Why do you hate Sarah Palin?

[FurryFury]

Sarah Palin most blatant crime isn't being liar. It's being a bad liar.

LMAO!



I recently heard allegations that she is just her husband's talking figure head and he is the real governor of Alaska. I wonder if that's true?

 

[graceanne]

Sarah Palin most blatant crime isn't being liar. It's being a bad liar.

I'll give you that.

 

[Netzach]

Tony Rezko - Ted Stevens.

Jeremiah Wright - Pat Robertson and a long long long list of people who are being appeased and ass kissed who espouse the view that our 1tolerance of queers caused 9/11. Wright was never on a DNC roster, however much the Obamas may have warmed the pew.

Obama marched on Selma. Palin was in Iraq.

Let's put it this way. There's a lot of lying AND I don't think she has any idea what she's doing.

 

[JMohegan]

They're all liars. Some are more proven than others, but they are ALL liars. You don't make it that far in politics by being honest. Anyone who thinks that their party doesn't lie is naive and not to bright.

Please read this post, from six months ago. Suffice it to say, I agree with you.

Now, if you don't mind - I'd like to restore the portion of my sentence that you chopped off.

"Aside from the fact that she's a proven liar, I'm sort of stunned that anyone feels they know what this woman's like at all."

I wasn't trying to say that Palin is a liar and no Democrat ever committed such a sin. My point was that pretty much all she's done is lie since she burst on the national scene. As I noted in the rest of that post:

"Palin reads teleprompter speeches and refuses to take questions from the press. She's taken a few questions from the public at tightly controlled town hall meetings with a partisan Republican crowd. She's been through one deer in the headlights interview with Gibson, and one love fest with Hannity. A more tightly controlled and carefully crafted candidate, I have never seen."

Obama participated in 25 unscripted debates during the Democratic primaries. He's sat for dozens of unscripted one-on-one interviews with print news and TV, and multiple unscripted, live, televised Q&A sessions in front of large audiences such as the Saddleback forum. I feel as if I have a very clear idea as to his intelligence, world view, goals for the country, personal style, and potential for diplomatic skill.

Sarah Palin is a myth created by Republican handlers. So much of the myth is demonstrably false that it leaves me wondering just who the heck this woman really is. I have no idea. And I don't see how anyone could.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

Post #7 of this thread:

I won't say I hate her, but I do have a strong urge to wash my mouth out after hearing her speak the last couple of weeks. I gave as my reason that she's stupid, and I'll back that up with the plethora of easily proven outright lies that she's tried to put over on us during and since the convention. Everyone knows politicians lie; that's not the problem. The problem I have with her is that she tells lies that (1) IMO do not advance her and McCain's campaign to any significant degree, and (2) are easily shown to be blatantly and knowingly false (unless she's pathological, in which case she should not be holding any public office, let alone be a potential one 70-year-old's weak heartbeat away from the most powerful office in the world). To tell a marginal untruth that enhances either herself, McCain or the campaign is SOP for a politician, and expected. To tell the types of lies she has been caught in, in the past couple of weeks, is weak, egoistic, and stupid.

Sarah Palin most blatant crime isn't being liar. It's being a bad liar.

Bad liar, stupid liar. Is there a difference?

 

[bambikiller]

Im not arguing politics anymore, I can do that any where.
I joined this forum to look at some photos and talk and sex.
You are going to vote for who you want and I'm going to vote for who I want.
See you all later in the fun section of this site. Bye.

 

[WriterDom]

I wish Sarah could be as honest as this Biden asswipe. When you graduate 10th from the bottom of your class you should be smart enough to know you weren't in the top half. Or maybe not. A guy with a history of plagiarism.

"You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking." Imagine if a republican had said that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SKjTqgjq8E

 

[Netzach]

"You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking." Imagine if a republican had said that.

He'd be....fitting in just fine?

 

[Homburg]

Post #7 of this thread:

Bad liar, stupid liar. Is there a difference?

Nah, not really.

So, if McCain has a massive heart attack or some such, and can't continue, do we get an emergency primary? Or just slide Palin in and grab a new veep?

 

[intothewoods]

I wish Sarah could be as honest as this Biden asswipe. When you graduate 10th from the bottom of your class you should be smart enough to know you weren't in the top half. Or maybe not. A guy with a history of plagiarism.

"You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking." Imagine if a republican had said that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SKjTqgjq8E

You know he doesn't have a "history of plagiarism." There was a speech he gave repeatedly, with credit given to the original author multiple times over, which he once gave without giving the credit. That's not plagiarism - that's an oversight. Come on.

