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[Jenny _S]

Hmmm

Vote For The Green Party!!

I'm still seriously thinking about Mary Carey, the porn queen. I sort of like her Orgasms for Gun platform

 

[BooMerengue]

Ahh...but my sweet Jenny! I am strongly anti-gun control. In the early days of this country- when we say all was good- every citizen had a gun. It should be a law now.

Anyway- here's something I thought newsworthy... Americans- stand up and DEMAND the truth!

SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. (Aug. 14) - A director of a cryonics company storing the body of Ted Williams disputed claims by a former employee that some of the baseball legend's DNA is missing and that his remains have been treated poorly.

The former employee of the Alcor Life Extension Foundation told Sports Illustrated that Williams' body was decapitated by surgeons in a procedure called neuroseparation, and both parts were suspended in liquid nitrogen.

The article, which was on newsstands Wednesday, also said Williams' head was shaved, drilled with holes and accidentally cracked 10 times.

Alcor won't confirm that it is preserving Williams' body, but that was revealed in court documents when his oldest daughter challenged the decision to take his body to the company.

Paula Lemler, the wife of Alcor President Jerry Lemler, said Wednesday her husband is undergoing chemotherapy treatment and could not comment, but she said Alcor doesn't take DNA or blood samples.

``If there's something we don't store and don't keep, there's no way we can lose it,'' added Carlos Mondragon, an Alcor director.

Mondragon noted that decapitation and shaving can be parts of the normal preservation process used by the company, and that the process normally causes microscopic cracks. He said that drilling holes in a head that is being preserved is also normal, but that it would be limited to one or two holes.

``We're disputing that any patient was negligently handled,'' Mondragon said.

Mondragon described Larry Johnson, one of Sports Illustrated's main sources and Alcor's former chief operating officer, as a disgruntled employee.

The Associated Press was unable to contact Johnson for comment despite several attempts Wednesday. Several numbers listed under the same name had been temporarily disconnected; others were for unrelated people.

Cheryl Spain, a spokeswoman for Sports Illustrated, said the magazine stood by its story.

The article - based on internal documents, e-mails, photographs and tape recordings supplied by Johnson - was another twist in the strange saga that began after Williams died July 5, 2002, and his body was taken by private jet to Alcor, in the Phoenix suburb of Scottsdale.

His son John Henry and daughter Claudia maintained they signed a handwritten pact with their father in 2000 agreeing that their bodies would be frozen.

On Wednesday, investigators in Florida were examining whether the note was forged, and if so, whether a crime was committed, said Ric Ridgway, chief assistant state attorney in Ocala, Fla.

Daughter Bobby-Jo Ferrell fought bitterly to recover the frozen body, saying Williams wanted to be cremated and have his ashes spread in the ocean near Key West, Fla. She claimed that her brother planned to sell their father's DNA.

The cryonics procedure cost $136,000, according to Sports Illustrated, which said Alcor claims it is still owed $111,000.

Buzz Hamon, a former director of the Ted Williams Museum in Hernando, Fla., has asked Arizona's attorney general to investigate Alcor and the condition of Williams' body.

Dianna Jennings, a spokeswoman for the state's attorney general, said the office cannot comment on ongoing investigations.

Paula Lemler characterized Johnson as a disgruntled employee who made the allegations to make money on a Web site that includes an open letter - purportedly from Johnson - soliciting donations. The AP could not confirm whether Johnson was actually connected to the site.

Early Wednesday, the site offered to give people who donated $20 access to a private site where they could view ``extremely disturbing'' photographs documenting Ted Williams' fate. The offer was gone later in the day.

08/14/03 06:09 EDT

Don't you just love it??
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[Native Alien]

Fox news reported this yesterday morning. What is the purpose in preserving his body anyway?

 

[Denim & Lace]

Accidently cracked

The article, which was on newsstands Wednesday, also said Williams' head was shaved, drilled with holes and accidentally cracked 10 times.


OK........ OK. I can see maybee crackin thatone accidentally once. amybe even twice....
NO way could they have accidentilly cracked it 10 times.....

THEY WENT BOWLING on MIDNIGHT SHIFT........ I wll lay odds 20-1 that is what happened!!!!!!!!!!!!

~chuckling~

Great Thread! Nice to see intelligent life form at Lit!

Sorry for the warped humor... grin. I just couldnt resist!

Question : when do I get to ditch the virgin name!>???

 

[Jenny _S]

Hmmm

Ahh...but my sweet Jenny! I am strongly anti-gun control. In the early days of this country- when we say all was good- every citizen had a gun. It should be a law now.

You mean you wouldn't go out an BUY a gun to turn in for an Orgasm? I would

Actually, they've run some gun turn in for bounty things here that have worked rather well - without gun anymore gun control than we have now.

