Women of Lit: A Safe Place To Share

[JennyCapricorn]

Warning if anyone was using this app

https://www.404media.co/women-dating-safety-app-tea-breached-users-ids-posted-to-4chan/

 

[redsnowbunny]

Like it or not, you’re the next AI girl, dry-ass elbow and all

unwittingly... (because the topic is quite serious) the dry-ass elbow made me laugh!!

Well, I can only think that, going out and actually spend time vis a vis with people, will get back its appeal.
( not that it ever lost it, for me, at least..)

 

[Zrosey]

This has always been one of those ideas that sits a little too comfortably in the back of my mind with how fast AI and deepfakes are ramping up, I think we’ve officially hit the tipping point -

The Dead Internet Theory

Eventually, if not already, we won’t be able to tell what’s real. Not people, not photos, not even “personal” stories. Everything will either be a tired remix of what was once new or a sneaky illusion built from code, pretending to be connection but really it’ll just be empty space and bot accounts.

So I’ve been putting my energy into the people who don’t edit themselves into whatever outdated aesthetic still clings to the Insta algorithm. Show me the crooked nose, the blurry and awkward angle, heck, show me your dry-ass elbow

Even then, AI will figure out how to fake that too. So maybe the only honest thing left is admitting we’re all just in denial. Accountability is gone, authenticity is manufactured. It doesn’t really matter if you’re resisting the shift, you’re already being rendered.

Like it or not, you’re the next AI girl, dry-ass elbow and all

Really....after this past handful of years, I'm wondering if the Internet was such a good idea after all....

 

[lil_jenni]

Really....after this past handful of years, I'm wondering if the Internet was such a good idea after all....

This got me thinking about something I have been noticing lately, although I am not sure it is a change to Lit or a change in myself.

I am not one to kink shame. I have plenty of kinks that I am sure others judge, so I try not to substitute my notions of sex and sexuality for what other people feel. But lately, especially in Fetish and Sexuality Central, some thread just feel, well... icky to me. I mean, there's always been misogyny and objectification there, but it seems to have ramped up a lot lately. Or maybe it's just me, and it's as bad as it has always been but I didn't notice because, well, for a long time, even when I know better because I have better in my life, there was a rush in being objectified. I mean, there still is, I guess, when I'm being a bit exhibitionist, whether in real life or verbally here. Regardless, I didn't mind it when it was not dehumanizing, because it could be a rush. And hell, I can objectify guys too. I mean, I would objectify the fuck out of Chris Hemsworth if such a glorious chance ever came my way.

But back to being serious, I think what bothers me here is how fucking dehumanizing many posts by men are. And maybe they always were as bad and its just hitting me more now. I think having daughters may be changing how I look at the world. So maybe that's it... momma bear instincts and such, and shit was as bad when I first started coming here and i just didn't notice how bad it was. Or do you all think it's worse too?

 

[Wouldlovetoo]

This got me thinking about something I have been noticing lately, although I am not sure it is a change to Lit or a change in myself.

I am not one to kink shame. I have plenty of kinks that I am sure others judge, so I try not to substitute my notions of sex and sexuality for what other people feel. But lately, especially in Fetish and Sexuality Central, some thread just feel, well... icky to me. I mean, there's always been misogyny and objectification there, but it seems to have ramped up a lot lately. Or maybe it's just me, and it's as bad as it has always been but I didn't notice because, well, for a long time, even when I know better because I have better in my life, there was a rush in being objectified. I mean, there still is, I guess, when I'm being a bit exhibitionist, whether in real life or verbally here. Regardless, I didn't mind it when it was not dehumanizing, because it could be a rush. And hell, I can objectify guys too. I mean, I would objectify the fuck out of Chris Hemsworth if such a glorious chance ever came my way.

But back to being serious, I think what bothers me here is how fucking dehumanizing many posts by men are. And maybe they always were as bad and its just hitting me more now. I think having daughters may be changing how I look at the world. So maybe that's it... momma bear instincts and such, and shit was as bad when I first started coming here and i just didn't notice how bad it was. Or do you all think it's worse too?