So, Indian Americans own a lot of 7-Elevens and Dunkin Donuts in Delaware - I think the level of attention that comment received was appropriate. It's not like George Allen with whatever the hell he said.

 

[intothewoods]

And btw, when McCain makes off the cuff remarks he's called a maverick.

 

[EmpressFi]

And btw, when McCain makes off the cuff remarks he's called a maverick.

does he make "off the cuff" remarks.. or off Obama's cuff remarks.

Sorry, I was laughing because last week, during the beginning of the Wall Street issues, Obama made the statement that while we needed to help Wall Street, this was also about lookin out for Main street. Today, McCain was making a speech and used the same phrases.

 

[graceanne]

Obama marched on Selma. Palin was in Iraq.

My husband will be leaving FOR Iraq in April. Being in Iraq doesn't make you a bad person. I've talked to actual people who've been in Iraq - the ones who were there when the Iraqi people cheered at our arrival. My sister in law is an Iraqi Kurd and her entire freaken family was murdered by Hussein - she survived cause her father got out of Iraq right before Hussein took control - he saw which way the wind was blowing.

Why are we in Iraq? The oil, I don't have any doubts. But in the meantime schools for GIRLS have been re-established. Women can leave their homes in relative safety (compared to how it used to be) and the Husseins torture of the kurdish people has ended. Do we need to leave now? Yes. Nonetheless, GOOD THINGS HAVE HAPPENED. And I'm sure people will site lots of liberal websites saying the opposite, but want to know who I'm going to choose to believe? The people who've actually BEEN there or the ones who just write about it?

But, I feel the need to remind everyone that I don't like Sarah Palin or McCain. Something about them squicks me. Truthfully I like Obama. Unfortunately, I don't like his politics, and I also don't think he has the experience to be president.

Beyond that, I think he'll be assassinated very soon after he's elected (assuming he's elected), so we aren't really voting on him but his VP (who I don't have an opinion on, yet). Like it or not, we (as a country) are not far enough along as a country for a black president to remain president very long.

Does anyone know who's running for Independent? I heard it was Ron Paul, but then I heard he dropped out of the race.

 

[Netzach]

My husband will be leaving FOR Iraq in April. Being in Iraq doesn't make you a bad person. I've talked to actual people who've been in Iraq - the ones who were there when the Iraqi people cheered at our arrival. My sister in law is an Iraqi Kurd and her entire freaken family was murdered by Hussein - she survived cause her father got out of Iraq right before Hussein took control - he saw which way the wind was blowing.

Why are we in Iraq? The oil, I don't have any doubts. But in the meantime schools for GIRLS have been re-established. Women can leave their homes in relative safety (compared to how it used to be) and the Husseins torture of the kurdish people has ended. Do we need to leave now? Yes. Nonetheless, GOOD THINGS HAVE HAPPENED. And I'm sure people will site lots of liberal websites saying the opposite, but want to know who I'm going to choose to believe? The people who've actually BEEN there or the ones who just write about it?

But, I feel the need to remind everyone that I don't like Sarah Palin or McCain. Something about them squicks me. Truthfully I like Obama. Unfortunately, I don't like his politics, and I also don't think he has the experience to be president.

Beyond that, I think he'll be assassinated very soon after he's elected (assuming he's elected), so we aren't really voting on him but his VP (who I don't have an opinion on, yet). Like it or not, we (as a country) are not far enough along as a country for a black president to remain president very long.

Does anyone know who's running for Independent? I heard it was Ron Paul, but then I heard he dropped out of the race.

Being in Iraq wasn't what I was writing about. She was on the border, she never was there, though she was stated to be. Like Obama marched at Selma as a three year old. That was my point.

A lot of good things have and are happening there. And a lot of bad things. And a lot of bad things that aren't necessarily the fault of any US presence. And a lot of good things that aren't necessarily anything the US presence has to do with.

As for only believing people who have been there, I also strive to do that. There's a lot of "liberal" or critical presence there too. A lot of troops come home with an oppositional viewpoint to the whole thing. A lot don't.

One of the better things I've seen about it was a Frontline (how lib can you get?) following a unit specializing in disarming of mines. It's not a black and white issue, like most issues of importance. There's no way to watch that Frontline, no matter how anti-war you are and stick to that blindly and say "there's no good being done there".