 

[Native Alien]

The gun turn ins have worked well anywhere that they have tried them. The results are always good. So I don't understand why they aren't doing more. Of the gun turn in.

 

[Jenny _S]

Hmmmm

The gun turn ins have worked well anywhere that they have tried them. The results are always good. So I don't understand why they aren't doing more. Of the gun turn in.

Well... here they melt them down and make manhole covers out of them. Maybe they are oversupplied.

 

[Native Alien]

There are lots of things that could be done with them. They could melt them down and pour the smelt into sheets that could used to make playground equipment and fences for the playgrounds.

 

[BooMerengue]

Re: Hmmm

You mean you wouldn't go out an BUY a gun to turn in for an Orgasm? I would

Actually, they've run some gun turn in for bounty things here that have worked rather well - without gun anymore gun control than we have now.

A gun for an orgasm? That's not even a faor trade!! I can have orgasms nearly at a pin drop, but I have a hard time getting the guns I want. They're expensive!

And even if it was the law I would turn my home into RubyRidge or Waco before I gave up even a kid's BB gun!! (which, btw, we don't have because they're dangerous).

So... how's the weather where y'all are??? LOL

Manhole covers indeed!
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[BooMerengue]

Re: Accidently cracked

The article, which was on newsstands Wednesday, also said Williams' head was shaved, drilled with holes and accidentally cracked 10 times.


OK........ OK. I can see maybee crackin thatone accidentally once. amybe even twice....
NO way could they have accidentilly cracked it 10 times.....

THEY WENT BOWLING on MIDNIGHT SHIFT........ I wll lay odds 20-1 that is what happened!!!!!!!!!!!!

~chuckling~

Great Thread! Nice to see intelligent life form at Lit!

Sorry for the warped humor... grin. I just couldnt resist!

Question : when do I get to ditch the virgin name!>???

Denim!!!! Hellooooooooo stranger!! Last time I saw you you were messin w/ a player! Glad to see you survived! Don't be a stranger here... you won't be a virgin long! Just go to

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[Denim & Lace]

Hey Woman!!!

How you been???????? Yeah, why is it everyone else knew that but me?

Damn..... and I thought I was a better judge of character than that!

SOrry for the smart assed comment earleir ~L~... couldnt resist that one.

As for the orgasm for a gun.. Umm isnt that like sayin
Bang for a Bang?????????

 

[Native Alien]

Better a bang for a bang than a bang for a buck. Oops just realized what that one looks like. As a hunter, I know exactly what you mean Boo.

 

[Jenny _S]

Hmmmm

Better a bang for a bang than a bang for a buck. Oops just realized what that one looks like. As a hunter, I know exactly what you mean Boo.

They won't let me hunt.

They say I'm dangerous with anything more than a cap gun

 

[Guest]

Good afternoon ladies, how are all of you today?

 

[Native Alien]

There is a large black out going on in the Northeast tonight.

 

[Guest]

There is a large black out going on in the Northeast tonight.

I see that, it's on the news right now

 

[Mysticcal]

Hey all, just caught up on the thread and glad I dropped by. Hi NA..how have you been.

Somehow I got lucky and we are right on the edge of the blackout. Next town over has nothing but we are ok.

As for guns....have to agree, a gun for an orgasm, not a good trade. Nothing would make me trade mine in.

 

[Guest]

As for guns....have to agree, a gun for an orgasm, not a good trade. Nothing would make me trade mine in.

I don't have a gun at the moment, but have owned them and would again. Especially in this town lol

 

[Native Alien]

Hey Mysttical, good to see you and Nudecop, I left a little something for you on your thread.

If you gun owners don't mind, I will just keep my trusty crossbow handy.

 

[Guest]

Hey Mysttical, good to see you and Nudecop, I left a little something for you on your thread.

If you gun owners don't mind, I will just keep my trusty crossbow handy.

Hi Native, I saw it and responded Careful where you're pointing that crossbow lol

 

[Native Alien]

Not to worry there Nudecop, it has been a constant companion for many years.

 

[Mysticcal]

LOL! NA I don't mind, actually enjoy the crossbow myself.

Hi Nude....I enjoy guns actually, although don't get out to the range as much as I like anymore.

 

[Guest]

LOL! NA I don't mind, actually enjoy the crossbow myself.

Hi Nude....I enjoy guns actually, although don't get out to the range as much as I like anymore.

I haven't shot for a few years. Not many ranges around here. I used to have a nice .45 caliber Ruger. Then sold it and bought a Ross .357 Magnum with snub nosed barrel. But I used to work a part time job where I had to go to criminals' houses. Now that I don't do that, I sold the guns, though I should get a shot gun for the house.