I was gone here from lit for a lot of years, back then I used a different name and had to get a new one, couldn't remember my old one. You are right the majority of men are creepy, but as I'm only here to have some fun, I'm choosy about the ones who DM me. If they're creepy or rude right off the bat I leave the conversation and basically block them from contacting me. It's my choice who I chat with and whom I don't. I have met some interesting and warm hearted people both men and women on here. I'm 74 and have learned not to worry or obsess over the ones who don't count in my book.

 

[stickygirl]

This got me thinking about something I have been noticing lately, although I am not sure it is a change to Lit or a change in myself.

I am not one to kink shame. I have plenty of kinks that I am sure others judge, so I try not to substitute my notions of sex and sexuality for what other people feel. But lately, especially in Fetish and Sexuality Central, some thread just feel, well... icky to me. I mean, there's always been misogyny and objectification there, but it seems to have ramped up a lot lately. Or maybe it's just me, and it's as bad as it has always been but I didn't notice because, well, for a long time, even when I know better because I have better in my life, there was a rush in being objectified. I mean, there still is, I guess, when I'm being a bit exhibitionist, whether in real life or verbally here. Regardless, I didn't mind it when it was not dehumanizing, because it could be a rush. And hell, I can objectify guys too. I mean, I would objectify the fuck out of Chris Hemsworth if such a glorious chance ever came my way.

But back to being serious, I think what bothers me here is how fucking dehumanizing many posts by men are. And maybe they always were as bad and its just hitting me more now. I think having daughters may be changing how I look at the world. So maybe that's it... momma bear instincts and such, and shit was as bad when I first started coming here and i just didn't notice how bad it was. Or do you all think it's worse too?

I agree, and it's not just Lit - it's systemic. It feels like men, particularly young men, want to push back at the progress being made in equality by becoming incels. Young men feel lost and the influence of ass*oles like Andrew Tate is seductive, offering attitudes and values that pander to their lack of confidence. When people with the biggest fists and strongest muscles turn against us, we have a problem.

Trans women have had to deal with chasers and fetishists for ever, but it has become much worse on Lit, as much as elsewhere. The assumption is that we all have dicks and that's all they ( men ) love about us, which brings a lil bit of sick to my mouth.

Anyhow I need to hide behind the sofa and watch my team, England's Women play in the Euro final against world cup champs, Spain. So many awesome role models for young women and girls in those teams

 

[Maximsdarling]

Just wanted to say hi! And love this thread. Ive been on and off this site for a couple of years. Its nice to see an all woman thread.

Also..re the above conversation.. when I've logged on the last year or so I avoid the forums if I want to feel sexy or stay in the mood. The stuff men write here about their partners, their views on women, the constant justification of any male behavior under "fetish", well it puts me off entirely. To me fetish can be anything consenting that adults enter into - and has an element of respect? I guess or at least seeing the other person as human? I genuinely think most of the copy /paste creeps on here think its interactive porn - an ai they are talking to and not a person. I start to wonder why I ever think about men seriously again.

And Im not gonna "not all men" here because even the ones who claim to like or respect women often will blindly defend really terrible stuff. And then I feel like the hysterical woman if I point anything out. Its been awhile since Ive met anyone worthwhile in real life or even on here. And not to be a downer, but I feel like we have a rapist president so the worst of the worst feel emboldended to say stuff they should be ashamed to think let alone say .I know the US is NOT the center of the world by the way- im simply speaking from my experience.

Like were they always this way and I didnt see it? Or is the current climate allowing people to be the worst? Like hatred of women runs deep (and yes I understand as a privledged white woman I am getting the least of it which is a scary thought. I cannot even begin to imagine what other women go through). I know Ive struggled with misogony stuff . Like a lot of hate its our culture. Its a lot to unpack- but once you see it? You cant unsee it.

Men have to want to unpack it . Even the most liberal men still have deeply unsettling beliefs about women. They seem totally fine with the status quo. Am I supposed to find any of that sexy? I mean I like sex. A lot. I have a high drive but Ive turned into a bit of a misanthrope bc I find those things hard to reconcile .


Anyway maybe this has all been discussed but- do any of you all feel this? Thanks for listening to my rant. And thank you for making this thread. It warmed my dead heart a bit.

 

[JennyCapricorn]

Has anyone else recently been so stressed in their lives that the fuck they desperately need would just break them into tears?