 

[BeachGurl2]

Wow, what an interesting discussion. Like many here have said, I don't hate Palin, or anyone else in the election. However, the idea of McCain/Palin scares the bejeezus out of me for many reasons. I'm not a liberal, I'm not a democrat. I'm a moderate independent. I've voted in every national election since I turned 18. And I always vote the person, not the party.

One thing that scares me about this election more than any in the past is the incredible sway email forwards and biased media headlines will have. We've seen some evidence of that here in this thread alone. I've lived in McCain's state for 21 years. I know his politics well. The thought that not only could he win, but could he possibly leave someone so ill-equipped to run when he dies in office, makes me actually lose sleep at night. Very scary thought indeed.

I read a variety of sources for campaign news, in addition to keeping up on voting records when I can - most of which aren't considered to be mainstream rags. And while there are a number of excellent articles in reputable places that would be great examples of Palin's lack of experience, I like the last three paragraphs of this article. It's pretty much sums it up.

Well, and Homburg's quote about her being a bad liar. I love that.

ETA: RJ, I respect your right to your opinions regarding Palin, but the idea that so many people could actually agree with what you said scares me. I don't think she's a woman of grace at all. Based on the things I've seen about her, she's as morally corrupt as they come. She just looks better in front of the camera when she's talking. She's a great actress and plays well in front of an audience. As long as she's reading someone else's script. Just my opinion, mind you.

 

[Homburg]

Does anyone know who's running for Independent? I heard it was Ron Paul, but then I heard he dropped out of the race.

So far as I know, Ron Paul is not going to run as an independent, and he did pull out of the race. He's got something in the works to be announced October 1st, but I'd be surprised as all get out if it was an independent bid.

 

[JMohegan]

Does anyone know who's running for Independent? I heard it was Ron Paul, but then I heard he dropped out of the race.

Libertarian Party: Bob Barr
Constitution Party: Chuck Baldwin
Green Party: Cynthia McKinney
Independent candidate (no party affiliation): Ralph Nader


Ron Paul recently gave his "seal of approval" to those four. Click me for more.

 

[JMohegan]

I read a variety of sources for campaign news, in addition to keeping up on voting records when I can - most of which aren't considered to be mainstream rags. And while there are a number of excellent articles in reputable places that would be great examples of Palin's lack of experience, I like the last three paragraphs of this article. It's pretty much sums it up.

Thanks for the link, BG. That's a compelling piece, I agree.

 

[WriterDom]

I'm jealous. Bill Clinton has his tongue farther up Sarah's ass than I do.

 

[SirLeo]

Would Love Sarah

I don't hate Sarah, (don't hate anyone, bad energy promulgation is not something one should practice) however, I would love to fuck her ass while she is bent over giving m a rim job and intense pussy licking!

 

[WriterDom]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rvuF7p2uwE

Ralph is talking to his fucking bird.

 

[JMohegan]

Free Sarah Palin.


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[00Syd]

Free Sarah Palin.


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That was great. The divide between the way the McCain campaign tries to portray Palin and they way she is "handled" is wide. Also, the hypocrisy of the way the McCain campaign treated Hillary and the way they say Palin is treated is ridiculous.

 

[Homburg]

Libertarian Party: Bob Barr
Constitution Party: Chuck Baldwin
Green Party: Cynthia McKinney
Independent candidate (no party affiliation): Ralph Nader


Ron Paul recently gave his "seal of approval" to those four. Click me for more.

Ron Paul actually specifically endorsed Chuck Baldwin. I'm positively dissappointed in that move, as I dislike the Constitution party. Let's see, smaller govt, more liberty, less taxes, govt as theocracy, no gay marriage, return to Constitutional principles... Wait, back up.

What happened was that they pulled together this four candidate lovefest to try to bridge issues between the fringe movements, and Bob Barr backed out literally at the last minute. So in a rather acidic post on his blog, Paul weighed in to support Baldwin.

I gotta say that I'm not happy with this. Between this move and his recent "Sanctity of Life" tripe, Ron is showing colours that I have distinct problems with. After all, I'm not a one issue voter, but I sure as hell am going to vote against Dominionists any day. The Constitution Party is just Dominionists with a nonsensical libertarianish stance. It's delusional, and Paul gave these twaddlers a boost out of venom towards Bob Barr.

 

[WriterDom]

I don't recall Obama ever facing a news conference. I heard he did (once) over a year ago. Yeah, he does one on one but they are so busy sucking his cock they don't ask much.