 

[Native Alien]

A massive power blackout hit U.S. and Canadian cities Thursday, closing nuclear power plants in Ohio and New York state, driving workers in New York City and Toronto into the streets, and shutting subways in blistering heat.

New York Gov. George Pataki declared a state of emergency and said officials thought the cause of the blackout was "a possible transmission problem from Canada to the U.S." There was no sign of terrorism, officials in New York and Washington said.

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg said it was likely the blackout started in the Niagara Falls area and quickly spread.

"It was probably a natural occurrence which disrupted the power system up there and it apparently for reasons we don't know cascaded down through New York state over into Connecticut, as far south as New Jersey and as far west as Ohio.

A senior law enforcement official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the FBI had determined the blackout was a "natural occurrence" and there was no evidence of terrorism, and that the Homeland Security Department agreed.

In New York, the blackout affected subways, elevators and airports, including John F. Kennedy and LaGuardia airports. Thousands of people streamed into the streets of lower Manhattan in 90-degree heat.

In Toronto, Canada's largest city, workers also fled their buildings after the blackout hit shortly after 4 p.m. EDT. There also were widespread outages in Ottawa, the capital.

Traffic lights were out throughout downtown Cleveland and other major cities, creating havoc at the beginning of rush hour.

There were reports of outages in northern New Jersey and in several Vermont towns. In Connecticut, Metro-North Railroad service was knocked out. Lights flickered at state government buildings in Hartford.

Every prison in New York state reported a loss of power and switched to backup generators, said James Flateau, a spokesman for the state Department of Corrections.

In Albany, N.Y., several people were trapped in elevators in Empire State Plaza, but most had been freed by 5 p.m. People in New York City lined up 10 deep or more at pay phones, with cell phone service disrupted in some areas.

Mike Saltzman, a spokesman for New York Power Authority, a state-owned utility in White Plains, N.Y., said its two largest hydroelectric plants, including Niagara Falls and St. Lawrence-FDR, were operating. He said he did not know the status of 18 other smaller plants.

The blackouts rivaled those in the West on Aug. 11, 1996, when heat, sagging power lines and unusually high demand for electricity caused an outage that affected 4 million customers in nine states, one of the most severe outages in U.S. history.

A blackout in New York City in 1977 left some 9 million people without electricity for up to 25 hours.

"There is no evidence of any terrorism at this point," said Michael Sheehan, deputy commissioner for terrorism of New York City's Police Department. "We've talked to Washington and there are rumors, but none of them pans out."

Top New York police officers gathered at the department's operations center downtown where the focus was on the ramifications of the blackout rather than its cause.

"We're more concerned about getting the traffic lights running and making sure the city is OK than what caused it," a police spokesman said at the center.

In Cleveland, Olga Kropko, a University Hospitals labor and delivery nurse, said the hospital was using its back-up generators and had limited power. "Everyone is very hot because the air conditioning is off," she said. "Our laboring moms are suffering."

Police in Mansfield, Ohio, spread into the streets to keep traffic flowing. "A lot of officers are out there trying to make sure nobody gets hurt, to try to cut down on the accidents," said jail officer Randi Allen.

Bloomberg, on CNN, described New Yorkers as calm. He advised people to go home, open windows and drink liquids.

"The good news is that in New York City, while we have lost all the power, Con Ed's facilities have shut down properly, which we have programmed them to do," he said. "We don't know when Con Ed can power up again but clearly it will take some time."

Four nuclear power reactors _ two in New York and two in Ohio _ reported they were shut down because of the loss of off-site power, according to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission in Bethesda, Md. They were the two Indian Point reactors in New York state, and the Perry and Fermi nuclear power plants in Ohio.

The North American Electric Reliability Council, an industry group responsible for monitoring the integrity of the system, said the power outages were "widespread and appear to be centered around Lake Erie, although they are affecting the entire eastern interconnection."

"We do not know the cause at present but will continue to evaluate the situation," said Ellen Vancko, speaking for the council.

The Federal Aviation Administration instituted airport ground stops at Cleveland, Kennedy, LaGuardia and Newark, N.J. That meant planes from other cities heading to those four airports could not take off.

However, air traffic control facilities had backup power, and planes already in the air could land at those airports, said Laura Brown, speaking for the FAA.

At the Homeland Security Department, spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said federal officials were still gathering information and had not determined a cause.

The department "is working with state and local officials and the energy sector to determine the cause of the outage as well as what response measures may be needed to be taken," he said. He said everyone should "listen and heed the advice of the local authorities."

 

[Mysticcal]

Thanks NA, I didn't realize it was that widespread. Going to call some friends and see if they need a cool place to stay.