have never been able to make her cum with that dicklet. However, I am a great pussy eater!

Having the strong, athletic, black man serve them drinks in bed on their honeymoon was splendid. You wrote, “I couldn't help but notice the enormous black cock that swung between his legs. It went halfway down his thigh and was as thick as my wrist. He then stood on the right side of me and I was at eye level with his big black cock. It was truly enormous.”

OMG! That was hot for the hubby to see that at eye level - just a few inches from his face. Both my wife and I unconsciously licked our lips and swallowed as we read that. Yummy, yummy. My wife has trained me to suck the big black cocks that she fucks. It is her way of showing me who is the real man!

Then you wrote, “He leaned in close, and the smell of his balls kept dominating my mind. I inhaled it more unconsciously. It was very musky and heavy.”

Again, OMG, that was sexy. All of my wife’s lovers have been black. I remember her first lover came over once, right after he had been playing basketball, and he was very sweaty My wife and I were naked and sitting on a low sofa. He stripped and stood right in front of us. His musky smell was intoxicating, and I got an erection.

When she saw my erection, she gently pushed me off the couch so, that I was in a kneeling position. Then, she pushed my face right into his crotch and had me breathe deeply for several minutes. My penis started quivering with desire.

Then, she quickly painted my lips with bright, red lipstick and dusted my cheeks with some bright pink rouge powder. Then, she knelt beside me and began training me to suck real cock and lick huge balls. I started begging him to cum for me, and he did – he shot a heavy load of cum all over my face.

Then, he spent the rest of the night making my wife cum on his thick, 10-inch, long cock. She was ovulating and very fertile. So, he knocked her up with our first child. The next day my wife placed my hand on her tummy and said, “I can feel it. I can feel that his sperm has mated with my egg. There is a shift inside me, and I’m sure he made me pregnant.”

Again, we loved your story and look forward to additional chapters!

 

[FifthEstate]

I don't understand why you keep playing into the BTB crowd's game by talking this way. Yes, this crowd exists, and yes, they are terrible, and yes, they will downvote your story if you publish an extramarital sex story in LW where the wife isn't punished. But there's also a big LW readership that doesn't think this way, and it's OBVIOUS that this is true. Why can't you acknowledge that? If authors want many favorites and views and don't care about high scores and nasty comments then this is the right category in which to publish these stories.

I have wanted to publish in this category for awhile, but my ego keeps getting in the way. While I have confidence in my story-telling skills, it’s my fear of down voting (both on the LW story and my other works). Fortunately (or unfortunately in this case) I’ve been lucky enough to maintain a perfect hot red score on my stories so far. And while I still see “hot” ratings on LW stories, they seem rare. It seems petty, but I

I don't understand why you keep playing into the BTB crowd's game by talking this way. Yes, this crowd exists, and yes, they are terrible, and yes, they will downvote your story if you publish an extramarital sex story in LW where the wife isn't punished. But there's also a big LW readership that doesn't think this way, and it's OBVIOUS that this is true. Why can't you acknowledge that? If authors want many favorites and views and don't care about high scores and nasty comments then this is the right category in which to publish these stories.

I have wanted to publish in this category for awhile, but my ego keeps getting in the way. I could give a shit about negative comments, but it’s my fear of downvoting that has held me back. Sounds petty, but I’m fortunate (or unfortunate in this case) that I have maintained a perfect red “hot” rating to this point. That said, I will likely never write Incest/Taboo and really want to reach other popular audience categories. I like wife infidelity stories, but, although I’ve published some, not necessarily cuckold. I’m not into BTB.

The 30k foot premise for the LW story I’m considering is: As a condition of a fuckup the husband makes, he has to agree to let another man seduce his wife. He doesn’t want it, but feels he has no choice but to accept. Any idea where that falls in the LW list of acceptable/desired rationales?

 

[MillieDynamite]

I have wanted to publish in this category for awhile, but my ego keeps getting in the way. While I have confidence in my story-telling skills, it’s my fear of down voting (both on the LW story and my other works). Fortunately (or unfortunately in this case) I’ve been lucky enough to maintain a perfect hot red score on my stories so far. And while I still see “hot” ratings on LW stories, they seem rare. It seems petty, but I

I have wanted to publish in this category for awhile, but my ego keeps getting in the way. I could give a shit about negative comments, but it’s my fear of downvoting that has held me back. Sounds petty, but I’m fortunate (or unfortunate in this case) that I have maintained a perfect red “hot” rating to this point. That said, I will likely never write Incest/Taboo and really want to reach other popular audience categories. I like wife infidelity stories, but, although I’ve published some, not necessarily cuckold. I’m not into BTB.

The 30k foot premise for the LW story I’m considering is: As a condition of a fuckup the husband makes, he has to agree to let another man seduce his wife. He doesn’t want it, but feels he has no choice but to accept. Any idea where that falls in the LW list of acceptable/desired rationales?

Probably not. But maybe yes, if you tell it from the seducer's point of view. The incels love strong (white) men taking what they want; then they can imagine it's them.

 

[Lifestyle66]

....I like wife infidelity stories, but, although I’ve published some, not necessarily cuckold. I’m not into BTB.

The 30k foot premise for the LW story I’m considering is: As a condition of a fuckup the husband makes, he has to agree to let another man seduce his wife. He doesn’t want it, but feels he has no choice but to accept. Any idea where that falls in the LW list of acceptable/desired rationales?

It doesn't matter to the trolls if the husband knows and agrees about the wife fucking another guy or if the husband is surprised when he finds out, it's all the same to them: The husband is a cuckold/wimp (unless he burns the bitch), or they are perverts.

In my own stories (several posted to LW), the husband and wife are more or less equals. In their "Newbies" story (posted to LW), the husband had a great time banging the other wife (twice), while the MC wife was short-changed with a little dick partner. The comments were: "Fucking gross", "Why be married?", "Pointless", "Disgusting trash. Deviant losers."

In my latest chapter (The Bar Group) where the husband ended up in bed with the hostess wife riding him while his own MC wife just watched, comments included "Holy Homo Butt Banger Batman!" and "Why do swingers need FWBs?" (That last from one of the named regular LW haters.)

Soooo ... in my experience, while there are many opinions of the LW trolls being anti-LGBT, misogynistic, women-hating, racist, white male, incels, ... I think they are more the "monogamous marriage is the one and only way" intolerants (with a random scattering of all those other descriptors, too).

Your proposed story will be shit on by the trolls in LW.