 

[Wouldlovetoo]

Has anyone else recently been so stressed in their lives that the fuck they desperately need would just break them into tears?

Me, my daughter has cancer and just started treatment, yes, yes masturbating with a friend online reduced me to tears. And they probably won't be my last years over this.

 

[cheekygirl75]

Me, my daughter has cancer and just started treatment, yes, yes masturbating with a friend online reduced me to tears. And they probably won't be my last years over this.

 

[Wouldlovetoo]

Thank you, sometimes everyone needs one.

 

[JennyCapricorn]

Thank you, sometimes everyone needs one.

All the hugs.

 

[JennyCapricorn]

Hubby took a super cute picture of me this morning. Thought about sharing here. Remembered last week and thought “fuck those guys.”

 

[Wouldlovetoo]

All the hugs.

Thank you so much.

 

[EmmAgain]

Me, my daughter has cancer and just started treatment, yes, yes masturbating with a friend online reduced me to tears. And they probably won't be my last years over this.

I’m so sorry. Nobody deserves to walk a road like that. Do whatever it takes to get yourself and your daughter through this patch of Hell in one piece.

A big hug from a random person who cares.

 

[Wouldlovetoo]

I’m so sorry. Nobody deserves to walk a road like that. Do whatever it takes to get yourself and your daughter through this patch of Hell in one piece.

A big hug from a random person who cares.

Thank you, she's started treatment and they are positive they'll be able to eradicate the mass. I would not wish this on my worst enemies.

 

[genzsub]

Thank you, she's started treatment and they are positive they'll be able to eradicate the mass. I would not wish this on my worst enemies.

I don't have kids and can only imagine how frightening that must be. I don't know if the following will be uplifting, but when I was in grade school and middle school, I lived in Memphis, TN, where St. Jude's Children's Hospital is. One of my classmates was out every Friday to go to St. Jude's because he had Leukemia. He has now been in remission for ten years, got married a couple of years ago, and is now expecting his first child.

 

[Lilycece]

Hi y’all
Just joined

 

[MiaBabe23]

Me, my daughter has cancer and just started treatment, yes, yes masturbating with a friend online reduced me to tears. And they probably won't be my last years over this.

I hope the treatment helps. Stay strong

 

[Wouldlovetoo]

I don't have kids and can only imagine how frightening that must be. I don't know if the following will be uplifting, but when I was in grade school and middle school, I lived in Memphis, TN, where St. Jude's Children's Hospital is. One of my classmates was out every Friday to go to St. Jude's because he had Leukemia. He has now been in remission for ten years, got married a couple of years ago, and is now expecting his first child.

That is great, I'm glad he's making it, nowadays cancer can be beaten back, especially if they catch it in time. Thank you there is always hope.

 

[InCNCestBangPie]

From the parts of my heart that avoided the abyss,
I'm glad to see this thread still exists.
Offering safety & fellowship is all that I wanted,
Because a path to peaceful common ground should never be shunted.
I hope each of you knows that you're beautifully crafted,
And that's how you know foolish, rude talk is simply unfounded.
Resilient, unashamed, & spunky — this thread has done more than survived,
But with input from all of you, Women of Lit has dared to thrive.

 

[stickygirl]

I found a video today and wondered where to post the link, because the lecture covers a range of topics from LGBT to Women's rights and how these things are being eroded. The speaker is Sandi Tosvig, who comes from Denmark but is a well known entertainer in the UK. I found it difficult to pause - she speaks so well.

Turing Lecture Kings College, Cambridge

 

[stickygirl]

 

[JennyCapricorn]

Question: I now have pretty definitive proof that someone I only ever see in the women’s spaces on Lit Chat is using stolen influencer photos. The whole profile reads like wish fulfillment so I’m not 100% that this is catfishing… it could be some woman’s fantasy account… but they just started making noises about how they too opened their relationship (in the most FABULOUS and EXTRAVAGANT way of course) and hinting that we lived close enough to meet.

How aggressively do I call this out?

 

[FrenchLopBunny]

Do you think they truly know where you live? Because that is scary. I mean, surely they don’t know your address, but I have heard of that happening. If it was me, I would at least report it to the Mods. If you decide to call them out, be conscious of the chat and forum rules. You don’t need to get yourself banned.

<Concerned bunny face>