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Will someone define 'vanilla' for me?

AllardChardon said:
It seems to me that kinky sex is more acceptable in London than most of the united States. I must admit, I am intrigued by the Brits and their sexual appetites.

But social acceptability of kinky sex seems more common to me these days than when I was younger. Internet porn surely has changed the world.
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If we want to go back, automobiles started the Sexual Revolution, being a place where a couple could be alone with no chaperones (maiden aunts) hanging around. Then Betty Page and Playboy came along, then Deep Throat, The Devil and Miss Jones, etc. At the beginning of the XXI Century, I would call oral sex vanilla but anal sex kinky. Hence my claim to being vanilla with interesting toppings.
 
AllardChardon said:
It seems to me that kinky sex is more acceptable in London than most of the united States. I must admit, I am intrigued by the Brits and their sexual appetites.

But social acceptability of kinky sex seems more common to me these days than when I was younger. Internet porn surely has changed the world.
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It's more acceptable in most larger cities than in most small towns-- Modesto and Santa Cruz notwithstanding-- all over the world...

I cannot live in small towns, I've tried it.
 
Truly, my first sexual experiences were in the boy's car. I never really factored that in before, Volupt, thanks for the enlightment.

But, vanilla is vanilla, without toppings, in this definition. So you might not really be vanilla, anymore, thanks to LIT.
 
Dark sweet chocolate gelato with Patron XO Cafe, a tequila based coffee liquer, 40 percent alcohol, poured over the top. Makes my mouth water just thinking of it.
 
I actually like vanilla...........ice cream used as a topping for pies and other warm desserts.
 
sweetsubsarahh said:
It won't be cold for long.
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Perhaps not....until the ice cubes come out. And then more than just the belly is likely to be affected. But then we ought to cease and desist as this is a discussion about all things vanilla. And ice cubes where I like to see them is simply not vanilla at all.
 
Back to vanilla. A little more for the folks to know about this common flavoring.

Varieties of Pure Vanilla Extracts:

Mexican vanilla is made from Vanilla planifolia (now sometimes called fragrans) plant stock indigenous to Mexico. It is a very smooth, creamy, spicy vanilla. It's especially good in desserts made without heat or with a short cooking time. Dark chocolate, cream desserts, alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages, ethnic foods, wild game, poultry or meat, all benefit from Mexican vanilla.

Bourbon vanilla is a generic term for Vanilla planifolia, the vanilla most of us are familiar with as it's the most commonly used variety in extracts. Vanilla planifolia stock originated in Mexico, vanilla's birthplace, but cuttings were taken to other tropical countries beginning in the 1700s. In the 1800s, the French developed large plantations on Reunion, known then as the Ile de Bourbon, which is how the name Bourbon came into being. Although vanilla extract is high in alcohol content, it is not made from Bourbon whiskey.

Bourbon and Mexican vanillas have the familiar natural vanillin flavor that we associate with vanilla ice cream and other vanilla-flavored desserts and beverages. Use Bourbon vanilla in baked goods, ice cream and anything where a traditional vanilla flavor is desired.

Indonesian vanilla Depending on how Indonesian vanilla is cured and dried, it can be much like Bourbon vanilla, or it can have very distinctive differences. Some growers harvest their beans too early and use a short-term curing process that give the vanilla a more woody, phenolic flavor. As the early harvest keeps the beans from fully developing their flavor profile, it can be harsher and not as flavorful. It's important to note that not all Indonesian vanilla is harvested too early; premium grade Indonesian vanilla is excellent.

Frequently Indonesian vanilla is blended with Bourbon vanilla to create a signature flavor. Indonesian vanilla tends to hold up well in high heat, so anything slow-baked or exposed to high heat (i.e. cookies), benefits from Indonesian vanilla. Indonesian vanilla is also quite good with chocolate as its flavor overides the sweetness of chocolate and gives it a beneficial flavor-boost. Chocolate's popularity is due, in part, from the sparkle it receives from other flavors as it tends to be somewhat dull on its own.

Tahitian vanilla (Vanilla tahitensis) comes from planifolia stock that was taken to Tahiti. Somehow it mutated, possibly in the wild. It is now classified as a separate species as it's considerably different in appearance and flavor from Bourbon vanilla. It is similar, however, to Vanilla Pompona, a variety of vanilla rarely used commercially, but that has religious and cultural significance with the Totonacas of Mexico, the first cultivators of vanilla. They consider Pompona the queen of vanilla, and she is always planted in a prominent place wherever they grow vanilla.

Tahitian vanilla is sweeter and fruitier and has less natural vanillin than Bourbon and Mexican vanilla. Instead, it contains heliotropin (anis aldehyde), which is unique to its species. This gives it a more cherry-like, licorice, or raisiny taste. It has a very floral fragrance, the bean is fatter and moister than Bourbon vanilla, and contains fewer seeds inside its pod. Tahitian is especially nice in fruit compotes and desserts, as well as in sauces for poultry, seafood and wild game. My recommendation is to try both to see if you have a personal preference. If you still can't decide, combine the two flavors to create your own blend.

Because vanilla is a very labor-intensive agricultural product, vanilla is expensive. Tahitian vanilla has always been more expensive than Mexican and Bourbon vanillas. This is especially true now as it is less readily available.

***I never knew vanilla came from an orchid before this thread. Life on earth is a wondrous thing.
 
AllardChardon said:
Because vanilla is a very labor-intensive agricultural product, vanilla is expensive...
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*Snerk* Not if you buy it right. We went to TJ about 6 months ago and I bought a 1,000ml bottle of vanilla for $.36 US! (and it is GREAT vanilla too) :D
 
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